why Brian Cody's outburst was not highlighted more by the media

footballdoc

:eek:just wanted to ask why brian codys outburst was not highlighted more by the media, where RTE caught a clip of the through Cody and his Ignorience when it was clear for all to see him verbally abuse Cunningham on the side line during last week hurling final, if this was Davy fitz, or any other Manager it would of been all over the media. why is it that he is untouchable. in my opinion he is one of the most luckest managers out there as that kilkenny team has picked its self over the last 13 or 14 years.
i would like to see him go to a weaker county (Dublin / Waterford ) and bring back an all-ireland then he would be proven as a great manager. its all a bit like Sir Alex Ferguson. they wouldnt last 2 years else where.

adrian522

Wow.

porterbelly

Because Cody has the media wrapped around his finger

The same cannot be said of Galway when Canning makes an innocuous comments which was blown out of complete proportion and reported in the back page of every newspaper and they're still reporting about it in the Sunday papers today

Lu Tze

footballdoc wrote: »

:eek:just wanted to ask why brian codys outburst was not highlighted more by the media, where RTE caught a clip of the through Cody and his Ignorience when it was clear for all to see him verbally abuse Cunningham on the side line during last week hurling final, if this was Davy fitz, or any other Manager it would of been all over the media. why is it that he is untouchable. in my opinion he is one of the most luckest managers out there as that kilkenny team has picked its self over the last 13 or 14 years.
i would like to see him go to a weaker county (Dublin / Waterford ) and bring back an all-ireland then he would be proven as a great manager. its all a bit like Sir Alex Ferguson. they wouldnt last 2 years else where.

Ah sure he was just whispering sweet nothings in his ear...

padd b1975

There is a whiff of double standards about it when you factor in the coverage of Joe Canning's comments.

Fireball07

footballdoc wrote: »

:eek:just wanted to ask why brian codys outburst was not highlighted more by the media, where RTE caught a clip of the through Cody and his Ignorience when it was clear for all to see him verbally abuse Cunningham on the side line during last week hurling final, if this was Davy fitz, or any other Manager it would of been all over the media. why is it that he is untouchable. in my opinion he is one of the most luckest managers out there as that kilkenny team has picked its self over the last 13 or 14 years.
i would like to see him go to a weaker county (Dublin / Waterford ) and bring back an all-ireland then he would be proven as a great manager. its all a bit like Sir Alex Ferguson. they wouldnt last 2 years else where.

I dunno like...do we actually know whether he was verbally abusing him? He was shouting something, but we don't know what was actually said. And it seemed fairly harmless anyway, as you say Davy Fitz is always screaming stuff...it's not always picked up, only if it's particularly foul-mouthed. Other managers are the same.

The rest of what you say is just wrong though, Cody doesn't have to prove himself to anyone. Why would you leave your home county, after you've made them the best team in the country to go manage someone else?? It doesn't make sense.


And Alex Ferguson was the last manager to win the league in Scotland outside of Rangers/Celtic, not to mention winning a Cup Winners Cup, which is extremely impressive.

eire 2012

Maybe because the media along with everybody else knew it was a disgusting dive and completely wrong decision.To anyone that posts on this topic imagine that the same happened your own county and you might not be so quick to slate Brian Cody.

coolisin

Well Anthony Cunningham wasn't exactly blameless.
He was giving as good as he got, this happens all the time between managers.

Only the two management teams know what was said, no media to hear it, joe canning said stuff in a interview to be blown out of proportion.

When both managers where asked about it they shrugged it off as a heat of the moment thing.

Cody got angry as the ref didn't award a blatant free killennys way and then awards the free to Galway once a man is touched in the back.

No need for a deal to be made out of it, and god I would love to see him take the managers job in Dublin hurling, because I don't think he's lucky, lucky wouldn't get you so many AI finals one yeah but not the amount he has.

Dietsquirt

its all a bit like Sir Alex Ferguson. they wouldnt last 2 years else where.[/QUOTE]

I'm not a Man U fan, but Ferguson is a very good manager.

ArmaniJeanss

Dietsquirt wrote: »

I'm not a Man U fan, but Ferguson is a very good manager.

