This woman avoided penalty points by paying 300 to charity. WTF?

take everything

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/donation-saves-rtes-secret-millionaire-from-penalty-points-3223225.html

This seems incredible. Why can't i do this with the last couple i got.
And this was after she was summoned.
Could this be used a precedent in future cases.

Jimbob 83

Must have had a nice ass or a relative in the Guards or something along those lines

Edit: Ahh nvm she is stinking rich, nvm

Toyotafanboi

from glancing over the article.

she gives tens of thousands of her own money to worthy causes/ charities and the needy.

and was given the opertunity to pay 300 quid instead of taking 2 for speeding. very easy to get caught doing a little over the limit in some places, i doubt she was doing 100km/h in a housing estate or anything.

grand outcome imo. admittedly more special treatment than me and my empty bank account would get from the courts but still...

Jimbob 83

The law is the law, when you make exceptions it's pointless even having them in place

paddy147

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

from glancing over the article.

she gives tens of thousands of her own money to worthy causes/ charities and the needy.

and was given the opertunity to pay 300 quid instead of taking 2 for speeding. very easy to get caught doing a little over the limit in some places, i doubt she was doing 100km/h in a housing estate or anything.

grand outcome imo. admittedly more special treatment than me and my empty bank account would get from the courts but still...

See,there the proof......

One law for the rich and another for the poor(er)

mitosis

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

from glancing over the article.

she gives tens of thousands of her own money to worthy causes/ charities and the needy.

and was given the opertunity to pay 300 quid instead of taking 2 for speeding. very easy to get caught doing a little over the limit in some places, i doubt she was doing 100km/h in a housing estate or anything.

grand outcome imo. admittedly more special treatment than me and my empty bank account would get from the courts but still...

From the article, 71 in a 50. Significantly more than a little

Skid

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

from glancing over the article.

she gives tens of thousands of her own money to worthy causes/ charities and the needy.

Which should have absolutely no relevance in a Court of Law.

Ridiculous decision by the Judge.

paddy147

"In the RTE series, Ms Nicholas has to survive for a week on the equivalent of jobseeker's allowance, minus rent and energy charges, which left her with €91."



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A few goverment politicians could try this too.

Live in the "real world"....for a change.

Toyotafanboi

paddy147 wrote: »

See,there the proof......

One law for the rich and another for the poor(er)

admittedly so, but i reckon if i stay poor and stay within the law then this will never bother me.

mitosis wrote: »

From the article, 71 in a 50. Significantly more than a little

whats that, like 40 in a 30 in old money? easily do-able in plenty of circumstance. not condoning it, but you know yourself some speed limits are silly, theres every chance she was driving safely.

monkeypants

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

pay 300 quid instead of taking 2 for speeding.

Would it not be four points as it ended up in court? Very good deal as far as I can see, I'd certainly ask for it if I found myself in front of a judge for speeding.

After that rapist chap getting the suspended sentence in return for paying cash compensation; what are the courts playing at?

Kurz

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

admittedly so, but i reckon if i stay poor and stay within the law then this will never bother me.

whats that, like 40 in a 30 in old money? easily do-able in plenty of circumstance. not condoning it, but you know yourself some speed limits are silly, theres every chance she was driving safely.

So then nobody should ever get penalty points?

Toyotafanboi

dont want to come accross all wrong here.

i think my point is, is there really a point in getting upset.

rich do gooder gets off the hook by doing extra good when having done no major bad. borderline non event in my eyes. i'l leave it at that

.... This is why I repeatedly mention driving without insurance is one of the few offences consistently punished appropriately by the legal system. Contacts, compensation, hards incompetance or singing works wonders with other offences.

martinr5232

Does she not still get the two points for the fixed penalty and its upto the judge on the day weather or not to issue upto two more at his discretion.

She paid the fine two days late so I assume that means that she accepted the points and as it was an over sight on her part and she appolagised he only gave her a fine.

Thats how I read it anyway.

Pottler

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

The law is the law, when you make exceptions it's pointless even having them in place

It can be if you pay €300. Ta dah. Pointless.

monkeypants

That's if a ticket and fine is even received. As the 'Traffic Blues' series illustrated, most women were let go with a warning for offences while men received tickets. I couldn't believe that they'd broadcast this, but they did.

MagicMarker

This person is a millionaire and the judge gives her the option of paying 300 quid to charity to save getting penalty points???

This would be the equivalent of asking your average joe to give a fiver to charity to save getting penalty points. At least give her the option of paying 10 grand to charity.

This judge is a ****ing moron.

unkel

So no fine, no penalty points? That's a bit dodgy is it not?

The judge wasn't the same one who could have and should have prevented the worst road traffic accident ever in Ireland?

Blazer

Wouldn't this set a precedent for not getting points if you choose to fight your case? Not from a law background so no idea if her case could influence new ones??

Mikros

take everything wrote: »

This seems incredible. Why can't i do this with the last couple i got.
And this was after she was summoned.
Could this be used a precedent in future cases.

Precedent? This happens up and down the country every single day. Nearly all first time minor offences that end up in court get let off with a charitable contribution or the Probation Act. Most people would consider the €80 and 2 penalty points a simpler way out than having to appear in court. Don't pay the fine if you want the experience. The only unusual thing about this story is that the Independent ran a story on it.

jimmycrackcorm

She got two points automatically from the original offence (nothing to do with court) but the judge had the discretion to not give her the additional two normally given once it goes to court.

But why let facts spoil a news story.

Guy:Incognito

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

She got two points automatically from the original offence (nothing to do with court) but the judge had the discretion to not give her the additional two normally given once it goes to court.

But why let facts spoil a news story.

I'm on the dole. Would everyone be happy enough for me to buy my way out of the extra with a donation in the same proportion to my income? Say 50c?

MarkR

unkel wrote: »

So no fine, no penalty points? That's a bit dodgy is it not?

The judge wasn't the same one who could have and should have prevented the worst road traffic accident ever in Ireland?

Was that the inishowen crash? What's the link to the judge?

pah

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

She got two points automatically from the original offence (nothing to do with court) but the judge had the discretion to not give her the additional two normally given once it goes to court.

But why let facts spoil a news story.

No, she received no points.

2 points are only applied when you pay the fine. This is in case someone fights the case in court and wins- the 2 points are not removed afterwards.

It's 2 if you pay with the possibility of 4 on conviction in court. That's the risk - 2 points and NO conviction VS 4 points and a Road Traffic Conviction.

In this case the Judge would have struck out the case or applied the probation of offenders act (where no conviction is recorded) in lieu of the payment to charity. This happens in courts up and down the country every day for minor road traffic offences, public order even possession of small amounts of drugs.

Judges discretion at the end of the day.