ICT Coordinator

doc_17

Folks, just wondering in your school (second level) is ICT coordinator a post? If so A or B? And if not who does it?

seavill

A post

bdoo

A post here too- part of one

doc_17

Should have said in OP that it used to be a B post (or part of one) here as well until the teacher retired. Now I do it. I got one class less last year but nothinh this year. I have no post. This BS reported today in Sindo made me think about all the things they are already getting of teachers for nothing

flatbackfour

doc_17 wrote: »

Should have said in OP that it used to be a B post (or part of one) here as well until the teacher retired. Now I do it. I got one class less last year but nothinh this year. I have no post. This BS reported today in Sindo made me think about all the things they are already getting of teachers for nothing

This kind of free work really has to stop.

We are being taken for complete mugs.

rainbowtrout

It isn't a post in my school. It should be but we don't even have enough A posts to cover year head positions let alone IT.

One of the teachers who doesn't have a post does all the IT work.

bdoo

flatbackfour wrote: »

doc_17 wrote: »

Should have said in OP that it used to be a B post (or part of one) here as well until the teacher retired. Now I do it. I got one class less last year but nothinh this year. I have no post. This BS reported today in Sindo made me think about all the things they are already getting of teachers for nothing

This kind of free work really has to stop.

We are being taken for complete mugs.

I can see it from both sides. There is a genuine need for this work.

On the other hand there is no appreciation of it from anyone. At least the journalists can say they don't know, our colleagues want it done so that schools run better, once someone else does it that is.

Miss Lockhart

It's not a post in our school. We have non post holders as Year Heads so no hope of getting IT as a post.

RealJohn

Part of a post in our place (not sure if he has an A post or a B post to be honest) but it should definitely be a post in itself in any half-way big school these days.

doc_17

There's talk of us getting another coordinators post as we are currently below the threshold. So if there is LCA ( none in ours) LCVP, adult ed or TY then you can apply if nobody has that post in your school. So I'm thinking if somebody gets an A post and their post is coordinating LCVP in my schook then damned if I'm coordinating ICT for nothing.

Chilli Con Kearney

Are you saying that there is no ICT post but there is an LCVP post?! That is crazy stuff.

With the levels of technology that is required to run a school today, the responsibilities for somebody in this position are growing every year:broadband connection, laptops, desktops, printers, data projectors, interactive whiteboards, student account management, cloud computing, eportal, sharepoint and loads of others that I cannot think of right now.

It should probably be an A post, especially for somebody carrying out the function in a school of over 400 pupils and 25-30 staff. There are dedicated professional people who do this job in the private sector in operations similar to schools of that size.

If you are not even getting a B post, then you are being taken for a ride my friend. Another case of papering over the cracks and getting by, just. The sooner people realise that this is what is going on in schools, along with schools now almost relying on dips to take timetable space now, non-permanent teachers doing timetabled classes after schools, the extra-curricular sport can being carried by a small few, the better.

You really need to sort this.

bdoo

doc_17 wrote: »

There's talk of us getting another coordinators post as we are currently below the threshold. So if there is LCA ( none in ours) LCVP, adult ed or TY then you can apply if nobody has that post in your school. So I'm thinking if somebody gets an A post and their post is coordinating LCVP in my schook then damned if I'm coordinating ICT for nothing.

Go for the post u might get it

doc_17

Chilli Con Kearney wrote: »

Are you saying that there is no ICT post but there is an LCVP post?! That is crazy stuff.

With the levels of technology that is required to run a school today, the responsibilities for somebody in this position are growing every year:broadband connection, laptops, desktops, printers, data projectors, interactive whiteboards, student account management, cloud computing, eportal, sharepoint and loads of others that I cannot think of right now.

It should probably be an A post, especially for somebody carrying out the function in a school of over 400 pupils and 25-30 staff. There are dedicated professional people who do this job in the private sector in operations similar to schools of that size.

If you are not even getting a B post, then you are being taken for a ride my friend. Another case of papering over the cracks and getting by, just. The sooner people realise that this is what is going on in schools, along with schools now almost relying on dips to take timetable space now, non-permanent teachers doing timetabled classes after schools, the extra-curricular sport can being carried by a small few, the better.

You really need to sort this.

No there is no post for LCVP here arm but we have TY and LCVP in the school. Where schools run these programs and do not have a coordinator, and if they are at threshold then they can apply for a program coordinator to be appointed.

I wouldn't say I'd have a hope in hell of getting the post if it came up. In which case I'd probably at that point relinquish the ICT job. It's a lo of hassle. People come to you with ridiculous requests!

bdoo

doc_17 wrote: »

Chilli Con Kearney wrote: »

Are you saying that there is no ICT post but there is an LCVP post?! That is crazy stuff.

With the levels of technology that is required to run a school today, the responsibilities for somebody in this position are growing every year:broadband connection, laptops, desktops, printers, data projectors, interactive whiteboards, student account management, cloud computing, eportal, sharepoint and loads of others that I cannot think of right now.

It should probably be an A post, especially for somebody carrying out the function in a school of over 400 pupils and 25-30 staff. There are dedicated professional people who do this job in the private sector in operations similar to schools of that size.

If you are not even getting a B post, then you are being taken for a ride my friend. Another case of papering over the cracks and getting by, just. The sooner people realise that this is what is going on in schools, along with schools now almost relying on dips to take timetable space now, non-permanent teachers doing timetabled classes after schools, the extra-curricular sport can being carried by a small few, the better.

You really need to sort this.

No there is no post for LCVP here arm but we have TY and LCVP in the school. Where schools run these programs and do not have a coordinator, and if they are at threshold then they can apply for a program coordinator to be appointed.

I wouldn't say I'd have a hope in hell of getting the post if it came up. In which case I'd probably at that point relinquish the ICT job. It's a lo of hassle. People come to you with ridiculous requests!

The programme coordinator post can be at assistant principal or special duties level depending on the numbers in the programmes.

I think it's at AP level if there are over 100. As numbers increase teaching hours are reduced down to between 16 - 20 hours.

If you have been bursting your balls doing work for years you should go into the interview and tell them. Are you in VEC of voluntary sector?

doc_17

Yeah but if the post is for program coordinator then you'd have to think the people coordinating TY and LCVP would feel they should get it. Just for the record, I'm not, hopefully, whinging. I was just genuinely curious about this role in other schools.

bdoo

doc_17 wrote: »

Yeah but if the post is for program coordinator then you'd have to think the people coordinating TY and LCVP would feel they should get it. Just for the record, I'm not, hopefully, whinging. I was just genuinely curious about this role in other schools.

Yea, feeling you should get a job is one thing. There are plenty of people I know who felt they should have gotten posts over the last year - mainly based on time served.

go for it anyway, there's more to the job than Ty and lcvp and there are more skills required than being able to organise work experience and visits out, an a post is an a post,