Property frontage laws

ODriscoll

Anyone know what the law is for the following.

A Rural country road in farming area, the road not much better than a boreen.

Question specifically concerning the verge/grass immediately outside the property, and before the road itself.

1. who owns or is responsible for the verge outside the property? maintain it etc, is it the property owner?
The owners called the council and claim they were told technically they owned half the road??


2. Is it legal to place rocks on the verge itself, in order to stop vehicles driving onto the verge.

Payton

I have a similar issue, here's my thread.
http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2056305274?page=1#post_72906526

ODriscoll

Thanks, I will look at that.

ODriscoll

Interesting but you do not seem to have a clear answer.
Have you found out the definitive laws?

Still need to know about
The placing of rocks to prevent vehicles driving onto and compacting the verge, or worse large vehicles causing massive hollows & divots.
Making the maintenance all but impossible.

Payton

ODriscoll wrote: »

Interesting but you do not seem to have a clear answer.
Have you found out the definitive laws?

Still need to know about
The placing of rocks to prevent vehicles driving onto and compacting the verge, or worse large vehicles causing massive hollows & divots.
Making the maintenance all but impossible.

I'm still awaiting an answer from my local co council even after contacting them again. It's a bit of a minefield.
To place rocks on it albeit to prevent vehicles parking would be illegal, "if" and a big if a vehicle gets damaged who is responsible? The council will say nothing until an issue arises they just sit on the fence so to speak. But when it does arise and a claim is persued against them you'll find out very quickly who is responsible and who put the rocks there, who gave you the right to put them there?.....your rocks.

ODriscoll

Payton wrote: »

I'm still awaiting an answer from my local co council even after contacting them again. It's a bit of a minefield.
To place rocks on it albeit to prevent vehicles parking would be illegal, "if" and a big if a vehicle gets damaged who is responsible? The council will say nothing until an issue arises they just sit on the fence so to speak. But when it does arise and a claim is persued against them you'll find out very quickly who is responsible and who put the rocks there, who gave you the right to put them there?.....your rocks.

Unfortunately your points are all probably correct.

However I suppose one could argue that big rocks are even in place in urban areas to prevent traffic.
I have seen them in Dublin, not rocks but boulders.
Anyone in theory could claim against them.

If someone was driving off road or on a verge, surely it is their fault if they then go in a ditch or hit a rock.

When you think about some of the hollows in verges around rural lanes, where a car could almost get lost. A few rocks in situ could be considered a safety precaution.

I suppose they must get the council to decide if it is OK.

Why do you think rocks are particularly illegal?

Payton

" Why do you think rocks are particularly illegal?"
It could be anything from rocks, gravel, fill it with cement. It's when an issue arises they more than likely they will pursue who done it. Drop into your local council and ask will they do something about it such as yellow lines, sawn telegraph poles etc. You might have better luck than me.