UPC Broadband

sunrise91

I was told that if you buy broadband from UPC you get standard tv channels with it (RTE, TV3, etc), just wondering if this is true?

mark17j

yep you get the standard pipe via the wall box

cojomo2

mark17j wrote: »

yep you get the standard pipe via the wall box

are you sure?

I just rang them, asked for the cheapest pack with basic tv and basic broadband. 65.50 i was quoted.

listermint

No its not true, you would need a UPC tv box to decrypt the cabled signal from the wall box. In order to get the UPC tv box you must have a TV package as UPC own the receivers.

cojomo2

listermint wrote: »

No its not true, you would need a UPC tv box to decrypt the cabled signal from the wall box. In order to get the UPC tv box you must have a TV package as UPC own the receivers.

you dont need a upc box to decode the basic channels. If you take the box out of the equation and just plug the cable into the back of your tv you still get the basic 14 or so Irish and uk channels.

briggy

Could you not just get UPC broadband on it's own and use a Saorview Combo box with the Freesat channels on it if you just wanted the basic channels?

listermint

cojomo2 wrote: »

you dont need a upc box to decode the basic channels. If you take the box out of the equation and just plug the cable into the back of your tv you still get the basic 14 or so Irish and uk channels.

You sure about this ? have you tried it ?

cojomo2

listermint wrote: »

You sure about this ? have you tried it ?

yep sure, and have tried it.

MarkR

listermint wrote: »

You sure about this ? have you tried it ?

Me two. F-type splitter to the rf input of your tv.

cojomo2

MarkR wrote: »

Me two. F-type splitter to the rf input of your tv.

Are you talking about getting the basic channels while just paying for bb?

I wasn't- all I was saying is that you dont need the box to decode the basic 14 channels.

So if you are a BB only customer, you will still receive the basic tv channels?

beglee

cojomo2 wrote: »

Are you talking about getting the basic channels while just paying for bb?

I wasn't- all I was saying is that you dont need the box to decode the basic 14 channels.

So if you are a BB only customer, you will still receive the basic tv channels?

But that is just the analog signal, which is due to be turned off in the very near future

So you'd at least need a saorview tv or box to get any channels once the switch is made

Mountjoy Mugger

You are misinformed. Analogue signal is not being turned off on UPC's network. See here.

Knasher

AFAIK it depends on where you live. The old NTL network (before it was bought by UPC) provided a basic analogue service which included the RTE channels and some english ones, whereas the old Chorus network (before it was bought aswell) just has the RTE channels on analogue. Perhaps on the NTL network they provide that channels for free on digital as well, but I can confirm the don't on the chorus part.

They will most likely stop broadcasting the analogue signal when the switchover happens.
Edit: Mountjoy Mugger seems more accurate.

beglee

oh right, did not know that *tips hat*

lucernarian

The only place (more or less) that offers no extra channels beyond the basic 4 on analogue is Cork. You need a set top box for everything there. Otherwise pretty much all piped/cable TV offers at least 12 to 17 analogue channels which are picked up directly by plugging in the TV.

To_be_confirmed

To_be_confirmed wrote: »

The only place (more or less) that offers no extra channels beyond the basic 4 on analogue is Cork. You need a set top box for everything there. Otherwise pretty much all piped/cable TV offers at least 12 to 17 analogue channels which are picked up directly by plugging in the TV.

Indeed. I'm in D15, and get 16 channels by just plugging cable in TV and letting it scan for channels. Very handy as a back up when Sky goes down.

sunrise91

Ok so just to clarify, if I JUST get broadband from UPC I will also get standard channels that will not be affected when the switchover happens?

Col200sx

sunrise91 wrote: »

Ok so just to clarify, if I JUST get broadband from UPC I will also get standard channels that will not be affected when the switchover happens?

I currently only have broadband only through UPC, and I get analogue channels free

But what happens on October 24th, I can't answer that.

sunrise91

sunrise91 wrote: »

Ok so just to clarify, if I JUST get broadband from UPC I will also get standard channels that will not be affected when the switchover happens?

Yes.

Although it will work out cheaper if you take out phone with them too, as then you won't have to pay the standalone fee for broadband!

sunrise91

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes.

Although it will work out cheaper if you take out phone with them too, as then you won't have to pay the standalone fee for broadband!

Super!! Oh the joys of being a student :rolleyes:

cojomo2

so do broadband and tv come into the house on the same cable? We have a cable coming into the house but nothing happens when we connect to our tv, as the cable is disconnected at the box on/near the roof outside...obviously I could get a ladder and reconnect the cable but that would be illegal.

So, if I order broadband, upc will reconnect this cable outside, and then plug this into one of their modems inside the house? So what then, unplug from modem into a 2 way splitter and then get some more cable and connect to both modem and tv, is that it?

Knasher

cojomo2 wrote: »

So, if I order broadband, upc will reconnect this cable outside, and then plug this into one of their modems inside the house? So what then, unplug from modem into a 2 way splitter and then get some more cable and connect to both modem and tv, is that it?

Yep, that's it.

mrbrown69

sunrise91 wrote: »

Ok so just to clarify, if I JUST get broadband from UPC I will also get standard channels that will not be affected when the switchover happens?

