Any 1st years doing BCL - Law & Society ?

Tippgal93

Hi guys...

Any first years here doing this course? .. I am ... Excited much

Anyone have any idea what our timetable is like etc?

silleekitee

Hey! I'm starting Law and Society
I'm very excited, think we have only like 15 hours college time as far as ive been told

Solarmushroom

I'm starting aswell. Can't wait!
If you get your portal page on dcu.ie you can see your timetable.
Looks like we have 13 hours excluding tutorials...what ever they are.

silleekitee

Gosh that's not a lot is it! Sounds good to me though:) Are you guys on campus?

Tippgal93

Thats cool! Exciting times

Its seems like everyone else is started back now so cant wait to get up there

Im not staying on campus.. I didnt like the way there are only two people in the apartments so Im staying in a student village in Shanowen instead .. Wbu ? =]

silleekitee

Very exciting:) im moving up on Sunday after work so in the mean time im just trying to get everything sorted before then:)
I didnt get campus so im staying in the belfry apartments just a few minutes walk from the college

Alex145

Hi Guys,

Starting in 1st year bcl as well real excited can't wait to start as feeling bored now.


Had a quick look at timetable - it has changed already the first issue had no lectures r tutorials on Monday r Friday but the revised one appears to have both on both days.

Anyway my understanding is there is never anyone from the law dept around on Friday so we will have to see how it goes.

From what I have been told there is a lot of reading and you can expect to spend roughly 2 hours study/assignments etc for every hr lectures r tutorials and also need to keep eye on timetable as it is prone to change a lot in 1ST few weeks - rooms get re-gigged etc.

Anyone got any idea what clubs or societies to join r have plans for freshers week ?

Are we the only 4 on here so far? LOL

BeccaNim

I'm doing that course! Really can't wait to get started! Looking forward to meeting all the new people. Looking at the time table we don't have it too bad apart from Tuesday Oh well, We'll struggle through! :P

Ashashi

Hey guys, I am a final year student so I can give some snippets of info

Firstly, congrats on getting into BCL, it is a brilliant course that is building quite a positive name for itself. Regarding hours, one thing I would say is do not stress yourself out ridiculously in first year. First year is all about getting your head around the methods and life of college.

Lecturers will be around on Fridays, but some do go home for the weekends, but the majority will be around on Fridays, it is just that they are still preparing for the new year.

Regarding societies, the obvious answer is the Debate and Law society. We are one of the busiest and most active societies in DCU. We have expanded our Law section by running our first Moot Court Competition (basically it is a mock trial) last year which was very successful. There are an abundance of other societies in DCU, so always go for what interests you.

Best of luck and make sure to get active in extra curricular activities do maximize your time at DCU.

Aquilinus

Ashashi wrote: »

Hey guys, I am a final year student so I can give some snippets of info

Firstly, congrats on getting into BCL, it is a brilliant course that is building quite a positive name for itself. Regarding hours, one thing I would say is do not stress yourself out ridiculously in first year. First year is all about getting your head around the methods and life of college.

Lecturers will be around on Fridays, but some do go home for the weekends, but the majority will be around on Fridays, it is just that they are still preparing for the new year.

Regarding societies, the obvious answer is the Debate and Law society. We are one of the busiest and most active societies in DCU. We have expanded our Law section by running our first Moot Court Competition (basically it is a mock trial) last year which was very successful. There are an abundance of other societies in DCU, so always go for what interests you.

Best of luck and make sure to get active in extra curricular activities do maximize your time at DCU.

Hey I am doing BCL 1 too. Yea I took your advice about the extra curricular activities and joined 20 clubs and societies. Including Debate and Law which is boring, I didn't do mooting yet but the debate was just sitting down listening to some classmates debating on the right to bear arms. It was boring and of no use to my law course so I might do mooting instead. The Debate and law societies might be splitting soon I think.

I think you have to study a lot though as the reading list is well over two hours of reading for every hour of lecture. So do not say that this first year is easy and only for settling in as it is far from that. I don't do all the recommended reading but constitutional law reading list is insane 12 hours of reading for me as It takes an hour to read a long case for me and understand it.

I Joined some combat sports in DCU but they were of no use to me (Lack of Facilities) so I just joined a Muay thai gym in Dublin City which made me feel a hundred times healthier and better after the first lesson so I will keep at that.

BasedHobbes

adammc21 wrote: »

Hey I am doing BCL 1 too. Yea I took your advice about the extra curricular activities and joined 20 clubs and societies. Including Debate and Law which is boring, I didn't do mooting yet but the debate was just sitting down listening to some classmates debating on the right to bear arms. It was boring and of no use to my law course so I might do mooting instead. The Debate and law societies might be splitting soon I think.

I think you have to study a lot though as the reading list is well over two hours of reading for every hour of lecture. So do not say that this first year is easy and only for settling in as it is far from that. I don't do all the recommended reading but constitutional law reading list is insane 12 hours of reading for me as It takes an hour to read a long case for me and understand it.

I Joined some combat sports in DCU but they were of no use to me (Lack of Facilities) so I just joined a Muay thai gym in Dublin City which made me feel a hundred times healthier and better after the first lesson so I will keep at that.

You're being a bit ignorant towards the societies there. The debating topic might be boring to you, but the skills involved are still very relevant to your degree and your career in law as a whole.

Also, the combat sports in DCU have excellent facilities, as do almost all of the clubs. I work with them, and a lot of work and effort goes into getting the best there possibly is for our societies. If the sports aren't for you, that's understandable. However, saying that we have a "lack of facilities" is frankly not true. You may not have taken advantage of them properly, however, seeing as how you've only been in the college a few weeks.

