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The curious case of Miriam Hyman, 7/7 Victim

  • 14-09-2012 2:52pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 921 ✭✭✭


    The Death of Myriam Hyman
    If I were the coroner, the case I’d be most nervous about would be the enigmatic death of Myriam Hyman, a Jew who campaigned on behalf of Palestine. Her name is on the plaque at Tavistock Square. In the first week after 7/7 her family put up posters around the King’s Cross area, and asked in local hospitals, if anyone knew of her whereabouts – and, whether she was dead? Her distraught Mother was interviewed by the Jewish Chronicle to this effect. My book analysed her emergence from the tube at King’s Cross station that morning, amidst all the chaos, and her phoning her father at 09.45 – remember that time – from King’s Cross station. I could not find what she had done next, but she did have a lunch appointment at Canary Wharf, where she worked for a publishing firm doing photographic image work.
    Euston station where the 30 bus stopped, the one that blew up in Tavistock Square, is about ten minutes’ walk due West from King’s Cross: while MH’s scheduled journey out to Canary Wharf was due East from King’s Cross. That 30 bus stopped at Euston at around 09.30.
    The Coroner therefore needs to ask the question: is there any way that Myriam Hyman could have been at Euston station at 09.30 that morning? If there isn’t – then she did not die on the bus.
    There is a further logistical problem – which a coroner’s court might feel at liberty to ignore – as to why M.H. would have struggled through the crowds to get to Euston, and then get onto a bus that was going straight back to where she had just come from, i.e King’s Cross: passengers getting onto the bus at Euston had no way of knowing it was going to be diverted into Upper Woburn Place, towards Tavistock Square, instead of its usual route.
    The bus blew its top at 09.47. A Coroner’s inquest should surely take on board the public statements which the father of MH chose to make – as to why his daughter could not possibly have been on board. The International Herald Tribune took him seriously enough to quote what he had told them, as follows:
    She [Myriam Hyman] was not wounded when she left the Underground. She was not on the bus because the bus exploded at about the time he was on the phone with her. Soon after, she called her workplace [i.e., at Canary Wharf], and was told not to bother to come in. That was at 10 a.m., after the attacks, he [the Father] said. “I don’t see how she could have got into the bus that exploded,” he said. “And the route makes no sense, whether she’s going to work or home.” Her cellphone goes unanswered. Hyman’s friends have papered the town with her image and raced to hospitals. (11)
    That was published on Monday the 11th so that statement could have been made on, say, Saturday 9th. Even more definitely, the Jewish Chronicle affirmed: ‘Miriam Hyman, 32, a freelance photo editor, called her father, John, from King’s Cross Station at 9:45 a.m. Thursday to say she was all right. That was the last anyone has heard from her.’ (Its 15 July edition) so, two newspapers carried the same story.
    I phoned up the father, to agree with him and offer him support, and could hardly believe my ears when he told me, no, all that was mistaken – somehow – and his daughter died at Tavistock Square. Her name is on that plaque, after all. In that case, I replied, how come she was not identified at once, as she would have had enough ID with her travelling to work? Her body had been found lying on the pavement next to the bus – so the family had been told. The Inquest might like to consider this. I scrutinised all of the pictures of the bus and can state that no body was lying on that pavement by the bus, after the blast. Its hard to find more than about three dead bodies around that bus in the aftermath – which was, as Daniel Obachike points out, the number reported in the immediate news broadcasts that morning.
    I took the liberty of phoning him up a second time, to see whether he would confirm that time when his daughter phoned him from King’s Cross, i.e. 9.45am – as some were suggesting that he might have got confused about this, about that last message he ever received from his daughter – and, yes, he did so. I reported this, and was then universally condemned in newspapers and blogs for having contacted a ‘victim family.’ That lying snake Rachel North accused me of ‘harassing victims’ families.’ But, heck, I was researching a book on the subject. I never quite saw what was meant to be so wrong about this. I tried to contact everyone of relevance to do that book. I had asked quite politely, and the father gave me permission to query him. The sister of Myriam Hyman then told me I had caused distress to the family. Well excuse me but this event has caused distress to all Londoners – nobody has a monopoly on it. And it was not me who chose to put the story in the public domain. I suggest that Truth is here more important than anything else, and our attempt to reach that needs to be unconditional: we will all suffer lasting damage, in my view, if we do not find it.
    The submission to the 7/7 inquest made by the July 7th Truth Campaign has much of interest concerning anomalies in the stories about those killed. But, I’m rather gobsmacked by a claim they make, that: ‘ Photographic evidence from the scene of the number 30 bus explosion would appear to show a clearly identifiable Miriam Hyman.’ They don’t explain how they get this! Also of interest is their quote: ‘ On 10th July 2005 the Observer reported that “Police have put a tracking device on Miriam’s phone so that if it is activated they will be able to find her.”‘ This indicates (I suggest) that they then did not know where she was, but surmised she might be still alive – or at least, were giving the Hyman family that impression.
    Update January 13th 2011: the Inquest ducked all of these issues, merely having the sister Esther Hyman commenting on Myriam H’s life. (Jan 12th am para 22)

    http://terroronthetube.co.uk/latest-77-articles-3/towards-a-77-inquest/

    This in an interesting anomaly. Canary Wharf meeting sets alarm bells off.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Seems there are a few curious cases.
    Alot about that bombing doesnt add up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    That lying snake Rachel North accused me of ‘harassing victims’ families.’ But, heck, I was researching a book on the subject. I never quite saw what was meant to be so wrong about this. I tried to contact everyone of relevance to do that book. I had asked quite politely, and the father gave me permission to query him. The sister of Myriam Hyman then told me I had caused distress to the family. Well excuse me but this event has caused distress to all Londoners – nobody has a monopoly on it. And it was not me who chose to put the story in the public domain.
    I'd be a bit worried about the tone here. This does not sound like a balanced and reasonable person.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 291 ✭✭Sixtus


