The "I'm unhappy/appealing" thread

dalta5billion

Hey,

Thought it would be good to make a separate thread for people who are unhappy with their results and/or plan to appeal them. In fairness we shouldn't overload the results thread with negativity.

I'll start us off. Unhappy with result in CSPE, Religion and History. English I knew was borderline so I might get a recheck on it anyways.

I was in shock reading my results, and I genuinely don't believe I am in denial. I'm feverishly checking examinations.ie for marking schemes when they're up.

The cost of rechecking all those (32 x 4 = €128!) is really putting me off, mainly because it's unfair to ask my parents, if those turn out to be fair results, so I'm really putting thought into this one.

Blergh. Feel sick just writing this.

aisher

Before you go and spend money on appeals why not ask the teachers you had if they think the result was a fair result based on your work up to this point - maybe you were aiming too high A bad result in the Junior does not have to mean anything -the Leaving is the important exam so if you learn from the experience of having sat this exam thats all that really matters. If the results are meaning you cant do higher level in the LC - talk to the teachers - normally everyone is allowed to give higher level a go despite poor junior cert results.

IrishLoriii

Hi
I got All Honours yesterday( with 2 pass subjects so I suppose there called Complimentary honours as
I HATE when someone who does pass in a subject says they got an honour cause they got an A B or a C!)
I was pretty happy with my results but I have to say Im really dissapointed with only getting a C in English.
I was 2% off an A in the mocks and my work rate has been consistent in English for the last 3 years.
I love English and its the only one Im really dissapointed in. Im wondering If I should appeal it
as it is only the Junior Cert and 32 euros alot of money but I am dissapointed. I showed my english
teacher and he knew I was dissapointed but he still said well done to me and all!
Also, Alot of people out of my year are dissapointed with the english results!

Troxck

IrishLoriii wrote: »

Hi
I got All Honours yesterday( with 2 pass subjects so I suppose there called Complimentary honours as
I HATE when someone who does pass in a subject says they got an honour cause they got an A B or a C!)
I was pretty happy with my results but I have to say Im really dissapointed with only getting a C in English.
I was 2% off an A in the mocks and my work rate has been consistent in English for the last 3 years.
I love English and its the only one Im really dissapointed in. Im wondering If I should appeal it
as it is only the Junior Cert and 32 euros alot of money but I am dissapointed. I showed my english
teacher and he knew I was dissapointed but he still said well done to me and all!
Also, Alot of people out of my year are dissapointed with the english results!

Same, I also got a C in English despite getting a B in the mocks. I worked consistently in English and have never fallen below a B, okay I may have gotten one or two Cs but they were 68/19... People in my class who were on par also got Cs, people who got As in the mocks got Bs. I'm very confused about this and not sure whether I should appeal or just get over it. I guess I'll still be doing honours for 5th...

IrishLoriii

Troxck wrote: »

Same, I also got a C in English despite getting a B in the mocks. I worked consistently in English and have never fallen below a B, okay I may have gotten one or two Cs but they were 68/19... People in my class who were on par also got Cs, people who got As in the mocks got Bs. I'm very confused about this and not sure whether I should appeal or just get over it. I guess I'll still be doing honours for 5th...

I know thats the way Im thinking. Ive always gotten A's or B's and
I may have gotten C's a few times but NOT often! My mams blaming the examiner for giving me my english paper 10 mins late but no matter what Im still dissapointed

Graftgirl

my daughter got a D in higher English, she was very surprised too, she really felt she was going to get a B or better. She has always been consistent with English, she got a B in the mocks and that generally is her mark.
I have noticed a lot of students very surprised at the low mark they got in higher english, a few of my daughters friends got D's when they were expecting a lot higher too.. I know of one person who was expecting an A and got a D.
I had decided not to let her appeal but the more I hear about people who are genuinely shocked at what they got in higher english the more I think it should be appealed,

Junokevv

Anyone else get a lower then usual mark in geography? I think since the paper was easy I got bell curved..

Pen Rua

The words of my teachers echo... "Just because you did well in the Mocks doesn't mean you will do the same in the real thing". Flicking through all these posts, the same phrase is popping up "I got a (grade) in my Mocks but got (a worse grade) in the JC!!!!"

spurious

It very much depends who corrected your mocks. If they were corrected by an experienced SEC corrector, then you have probably been given a good prediction.

