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Birth Registered - No first name

  • 18-09-2012 7:13pm
    #1
    MrMatisse
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    Hi All,

    Is there any reason why a child's birth would have been registered at the start of the 20th century, without the child getting a first name? The person subsequently appearing to use a different surname to the one they were registered without any legal change appearing to have taken place?

    Many thanks !!


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  • #2
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,709 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Usually, when you see a child down as Female Murphy (or whatever), it means the child did not survive more than a couple of days, but their birth still had to be registered.

    In your instance, would it be possible that the baby was adopted informally from birth and the birth mother didn't name the child?

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #3
    Elizabetha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Elizabetha


    One of my ancestors was baptised "female" She lived to be 99 and, of course, had a name, maybe they just couldnt agree on a name at time of baptism, very unusual though I must admit!


  • #4
    shanew
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    I think you need a name for baptism isn't that part of the wording of the blessing ?

    - as far as I know it's just civil birth records that can show Male/Female and no firstname



    Shane


  • #5
    MrMatisse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭MrMatisse


    pinkypinky wrote: »
    Usually, when you see a child down as Female Murphy (or whatever), it means the child did not survive more than a couple of days, but their birth still had to be registered.

    In your instance, would it be possible that the baby was adopted informally from birth and the birth mother didn't name the child?

    Thats my theory too


  • #6
    Elizabetha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Elizabetha


    Shane, Youre spot on, it was a birth reg I was looking at, God do I feel blonde right now!


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  • #7
    pedroeibar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    Elizabetha wrote: »
    Shane, Youre spot on, it was a birth reg I was looking at, God do I feel blonde right now!
    That's not fair ;-p My blond has an hons degree & postgrad. ;-)


  • #8
    rpe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 ✭rpe


    I have seen this a few times. Usually if the forenames' column is left blank there will be an amendment in the last column of the cert giving the child's first name, the date it was given and registrar's name. I've only seen this on the older style A3 birth certs never on the newer A4 certs.


  • #9
    Jellybaby1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    I have a copy of my grandfather's birth cert. On the front there is no name, just 'male' but there was another form on the back of it and his name is on that.


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