The switchover only affects aerial analogue if I'm correct

bk

mrbrown69 wrote: »

The switchover only affects aerial analogue if I'm correct

That is correct. Has no effect on UPC analgoue TV service.

loki7777

What kind of splitter do i need? And do i really need it if i have upc box in wall with 2 connectors? Both female?I think that http://kopier.pl/zdiecia/antena/wtyki/2.jpg should do if the second one is fine if not i can add it to splitter.


I think i can buy http://www.4cabling.com.au/products/2-Way-Splitter-F-type-5%252d2400MHz-All-Ports-Power-Pass.html and f type female-femal connection(because you need to connect it somehow:) + cable? And i can split it at the box not at the modem?
Or something like that http://www.altron.com.pl/Allegro/PrzejFwt-2xgn.jpg and it should be sorted out - from modem to box and tv.

jsn.peters

If you just plug into back of tv how do you change channels ? are the stations tuned into the tv & you use tv remote ?

loki7777

I think that is the way it works. I will go into the town in few minutes and try to buy all that i check it.

jsn.peters

jsn.peters wrote: »

If you just plug into back of tv how do you change channels ? are the stations tuned into the tv & you use tv remote ?

Yes. That's generally how its done. The TV will pick up a channel and store it on Ch 1, then find another channel and store it on Ch 2 and up until all possible channels are found.

D'Peoples Voice

listermint wrote: »

No its not true, you would need a UPC tv box to decrypt the cabled signal from the wall box. In order to get the UPC tv box you must have a TV package as UPC own the receivers.

Well I know from a friend out in Balbriggan that has UPC television,
this is the case for getting the 16 or so analogue on a second television.
But yet I know from friends in no fewer than 4 other places in D6, D8, D16 and D20 this is not the case on their second television.

But here is the thing, UPC digital television in Balbriggan has a slightly different television station line-up to those in D6, D8, D16 and D20.

mullallovic

I'm in D5 and get 17 channels from pluging straight into Tv.

You need to split the lead that goes into the router. The second port on the UPC box on the wall does not have same signal. (I was able to tune in 3 channels at very bad quality from this port)

Third_Echelon

What are the 17 analogue channels that are available by default?

Is setanta Ireland one of them?

mullallovic

Third_Echelon wrote: »

What are the 17 analogue channels that are available by default?

Is setanta Ireland one of them?

I get these..... Again in D5.
Rte 1
Rte 2
Bbc1 NI
BBC2
Utv
Channel 4
Sky 1
Discovery
Nick
Sky news
MTV
Tv3
3e
Tg4
Sky living
E4
Setanta Ireland

Col200sx

You get a few less in Galway through UPC's analogue, iirc it's:

RTE 1
RTE 2
BBC1 NI
BBC2
UTV
Channel 4
Sky News
TV3
3e
TG4
Setanta Ireland

It did have more, but 5/6 disappeared earlier this year.

Preset No.3

Could someone take a couple of pictures and post them here just to show what to do. Getting my 150meg tomorrow. Hello UPC, goodbye imagine!

patrickowens1

So is this still working post-switchover??? Thanks!

mullallovic

still works for me - have the 17 channels from previous post.

there was a upc message scrolling across before the switchover that this service wouldnt be affected and then trying to get you to go digital.

its all good - i get the 17 channels I would watch most and its free with UPC broadband - for the moment anyway...

Col200sx

Yep, working perfectly as before. Nothing different after the analogue cut-off

patrickowens1

Cheers folks - might as well get the 40 quid UPC broadband so and see...

Might still end up stumping up the hundred quid for the ariva 250 combo box for the free to air and saorview though. Might be a shame to waste the HD telly!

Thanks again!

ajarms86

loki7777 wrote: »

I think that is the way it works. I will go into the town in few minutes and try to buy all that i check it.

So just checking but did the small connector in your last post work? I am trying to set up the same (BB + free basic channels) if I connect the tv it works and if I connect the internet box seperately it works but not sure what kind of "double adaptor" can I use?

loki7777

ajarms86 wrote: »

So just checking but did the small connector in your last post work? I am trying to set up the same (BB + free basic channels) if I connect the tv it works and if I connect the internet box seperately it works but not sure what kind of "double adaptor" can I use?

I didn't get it here. But if You are talking about the 2way splitter(any of them will do) it works perfect:)

D'Peoples Voice

ajarms86 wrote: »

So just checking but did the small connector in your last post work? I am trying to set up the same (BB + free basic channels) if I connect the tv it works and if I connect the internet box seperately it works but not sure what kind of "double adaptor" can I use?

Back in the days of Cablelink, you would have a splitter on the wall, one connection for Tv, the other connection was for FM radio - for those that might have a stereo that needed a coxial connection on the back to get a decent reception

So you take off that splitter and replace it with a splitter that has two or more TV feeds - this or this.
Straight-forward coax cable from one feed to modem, and likewise a coax cable from splitter to TV decoder for digital UPC or straight to TV if you want analogue UPC.

Alun

D'Peoples Voice wrote: »

So you take off that splitter and replace it with a splitter that has two or more TV feeds - this or this.

I don't know about anyone else but I got one of those in the box with the cables etc. when I switched to UPC.