In fairness I think the OP is bang on the money when he says Alex Ferguson wouldn't win an All-Ireland with Dublin or Waterford.

Hitchens

Brian Cody has to be the most astute hurling manager since the big bang!

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

It got the attention it deserved to be perfectly honest..

Cryogen

Cody does not believe in sportsmanship, he believes in winning at all costs hence why Kilkenny are considered by many as the dirtiest team,he is a bad loser

tatoo

Hitchens wrote: »

Brian Cody has to be the most astute hurling manager since the big bang!

...good in theory

tatoo

footballdoc wrote: »

:eek:just wanted to ask why brian codys outburst was not highlighted more by the media, where RTE caught a clip of the through Cody and his Ignorience when it was clear for all to see him verbally abuse Cunningham on the side line during last week hurling final, if this was Davy fitz, or any other Manager it would of been all over the media. why is it that he is untouchable.

A lot of them may be afraid of him refusing interviews with them or their station/paper if the portray him negatively - he fairly put the starts on poor Marty a couple of years back , plus a few are hoping to ghostwrite a book or two with him.

Martin567

Cryogen wrote: »

Cody does not believe in sportsmanship, he believes in winning at all costs hence why Kilkenny are considered by many as the dirtiest team,he is a bad loser

Yes, I'm aware of those people. One-eyed, bitter begrudgers is what I would call them.

goose2005

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

In fairness I think the OP is bang on the money when he says Alex Ferguson wouldn't win an All-Ireland with Dublin or Waterford.

With Tipp he might have a chance.

Mountainlad

For a start, the comments about Cody being lucky completely discredit your argument on two accounts:

1) It shows that your argument is fuelled by a personal dislike or begrudgery

2) You are SO wrong

Secondly, what was worse about the incident for me was that it was one against three. The other two Kilkenny selectors came in and it was a bit ugly to me.

While I don't think any of these incidents should really have to much made about them (go to a local club game and you'll see this all the time), there is definitely a double standard when you look at how they've had microphones picking up Davy Fitz' comments this year and last. It's all media image. Cody is regarded to be as cool as a cucumber, the personification of wisdom, and while he's very clever, the fact that he gets angry and frustrated (and nervous) as much as anyone else has been very much evident in the past few years. He is the best manager of all time, but a lot of media outlets seem to elevate him above others on a personal level as well, so to highlight this incident a la Fitzgerald would betray their efforts.

lukin

Haven't read the whole thread but in answer to the question asked by the poster; because ever since Cody tore Marty Morrissey a new a***hole for asking a perfectly legitimate question three years ago, the media are scared stiff of him.

freddiek

Cody has been around so long now and won so much that he has acquired a monumental sized ego

The paranoia that infects the media dealings of top sportspeople like Cody is very off-putting. I see Alex Ferguson mentioned, thats quite a good comparison. If there is a Ferguson figure in the GAA, Cody is it

freddiek

Martin567 wrote: »

Yes, I'm aware of those people. One-eyed, bitter begrudgers is what I would call them.

Id call one-eyed not criticising someone when its merited.

Reg_hurley

It was highlighted by the media and probably highlighted more than it merited.
re Davy Fitz; the incident was brought up again on Championship Matters last week and Davy himself reckoned too much was being made out of it.
He did have a little dig at RTE about their mics not working as well as did did earlier on in the Championship.

Annuv

Jesus you can only laugh at this, the man reacts badly to two poor decisions by a referee in the space of 5 seconds that potentially cost his team an All-Ireland title and having his face rubbed in it by the opposition manager. The incident was highlighted during the game, on the screen in Croke Park too and in the Sunday Game that night, it mentioned in all the papers, gifs went viral etc etc and still it's not enough for people.

Continuing the petty theme, what I would like to know is why wasn't the awarding of a very questionable free that potentially cost a team an all-ireland highlighted or analyzed more in the media? Why was there not even a single replay of it shown at the time? Why in the Sunday Game that night was it that the only replay shown was from a camera angle that
appeared to be somewhere on the top of the hogan stand, with no close up of the incident yet we had numerous close in angles of the Cody-Cunningham incident.

