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What's involved in taking delivery of a new plane?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,551 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Interesting, but I'm surprised that they change the configuration so quickly, as it then needs a new weight/balance report and has an impact on the aircraft guarantees. The best part of an aircraft acceptance is getting wined and dined by the manufacturer :):)

    smurfjed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭kub


    I wonder do the Ryanair lads get that kind of treatment as well? Or is it a case of familiarity breeding content.
    I have my doubts though that Ryanair park up their planes once delivered to Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭phonypony


    kub wrote: »
    I wonder do the Ryanair lads get that kind of treatment as well? Or is it a case of familiarity breeding content.
    I have my doubts though that Ryanair park up their planes once delivered to Dublin.


    decent video from last year- http://bcove.me/x6ki29tt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭A320


    kub wrote: »
    I wonder do the Ryanair lads get that kind of treatment as well? Or is it a case of familiarity breeding content.
    I have my doubts though that Ryanair park up their planes once delivered to Dublin.

    They probably do,there is always something to do,like deactivate the HF system,which was done but im not so sure about now do they have a few newer aircraft with the HF installed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭*Kol*


    A320 wrote: »
    They probably do,there is always something to do,like deactivate the HF system,which was done but im not so sure about now do they have a few newer aircraft with the HF installed

    They probably have the provisions installed for the system but no transceiver installed or control panel in the cockpit. They wouldn't be using HF but it would improve the marketability of the aircraft when they sell them down the line.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭*Kol*


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Interesting, but I'm surprised that they change the configuration so quickly, as it then needs a new weight/balance report and has an impact on the aircraft guarantees. The best part of an aircraft acceptance is getting wined and dined by the manufacturer :):)

    smurfjed

    All airlines perform their own mods when they get back to home base. It can range from installing wifi to simple things like having photos of their royal family in the aircraft. The effect on weight and balance of AA installing the wifi system would be negligible and would be a calculation exercise.

    The best part is the hospitality. It's the least the can do if you are buying aircraft from them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭A320


    *Kol* wrote: »
    They probably have the provisions installed for the system but no transceiver installed or control panel in the cockpit. They wouldn't be using HF but it would improve the marketability of the aircraft when they sell them down the line.
    They need the HF for coming across the atlantic,they remove it after if they choose to do so,but I think they may have kept the HF on some models because i think they operate down into the canaries via the oceanic routes,i may be wrong on this!!

    Iv'e done some myself after delivery (not ryanair) where the the ATC Mode S address and the Selcal codes were changed,all simple on the NG

    On the hospitality side..weve thrown out bottles of champagne etc,what a shame!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭kub


    phonypony wrote: »
    decent video from last year- http://bcove.me/x6ki29tt[/QUOTE]

    Thank you for that, I was actually proud there looking at the tricolour alongside the reg's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭*Kol*


    A320 wrote: »
    They need the HF for coming across the atlantic,they remove it after if they choose to do so,but I think they may have kept the HF on some models because i think they operate down into the canaries via the oceanic routes,i may be wrong on this!!

    Iv'e done some myself after delivery (not ryanair) where the the ATC Mode S address and the Selcal codes were changed,all simple on the NG

    On the hospitality side..weve thrown out bottles of champagne etc,what a shame!!!!

    you can cross the north Atlantic without HF. I would doubt they would be out of VHF range going down to the Canaries?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,566 ✭✭✭kub


    *Kol* wrote: »
    you can cross the north Atlantic without HF. I would doubt they would be out of VHF range going down to the Canaries?

    I am not sure either but I was litening to Cork ATC recently, there was a charter heading south to Canaries, they mentioned whilst going through the routing various HF frequencies. Or more to the point it was 'or on HF'


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭*Kol*


    kub wrote: »
    I am not sure either but I was litening to Cork ATC recently, there was a charter heading south to Canaries, they mentioned whilst going through the routing various HF frequencies. Or more to the point it was 'or on HF'

    Must be a better/more direct routing they get if they have HF?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,551 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    All airlines perform their own mods when they get back to home base
    Not all, we dont :) All requirements are discussed with manufacturer and delivered as specified.

    smurfjed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭*Kol*


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Not all, we dont :) All requirements are discussed with manufacturer and delivered as specified.

    smurfjed

    You are the exception then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭A320


    *Kol* wrote: »

    you can cross the north Atlantic without HF. I would doubt they would be out of VHF range going down to the Canaries?

    Routes south of cork down lasno direction is oceanic airspace and out of VHF range.Dunno if they use these routes,aer lingus do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭IngazZagni


    A320 wrote: »
    Routes south of cork down lasno direction is oceanic airspace and out of VHF range.Dunno if they use these routes,aer lingus do

    They do. A small percentage of the FR fleet have HF installed. These aircraft are primarily used on the UK/Ireland to the Canaries routes which transition through oceanic airspace for a more direct routing.


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