No dutch :( ?

jay92

I plan to move to Holland after my 4 years of college and the industry I,ll work in is Tourism. But for this I will need to learn dutch but it seem,s there is no real market so to speak for the language here in Ireland.

My question is why? Seem,s like such a great language not to mention quite similar to English

deirdremf

jay92 wrote: »

I plan to move to Holland after my 4 years of college and the industry I,ll work in is Tourism. But for this I will need to learn dutch but it seem,s there is no real market so to speak for the language here in Ireland.

My question is why? Seem,s like such a great language not to mention quite similar to English

They can all speak English, so there is no need for Irish visitors to Holland to learn Dutch.
Many English-speakers live in Holland for years without learning the language. This may be short-sighted, but it is nonetheless true.

feargale

deirdremf wrote: »

jay92 wrote: »

They can all speak English, so there is no need for Irish visitors to Holland to learn Dutch.
Many English-speakers live in Holland for years without learning the language. This may be short-sighted, but it is nonetheless true.

Quite true. The Dutch have no pride in their language. Amsterdam is virtually an English-speaking city now. The Dutch colonised much of the world, but left almost no trace of their language behind them. Jay, kant u een beetje Nederlands spreken ?

wonton

Infairness they didn't actually have that big of an empire(if you would even call it that ) at all, and dutch is the lanaguage of suriname and afrikaans came from dutch.



but ye apart from scandanavia, it would probably have the best skills of english as a second language.

franc 91

Well when I was in Amsterdam (admittedly quite some time ago) having some basic Dutch was very useful and when you go out into the countryside even more so. It's when you have to deal with difficult situations such as telephoning for help or dealing with the administration and the police that you quickly realise that not everyone in the Netherlands automatically speaks English - and why should they?
The book I found useful - though it's probably out of print now - was: Introduction to Dutch - A Practical Grammar by William Z. Shetter published by Martinus Nijhoff - The Hague and the dictionary in two volumes published by Prisma Woordenboeken - Nederlands-Engels Woordenboek and Engels-Nederlands Woordenboek - but then again there are probably new editions of them out now.

syntax1

feargale wrote: »

deirdremf wrote: »

Jay, kant u een beetje Nederlands spreken ?

Interesting! I can read and understand that no problem.

Boombastic

syntax1 wrote: »

feargale wrote: »

Interesting! I can read and understand that no problem.

Laura speaks dutch is a great podcast for learning

syntax1

Boombastic wrote: »

syntax1 wrote: »

Laura speaks dutch is a great podcast for learning

Currently learning Estonian, Lithuanian and Welsh but will check it out when I have some slots in my language learning schedule!

Boombastic

syntax1 wrote: »

Boombastic wrote: »

Currently learning Estonian, Lithuanian and Welsh but will check it out when I have some slots in my language learning schedule!

Geen problem

feargale

syntax1 wrote: »

Boombastic wrote: »

Currently learning Estonian, Lithuanian and Welsh but will check it out when I have some slots in my language learning schedule!

You're picking difficult ones. I've looked at Welsh on occasions, would like to pick it up, but find it very difficult, not many pegs to hang anything on, even though my Irish aint too bad.

syntax1

feargale wrote: »

syntax1 wrote: »

You're picking difficult ones. I've looked at Welsh on occasions, would like to pick it up, but find it very difficult, not many pegs to hang anything on, even though my Irish aint too bad.

Interesting, but not too difficult. I'd make my life easier if I went for more conventional languages (more avenues to practice, more resources etc.) but I like being able to surprise Estonians and Lithuanians by being able to speak some of their language.

As for Welsh, I am learning it here. No need for books or writing it down. It's a free audio course. Excellent and so easy to remember everything if you follow the instructions. I was speaking basic Welsh only after a few days.

Tijmen

If anyone is still interested in learning Dutch, I am a Dutch native living in Cork and I'd be happy to help you out
Either online, or in person is fine with me, although if you want regular tutoring in person I'd be looking for some form of compensation. Online tutoring would be free, as I can fit it into my schedule easier.

feargale

Tijmen wrote: »

If anyone is still interested in learning Dutch, I am a Dutch native living in Cork and I'd be happy to help you out
Either online, or in person is fine with me, although if you want regular tutoring in person I'd be looking for some form of compensation. Online tutoring would be free, as I can fit it into my schedule easier.

Gooie avond Tijmen. Zullen wij beginnen?

galson

Tijmen wrote: »

If anyone is still interested in learning Dutch, I am a Dutch native living in Cork and I'd be happy to help you out
Either online, or in person is fine with me, although if you want regular tutoring in person I'd be looking for some form of compensation. Online tutoring would be free, as I can fit it into my schedule easier.

Sorry for digging up the old thread, but I just saw it here. Are you still up for something like that? I used to learn Dutch a bit in the past, the progress was good and all but I lost motivation due to the lack of somebody to actually use the language with. It's not about tutoring really, more like having some conversations with a person who speaks the language, can correct if necessary, throw in some nuances that cannot be found in books, etc., even the so called 'bad words', they are after all part of the language too!