If they were corrected by someone hired at a low rate of pay by the mock paper companies, then they may not have corrected it too well.

MadYaker

Honestly paying money to get your JC results rechecked is a waste. What difference does it make as long as it doesn't affect your subject choices for the LC. Im in my third year of a science degree in NUIG, I got 480 points in my LC and my JC was sh!te, I can't even remember the grades but there were a good few Ds. I didn't fail anything. In about a years time you will have forgotten about the JC and it will seem irrelevant.

Pen Rua

MadYaker wrote: »

Honestly paying money to get your JC results rechecked is a waste. What difference does it make as long as it doesn't affect your subject choices for the LC. Im in my third year of a science degree in NUIG, I got 480 points in my LC and my JC was sh!te, I can't even remember the grades but there were a good few Ds. I didn't fail anything. In about a years time you will have forgotten about the JC and it will seem irrelevant.

I've been thinking the same thing. The guys saying they want re-checks are the guys who said the JC is useless... €30 to re-check an exam that in the long run really doesn't matter, is a waste imo. Some guy got 2 B's and he wants both re-check to get straight A's....

Emliee

There isn't much point appealing Junior Cert results, especially for religion and cspe lol

Though I'd recheck mine if I got like a C in art

d123

dalta5billion wrote: »

I was in shock reading my results, and I genuinely don't believe I am in denial. I'm feverishly checking examinations.ie for marking schemes when they're up.

The cost of rechecking all those (32 x 4 = €128!) is really putting me off, mainly because it's unfair to ask my parents, if those turn out to be fair results, so I'm really putting thought into this one.

Blergh. Feel sick just writing this.

I'm in the exact same position, except my subjects are English, Maths, Science & Business.

I was in awe with a B in business, considering that I have been the business student of the year twice. I really think that the examiner forgot to add on the short qs.

I was equally as disappointed for science as I now fear that I wont be able to get my desired work experience placement in a lab, as it is judged on the junior results. Our coursework both a and b were perfect, and considering that we didn't get a spot-check examination, the examiner must have also omited a section while correcting it.

As for English, my teacher was truly surprised but not surprised with this years mixed results. Not one student in our school got an A in any of these subjects which is unusually strange.

What else can I do but pay 128 euro for the rechecks. I'm a perfectionist and simply cannot just throw a blanket over this and pretend that it never happened.

dalta5billion

d123 wrote: »

I'm in the exact same position, except my subjects are English, Maths, Science & Business.

I was in awe with a B in business, considering that I have been the business student of the year twice. I really think that the examiner forgot to add on the short qs.

I was equally as disappointed for science as I now fear that I wont be able to get my desired work experience placement in a lab, as it is judged on the junior results. Our coursework both a and b were perfect, and considering that we didn't get a spot-check examination, the examiner must have also omited a section while correcting it.

As for English, my teacher was truly surprised but not surprised with this years mixed results. Not one student in our school got an A in any of these subjects which is unusually strange.

What else can I do but pay 128 euro for the rechecks. I'm a perfectionist and simply cannot just throw a blanket over this and pretend that it never happened.

It's good to know there's someone else with 4 subjects that they feel were marked unusually. I honestly am asking myself if I am going crazy in the head. Conspiracy theories running through my mind include:

a) a sick test to see how many people will appeal.
b) my parents doctoring my results trying to make me into a more assertive individual by appealing.

But they're just impossible, unethical, and crazy talk to be honest.. I've racked my brains to pieces trying to find where I could have gotten marks taken off, and, quite frankly I've come up with nada. Everyone in school is saying I should be happy, and I am, kind've, but fact is everyone was predicting I'd get straight A's "as usual". Of course that's just not possible, and it happened that I slipped up in English. Big deal. I know I'm deserving of it. I'm moving on. (The fact that I love writing and have had pieces frequently read out in class is more deserving of a discussion on whether or not 5 hours on a single day is a good test of your literary skills over 3 years is appropriate, but anyway's, it's stupid to whine about the system now.)

I'm sorry to hear that you mightn't get work experience in a lab. Why does the Junior cert matter - it's your most recent exam results, and are seen as independent and trustworthy(they can compare people across the boards, not having to deal with schools that might have different exam systems, resulting in not being able to compare candidate A with candidate B.) Like it or lump it, it's an exam (nearly) every 4,5,6th year has done, and can be used to differentiate candidate A and B in academic skills.

