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ARW off to tacke Somali Pirates ?

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  • 18-09-2012 5:57pm
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    cruasder777
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    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/armys-elite-to-take-on-somali-pirates-in-aden-3233271.html



    THE Army's elite special forces unit, the Ranger Wing, has been mobilised for its toughest mission yet – tackling Somali pirates in the Indian Ocean.

    Such is the international reputation of the Ranger Wing that the EU made a formal request to the Government to provide the troops several months ago.

    The unit has been secretly training for the mission all year, working closely with the Navy and Air Corps.



    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0918/defence-forces-rangers.html



    The Defence Forces has dismissed as "pure speculation" reports that around 30 members of the elite Army Ranger Wing are to be deployed to tackle Somali pirates in the Indian Ocean.


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    Zambia
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    I read this
    However, Commandant Denis Hanly said the mission posed huge logistical and operational challenges.

    And I laughed

    Its 30 troops .... 30 f**king troops. God forbid they have to consider moving 300.

    FFS may as well just come out and say "International missions nah its all just to hard"


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    amurph0
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    Zambia wrote: »
    I read this



    And I laughed

    Its 30 troops .... 30 f**king troops. God forbid they have to consider moving 300.

    FFS may as well just come out and say "International missions nah its all just to hard"

    You realize it would probably take more then two of our ships to house 30 rangers? So it's more like deploying nearly 120 out at sea if you include crew members, plus fuel and ammunition resupplies for the ships.

    Long term deployments at sea are not as easy as deployments on land.


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    Storm 10
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    amurph0 wrote: »
    You realize it would probably take more then two of our ships to house 30 rangers? So it's more like deploying nearly 120 out at sea if you include crew members, plus fuel and ammunition resupplies for the ships.

    Long term deployments at sea are not as easy as deployments on land.

    Was it not to put the ARW on an EU Naval Force (EU NAVFOR) Vessel?

    "It is understood that the contingent will involve up to 30 Rangers, including three six-man specialist assault teams, who will be based in a "friendly" country for the duration of a four- to six-month deployment."


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    amurph0
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    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Was it not to put the ARW on an EU Naval Force (EU NAVFOR) Vessel?

    "It is understood that the contingent will involve up to 30 Rangers, including three six-man specialist assault teams, who will be based in a "friendly" country for the duration of a four- to six-month deployment."

    From what I've been told P61 (which will be commissioned next year) will be the ship that will take the rangers down on patrols around Somalia.


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    Zambia
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    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Was it not to put the ARW on an EU Naval Force (EU NAVFOR) Vessel?

    "It is understood that the contingent will involve up to 30 Rangers, including three six-man specialist assault teams, who will be based in a "friendly" country for the duration of a four- to six-month deployment."
    This was my reading off it as well.


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    Peregrine
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    amurph0 wrote: »
    From what I've been told P61 (which will be commissioned next year) will be the ship that will take the rangers down on patrols around Somalia.

    Irish vessel?? :confused:
    Now I'm curious. Have they done anything like this in the past?


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    amurph0
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    Nimrod 7 wrote: »
    Irish vessel?? :confused:
    Now I'm curious. Have they done anything like this in the past?

    No. It's all rumour and hearsay. Just like the article at the start of the thread.


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    mattjack
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    Do we not have a 'Triple lock' system to be satisfied before any Irish soldiers are ever deployed ? Govt, UN and president/dail ? I think...


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    Peregrine
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    amurph0 wrote: »
    No. It's all rumour and hearsay. Just like the article at the start of the thread.

    Sorry, I meant the Naval Service :o


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    ricky_spanish
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    why all the secrecy and hype ? havent 43 commando been doing this for years now ... just seems a bit over the top , faces blacked out and all that


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    Morpheus
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    43 commando are not the SAS.

    ARW are the irish equivelant of the SAS.

    They take part in counter terrorist and intel gathering exercises both here and overseas and therefore it makes sense that their faces aren't plastered all over the media or in the public domain.


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    neilled
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    mattjack wrote: »
    Do we not have a 'Triple lock' system to be satisfied before any Irish soldiers are ever deployed ? Govt, UN and president/dail ? I think...

    The triple lock is releveant for deployments above a certain size....
    Triple lock consists of

    UNSC Approval
    Government Approval
    Approval by the majority of the Dail


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    Zambia
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    ricky_spanish wrote: »
    why all the secrecy and hype ? havent 43 commando been doing this for years now ... just seems a bit over the top , faces blacked out and all that
    Word is they are a pack of Ugly B******

    Best not scare children etc


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    ricky_spanish
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    @morpheus
    ok fair enough makes sense
    but its a bit much comparing the ARW with the SAS dont you think ..
    of course 43 commando are not the SAS .. but as much as theyd like neither are the ARW


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    Praetorian Saighdiuir
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    ricky_spanish wrote: »
    @morpheus
    ok fair enough makes sense
    but its a bit much comparing the ARW with the SAS dont you think ..
    of course 43 commando are not the SAS .. but as much as theyd like neither are the ARW


    There was no comparison between the two. Morpheus was stating that the ARW are Ireland's equivalent of the SAS, nothing more so don't be interpreting it in your own way in a subtle effort to play down the units abilities.


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