Why was there no analysis of the blatant foul on Tommy Walsh in the run up to the final free that initially lead to Cody's anger?

When the Tyrrell-Gleenon incident did come up on the Sunday Game that night, I can't remeber ever seeing such willingness to quickly brush over such a contentious issue. Why did that happen?

robbiezero

Cryogen wrote: »

Cody does not believe in sportsmanship, he believes in winning at all costs hence why Kilkenny are considered by many as the dirtiest team,he is a bad loser

I disagree that he is a bad loser. He does believe in winning at all costs and bringing a huge physical intensity to the game and there is not much wrong with that.
He could not have been more gracious in defeat in 2010. Media were trying to put words in his mouth that they might not have lost had Shefflin been fit and he was having none of it, and unequivocolly gave Tipp the full credit they deserved with no yerra yerra.

corkrback

cody is a great manager <mod snip> .

it is a fair comparison to make between des cahills fear for the children after rtes pursuit of that mad jack in the box in clare and their kid glove treatment of cody since marty morrisey got slaughtered.

Clareman

Let's have the discussion without insulting people, thanks

looder

Cryogen wrote: »

Cody does not believe in sportsmanship, he believes in winning at all costs hence why Kilkenny are considered by many as the dirtiest team,he is a bad loser

Bollox.


Any time KK have been beaten, he's heaped praise on the opposition.

Cody is the most successful hurling manager for a reason. He's the best.

Has he been lucky? You don't win as many All Irelands as he has by just luck. Yes he's got a rub of the green, yes the system in KK from underage right up to senior has helped KK be so successful but to say it's all luck is wrong.

KK aren't dirty. They play on the edge and push the limits. More teams need to up their intensity and physicality instead of looking for excuses.

I'm a Tipp man by the way.

tippspur

looder wrote: »

Bollox.


Any time KK have been beaten, he's heaped praise on the opposition.

Cody is the most successful hurling manager for a reason. He's the best.

Has he been lucky? You don't win as many All Irelands as he has by just luck. Yes he's got a rub of the green, yes the system in KK from underage right up to senior has helped KK be so successful but to say it's all luck is wrong.

KK aren't dirty. They play on the edge and push the limits. More teams need to up their intensity and physicality instead of looking for excuses.

I'm a Tipp man by the way.

Quote='KK aren't dirty' haha,come on now ffs you're having a laugh :rolleyes:

Mr Keek

I think too much has been made of it too.

In the heat of the game, on the biggest Sunday of the year, of course sparks are going to fly.

...to be fair to Cody, he left it all on the field. He hasn't talked about it, or the free since (i could be open to correction though). I'll give him credit there.

run_Forrest_run

Terrible bitterness here on behalf of some begrudgers.
Cody loves his sport, he lives for hurling and his passion shines through, so what if he had a pop at Marty, big deal. Marty is a big boy and can handle it. Other managers can act worse and they are seen to be 'characters' but Cody seems to attract the bitterness and sour grapes due to his success I'd guess.

A fine example of Cody found again here as he takes time out of his preparations for the replay to give a speech to the Meath minor football team.
This isn't the first time he has done something like this, probably asking for nothing in return. If he was the brute some make him out to be do you think he'd bother doing stuff like this?

The fact is I'd say the media know more about Cody and how he operates than a lot of the posters here do and hence have a respect for the man.

ratracer

Things happen and are said in the heat of battle on the pitch. Both managers talked it down immediately after the game, hence the media didn't bother much with it either. I don't really think Brian Cody could ever be called lucky, imo he will go down as one of the greatest hurling managers of all time. I just hope he's disappointed on the 30th. C'mon Galway...

run_Forrest_run

ratracer wrote: »

Things happen and are said in the heat of battle on the pitch. Both managers talked it down immediately after the game, hence the media didn't bother much with it either. I don't really think Brian Cody could ever be called lucky, imo he will go down as one of the greatest hurling managers of all time. I just hope he's disappointed on the 30th. C'mon Galway...

I agreed with everything you said except the last bit:D
It's gone so quiet now in relation to the game, which is nice. The football can take the limelight and let the players train hard and the fans can save hard for the 30th.

False Prophet

Does show that Galway are getting under Cody skin.