JDOC1996

Hey,
Just want to put this out there-EVERYONE in my art class was given a D in art? 20 people like? And to be honest some of these projects were amazing. Should we all appeal?

spurious

JDOC1996 wrote: »

Hey,
Just want to put this out there-EVERYONE in my art class was given a D in art? 20 people like? And to be honest some of these projects were amazing. Should we all appeal?

Were your portfolios very similar?

JDOC1996

spurious wrote: »

JDOC1996 wrote: »

Hey,
Just want to put this out there-EVERYONE in my art class was given a D in art? 20 people like? And to be honest some of these projects were amazing. Should we all appeal?

Were your portfolios very similar?

No, not at all, every portfolio was completely different. I just can't understand why an examiner would give everyone in my year a D...

spurious

JDOC1996 wrote: »

No, not at all, every portfolio was completely different. I just can't understand why an examiner would give everyone in my year a D...

Yes it's odd. The only similar situation I have heard of (whole class getting D) was where there was a large suspicion that the portfolios were not entirely the students' own work.
Your Principal could ask Athlone was there a problem, though I think if there was, he/she would already be aware of it.

Spook_ie

I do seem to see a recurring theme when people say "I got x in my mocks but only Y in the actual Junior Cert" well the reverse happened to our child, she got 3 A's in the Mocks with a couple of B's, C's and 2 D's, she was gutted by the D's (one of which was Honours Maths - must add school's teachers corrected the mocks) she was determined to turn the Maths and English result around, and she worked extremely hard, we were down in the school for the results and she opened her envelope and burst into tears, I nearly dislocated her arm as I snatched the cert out of her hand...8 A's and 3 B's, she was so thrilled, and one of the A's was in honours Maths so we were thrilled for her. Of her 10 pals, 1 is appealing a C in Music and other is appealing a C in Irish.

I must add the poster who said an entire class got D's in Art is a little odd.

Jack55

Just a quick question. We appeal through our principal making the cheque out to the SEC and does he just need my exam number and the subject I'm appealing? Sorry he's kinda clueless..

JCHelp

Overall I done well in my Junior Cert but felt i deserved an A in Business in Maths. At first I thought oh just get over it but I then said to myself no Im not going to have it mess with my head and decided to appeal.

I got an A in every Business exam Ive ever sat and was so annoyed to get a B. After reviewing the marking scheme with my teacher we both agreed that I should appeal and she said she would chip in half the money! I finished both papers about 20 minutes early so wrote all my answers down on the paper you bring home. My teacher looked at the marking scheme and said she is an experience SEC examiner. She totted it up to 89% and then re marked it giving me as little as she could giving me 85%

In Maths I really thought I would get a B but the papers really suited me and came out of the exam hall thinking I might have got an A. Don't want it to be messing with my head so appealed!

spurious

Jack55 wrote: »

Just a quick question. We appeal through our principal making the cheque out to the SEC and does he just need my exam number and the subject I'm appealing? Sorry he's kinda clueless..

In the results package will be all the contact information needed for Athlone.

dalta5billion

Hi everyone, just saying that the closing date for appeals in my school is Monday. Not sure about other schools but it would be wise to get your appeals (if any) in soon.

Also reminding that you cannot go down a grade in Junior Cert appeals.

Well done to everyone anyways, and I hope you all eventually get what you deserve.

Kmgirl

I was happy with my jc results but I think even if I wasn't happy I don't think I would appeal. No one is going to ask you your jc results in college or later in life..there going to ask what LC results you got.

spurious

Kmgirl wrote: »

I was happy with my jc results but I think even if I wasn't happy I don't think I would appeal. No one is going to ask you your jc results in college or later in life..there going to ask what LC results you got.

Actually some universities in the UK do ask for them, but I agree with the gist of what you're saying. I wouldn't appeal if I 'wanted' an A and got a B, but I definitely would appeal if I expected an A or B and got an E.

dalta5billion

Leaving this here for people in the future, I got upgraded . Some advice would be not to take it to heart if you feel you are marked harshly, and to try to just put it behind you, out of mind.

rm212

Two of mine were upgraded too! HL Science went from B -> A and HL English went from C -> B