Where in Dublin to replace a PVC door lock, or cylinder if possible?

runswithascript

Hello

Keys have been lost for the front door PVC lock, and the back bottom hatch door of a vertical double door. I'm not sure of the correct name for the vertical door, but the door is split into two hatches like a stable door, and each hatch has its own lock. We are missing the key for the lower lock.

I have a feeling you can't just replace cylinders on these locks, am I wrong?

We have tried Woodies but they said they could not help us.

We are looking for somewhere we can get what we need tomorrow between Blessington and Dublin City Centre.

Please see the pictures below.

Front door:

Outside:

http://i.imgur.com/2ECkA.jpg

Sideshot:

http://imgur.com/5O6nY

Inside:

http://i.imgur.com/Y3wew.jpg

Back door:

Outside:

http://i.imgur.com/76vhA.jpg

Sideshot:

http://i.imgur.com/2Q1WP.jpg

I'm not there tonight but I can get a picture of the back door lock from the inside if necessary, although I think it's the same as the outside.

Carpenter

You are wrong any good ironmongery will sell you a barrel 25 euro max:D

mp22

Carpenter wrote: »

You are wrong any good ironmongery will sell you a barrel 25 euro max:D

Except that you need the key to extract the old barrel

runswithascript

Carpenter wrote: »

You are wrong any good ironmongery will sell you a barrel 25 euro max:D

Great!

mp22 wrote: »

Except that you need the key to extract the old barrel

Not so great!

Can you suggest an alternative, or do we have to get a locksmith? Perhaps I could take it apart with a drill and screw driver?

runswithascript

Unsettling video on how easy it can be to open a PVC lock with the locksmith tool or vicegrips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu3afG6TcBw&feature=related

When we fit the new cyclinder can it be done in such a way it can't be grabbed from the outside?

I see the cylinder on the front door does not stick out, but the one on the back door does...

Carpenter

mp22 wrote: »

Except that you need the key to extract the old barrel

No you do not

runswithascript

Carpenter wrote: »

No you do not

Please elaborate how to take out the cylinder on the front and door locks, and please note the front door cylinder does not stick out like the back door so there's nowhere to grab it.

Carpenter

dusf wrote: »

Please elaborate how to take out the cylinder on the front and door locks, and please note the front door cylinder does not stick out like the back door so there's nowhere to grab it.

If you go to any good ironmongery shop and tell them your predicament they might lend you there Knacker bar I am not going to go into it here on how to use it but they will tell you if your nice

runswithascript

Carpenter wrote: »

If you go to any good ironmongery shop and tell them your predicament they might lend you there Knacker bar I am not going to go into it here on how to use it but they will tell you if your nice

Is the knacker bar the tool shown in the video I linked? I have read it's possible to get the cylinder out with a vicegrips hammering it to the right, then the left, and then down from the top.

Carpenter

dusf wrote: »

Is the knacker bar the tool shown in the video I linked? I have read it's possible to get the cylinder out with a vicegrips hammering it to the right, then the left, and then down from the top.

The bar looks the same yes only with a pin that goes into the lock and the hammer trick is possible I am told but never seen it done years ago I had to do this in a bank all in all 5 min work and no damage.

runswithascript

Carpenter wrote: »

The bar looks the same yes only with a pin that goes into the lock and the hammer trick is possible I am told but never seen it done years ago I had to do this in a bank all in all 5 min work and no damage.

What did you do in the bank?

Also, I'm reading I should avoid 'euro-cylinders' and go for 'break secure' 'anti-snap' cylinders that although they can be broken, they will break where they are designed to denying entry.

Can these be fitted to the doors in the picture? They were fitted some years ago...

More on break secure anti-snap cyclinders: http://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/index.aspx?articleid=8291
.

Carpenter

dusf wrote: »

What did you do in the bank?

Also, I'm reading I should avoid 'euro-cylinders' and go for 'break secure' 'anti-snap' cylinders that although they can be broken, they will break where they are designed to denying entry.

Can these be fitted to the doors in the picture? They were fitted some years ago...

More on break secure anti-snap cyclinders: http://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/index.aspx?articleid=8291
.

I do not want to get into details here (I am sure you understand)