    I know Rachel North. I've met her on several occasions. She was wounded in the attacks and is a advocate for a independent inquiry. She has little time for conspiracy theorists. In John Ronson's the psychopath test she talks about when she tried to confront conspiracy theorists about the attacks she was met with hostility and abuse by conspiracy theorist, that she tried to engage in person.

    Similarly the author of this book seems indifferent to the feelings of the family of Myriam Hyman. If there was any suspicion about the death of Myriam Hyman surely the family would be part, or indeed lead the charge. Furthermore there are many Jews who fight for Palestine rights so I wonder why you find Myrian's death suspicious.

    As to the suspicion about the route or her destination. Hundreds of thousands of people had meetings in Canary Warf that day. Why should she be different? And yes her route didn't make sense. No one's did that day. People evacuated off tubes, grabbed any available transport going anywhere. The article contradicts itself saying A)
    Euston station where the 30 bus stopped, the one that blew up in Tavistock Square, is about ten minutes’ walk due West from King’s Cross: while MH’s scheduled journey out to Canary Wharf was due East from King’s Cross.The bus blew its top at 09.47. A Coroner’s inquest should surely take on board the public statements which the father of MH chose to make – as to why his daughter could not possibly have been on board.

    So essentially the article is asking the question. "Why would she be going the opposite direction from her workplace. And then a few sentences later it includes this part;
    Soon after, she called her workplace [i.e., at Canary Wharf], and was told not to bother to come in.

    So she wasn't traveling to work when she got on the 30 bus, she was trying to get home.

    Furthermore as anyone who as a modicum of interest in the 7/7 attack will tell you, the number 30 bus exploded outside of a major trauma unit hospital, while doctors and nurses were engaging in a exercise at dealing with a major incident trauma. While conspiracy theorists might like to jump on this as a exciting fact it's merely a serendipitous coincidence that saved lives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Sixtus wrote: »
    Furthermore as anyone who as a modicum of interest in the 7/7 attack will tell you, the number 30 bus exploded outside of a major trauma unit hospital, while doctors and nurses were engaging in a exercise at dealing with a major incident trauma. While conspiracy theorists might like to jump on this as a exciting fact it's merely a serendipitous coincidence that saved lives.
    It would be rather odd if someone was simultaneously callous enough to blow up innocent people, but kind enough to do it outside a trauma centre. They would also know that the coincidence would set tongues wagging.

    As I often say, a world without coincidence would be the strangest world of all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    I often say "never say never".
    I wonder how often that hospital has done these drills in the past.
    Im just curious of the chances of this happening.Would seem far fetched alright, but yes, very serendipitous.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 291 ✭✭Sixtus


    It would be rather odd if someone was simultaneously callous enough to blow up innocent people, but kind enough to do it outside a trauma centre. They would also know that the coincidence would set tongues wagging.

    As I often say, a world without coincidence would be the strangest world of all.

    Or alternatively and more logically, the bomber was not from London, and was supposed to set his bomb off in the tube. However when he tried to board the tube it was already being evacuated because other members of his party had already detonated their devices. Unfamiliar with the city he boarded the first bus he could find and detonated his bomb not realising he was so close to a hospital.

    It's absurd to suggest he intentionally detonated the bomb because he knew he was so close to a hospital.
    I wonder how often that hospital has done these drills in the past.
    Im just curious of the chances of this happening.Would seem far fetched alright,
    Not in the slightest. Events like these that effect large numbers of people will always include "amazing coincidences" that conspiracy theorists will seize upon.

    Look at the pair of you, when you hear that Tavistock Hospital was a full trauma hospital ready to handle this disaster you immediately presume the bomber was equipped with this information when he set off his device. Instead of looking for the the more plausible explanation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Sixtus wrote: »
    Look at the pair of you, when you hear that Tavistock Hospital was a full trauma hospital ready to handle this disaster you immediately presume the bomber was equipped with this information when he set off his device. Instead of looking for the the more plausible explanation.
    Um...point of information: I made no such assumption...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Sixtus, trying to twist my words to make it look like i have a certain perspective on the issue doesnt do anything positive for anyone.

    Anyone who reads my posts and understands the context and motives behind them, will see you are not making much sense.
    I have a curious mind and like to question everything,which is why i speculate alot.
    That does not mean i believe outright that a bomber was told to bomb outside a hospital,even though you made an obvious attempt to entrap people here for that.
    To believe that with so little information would be a fair bit more than just speculation.

    Of all the people you attack, Monty is probably most likely to have been of the same mind as you.
    Read his posts again....

    Not everyone here are, as you would class, conspiracy theorists.
    You may attack me all day though if it suits you as others have in the past, i would probably fall well into that class still, so work away if it casts out your demons.
    But it wont really change me or my views on the world.
    Im much too curious and indecisive to settle on any one view of reality for good :)
    Theres just too many possibilities for anyone to be certain of alot of things.


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