As for the reading list, the idea is to understand the general principle behind the judgement in the case and the effect it had on subsequent cases. You don't need to really memorize the specifics of each case really.

Aquilinus

Finlay wrote: »

You're being a bit ignorant towards the societies there. The debating topic might be boring, but it's still very relevant to your degree and your career in law as a whole.

Also, the combat sports in DCU have excellent facilities, as to almost all of the clubs. I work with them, and a lot of work and effort goes into getting the best there possibly is for our societies. If the sports aren't for you, that's understandable. However, saying that we have a "lack of facilities" is frankly not true. You may not have taken advantage of them properly, however, seeing as how you've only been in the college a few weeks.

As for the reading list, the idea is to understand the general principle behind the judgement in the case and the effect it had on subsequent cases. You don't need to really memorize the specifics of each case really.

In what way am I being ignorant?

I tried out the MMA and it was in the handball court with no punch bags speed bags or any boxing ring or any other facility of your conventional "Combat sport".

The instructor was good but the sport and lack of an MMA specific or boxing, kickboxing specific gym (A place for only those sports) turned me off competing in DCU. That is only my opinion i will try other sports to see if they are for me at DCU but for the moment some sports have no gyms.

I tried it out a few times and the idea of under hooking a sweat covered person to learn the art of BJJ wasn't for me.

I enjoy the Muay thai which is within walking distance to my home which is an hour bus drive from DCU.

Yes there is a lack of facilities in some of the lesser sports that do not compete in competitions as much as the more traditional sports like GAA or possibly others. Maybe that is just my ignorance but that is what I take in from first glance of the several sports I've tried. I still have yet to try more than half of what I have joined. I try to fit them around my busy schedule.

Oh and as for the debate it was boring and does not deal with case law or legislation directly therefore how can it be beneficial, for a law student in an educational way? other than a hobby of course to develop public speaking. I do not want to sound crude, ignorant or offensive just typing my opinion and my preferences invoking this reply. ( I judge facilities how I see them some good some bad, your opinions are clearly different but did I once call you ignorant in this reply? maybe you should not call first year students or any other year ignorant, as that in itself is extremely ignorant) mostly good though.

I tried out snow sports which was good, and I will most likely keep at that because they took us to a place where we could learn the sport with proper facilities, which is crucial for learning anything (in kilternan).

Mooting is probably more law specific and concentrates with a mock trial I haven't done it yet but that is my humble opinion. So I look forward to helping that in any way I can.

I was just wondering why all that is on the reading list it seems rather daunting but I am very interested in the constitutional law. Any thoughts? discuss your answer with relevant points and support your answer with case law just joking

BasedHobbes

adammc21 wrote: »

In what way am I being ignorant?

I tried out the MMA and it was in the handball court with no punch bags speed bags or any boxing ring or any other facility of your conventional "Combat sport".

The instructor was good but the sport and lack of an MMA specific or boxing, kickboxing specific gym (A place for only those sports) turned me off competing in DCU. That is only my opinion i will try other sports to see if they are for me at DCU but for the moment some sports have no gyms.

I tried it out a few times and the idea of under hooking a sweat covered person to learn the art of BJJ wasn't for me.

I enjoy the Muay thai which is within walking distance to my home which is an hour bus drive from DCU.

Yes there is a lack of facilities in some of the lesser sports that do not compete in competitions as much as the more traditional sports like GAA or possibly others. Maybe that is just my ignorance but that is what I take in from first glance of the several sports I tried.

Oh and as for the debate it was boring and does not deal with case law or legislation directly therefore how can it be for a law student in an educational way? other than a hobby of course to develop public speaking.

I tried out snow sports which was good and will most likely keep at that because they took us to a place where we could learn the sport with proper facilities which is crucial for learning anything (in kilternan).

Mooting is probably more law specific and concentrates with a mock trial I haven't done it yet but that is my humble opinion.

I was just wondering why all that is on the reading list it seems rather daunting but I am very interested in the constitutional law.

You've only done at most two classes of MMA, and you've never trained in it before. If you had, you'd know that speed bags and a ring are not the crucial facilities of a good gym. A good coach and good people to train with are. Both of which DCU MMA has. If your problem with it is that you don't want to fight someone sweaty, so be it. It's your problem, not the sport's.

I am PRO for DCU Judo, which could be considered one of the "lesser sports" in DCU. We put an incredible amount of time into getting really really excellent facilities to train in. Same goes for MMA. I personally know dozens of brilliant fighters and judokas who learned all they know from DCU. You're being completely ignorant of those facts, which stems from the fact that you've only gone to one or two classes.

As for the debating, I've done it for almost six years. The analytical skills and argumentative abilities I've developed through it have been very useful so far in law. Furthermore, if you plan on advocating for someone in court, any public speaking experience you can get is brilliant. It will help you in that regards when it comes to mooting.

Aquilinus

Okay. I didn't know about any fighters. I just like good facilities for everything, I do not care if fighters came out of there. Fighters come from a lot of gyms, but that is not my main aim I just like striking pads, belts and bags with my limbs okay I don't need an analysis of what good can come from nothing, okay good night I am tired and must finish my Criminal Law essay, alter the draft I made. Night god maybe I should not say controversial things or else I will have to waste my time typing out replies to strangers. Okay nice talking to you bye.

Konata

Watch the attitudes lads.