round bales

Masseymad

hi............my cousin is going to make hay hopefully on friday or saturday......he will make his own bales some square,some round.....anyways i know that square bales can be balled when slightly damp......is this the case with round bales or do they have to be perfectly dry (he isint sure as he only bought the round baler 2 months ago)

thanks

mike

massey265

As far as i know you can round bale hay slightly damper than square bales.....but correct me if am wrong.

Sam Kade

Are you two serious or is this a joke

massey265

Sam Kade wrote: »

Are you two serious or is this a joke

Sam Kade

massey265 wrote: »

now we are both confused How do you reckon that you can round bale damp hay or round bale hay at at higher moisture than square bales?

massey265

Sam Kade wrote: »

now we are both confused How do you reckon that you can round bale damp hay or round bale hay at at higher moisture than square bales?

I have known it to be round bale it a day sooner than it can be square baled, it doesnt seen to heat as much in the round bale, also seen square bales stacked in shed with water running out from under the door and it turned out great hay, not sure how tho..

Username John

Sam Kade wrote: »

now we are both confused How do you reckon that you can round bale damp hay or round bale hay at at higher moisture than square bales?

Years ago, when round bales first appeared maybe, the news was that big round bales could be made that bit sooner than square bales...
I say big as there was a neighbor here had a small round baler, very old, it come out before the small square balers, and lads used to say that they were a worse job than the small square bale

The thinking now is that hay needs to be left longer to go into a round bale, than a small square.

Cant comment either way, as we never made big rounds...

mauser77

Maybe try baleing it first thing in the morning at about 7am when its good and damp wait a week or so and let us no when the shed burns down

Sam Kade

massey265 wrote: »

I have known it to be round bale it a day sooner than it can be square baled, it doesnt seen to heat as much in the round bale, also seen square bales stacked in shed with water running out from under the door and it turned out great hay, not sure how tho..

I have made many square bales in my time and I can tell you if there is water running out of them when stacked you will have a fire and if not you will have a heap of dung.

fepper

the round bale defo needs drier hay goin into it by its sheer size alone,makes sense really and so much easier to draw in as well when the rain comes again

Manoffeeling

Masseymad wrote: »

hi............my cousin is going to make hay hopefully on friday or saturday......he will make his own bales some square,some round.....anyways i know that square bales can be balled when slightly damp......is this the case with round bales or do they have to be perfectly dry (he isint sure as he only bought the round baler 2 months ago)

thanks

mike

Will you becoming on here to ask if you should switch on the wiper if it's raining when you are baling this dung... I mean hay

EpicPothole

Hay should be dry! And none of the following. Wet, wetter, damp, misty, musty, dung. Close thread

Masseymad

thanks lads

Black Smoke

Masseymad wrote: »

thanks lads

What your cousin needs to do is make trams! Make sure to pull the butts. Rake down the sides carefully. Top to a point. Put four sougan ropes on in case if a bit of wind. Tighten the ropes stain after 24 hours. Leave in the field for about three weeks. Than undo all the work previously done, by manually forking into the baler, round or square. Bring to shed and store carefully.
It will be therapeautic if nothing else. Might be fkcu all feed value, but ye will make the local paper, and with a bit of luck, Mary Kennedy and the nationwide team might put ye on tv.

tanko

EpicPothole wrote: »

Hay should be dry! And none of the following. Wet, wetter, damp, misty, musty, dung. Close thread

Thanks, couldn't stop laughing when i read this:D

Muckit

Masseymad ...FFS man!!

....they'I think we're all barking mad here in Galway!!!

Lando Griffin

Having made thousands of square and round bales it is safe to say that it nearly has to be bone dry, no dew, nothing.
The big advantage that round bales have over square bales is that you can leave them in the field longer during bad weather.
If you are going to bale damp hay, you be as well wrap it!

darragh_haven

Muckit wrote: »

Masseymad ...FFS man!!

....they'I think we're all barking mad here in Galway!!!

Jaysus Muckit, shur ye are all mad out there in the west. Some of ye think ye'll beat kilkenny twice in one year!!!!!:D
(hope ye do tho)

Masseymad

well we didnt loose yet

PatQfarmer

Only found this now! Funniest thread I've seen in ages.:D:D
Hope he got it baled DRY in the last spell of weather...or else did the sensible thing and wrapped it!
And c'mon Galway...you've gotta bate them Cats, seein' as we couldn't do it.
Thanks lads!:D:D:D

Masseymad

ya in the end we wrapped them.......sure well beat them no bother

joejobrien

If all else fails,.............try baling it in the rain and let us know:D:D:D:D

funkey_monkey

Not quite true. You can get a product which you put onto the hay as it is fed into the baler using an applicator - similar to that used on clamp silage. Although it is not for 'wet' hay. Just for moisture levels slightly above baling standard.

Also, make sure you reset the pressure on the baler to be less than that used for silage. I'm not sure what the pressure is off the top of my head - check the manual.

Fat Cant

You can bale it wet if you buy a hay dryer but they will cost you big money lol

Masseymad

shure them hay dryers would be up on 200,000 whats this thing for the baler called?

Pat the lad

Fat Cant wrote: »

You can bale it wet if you buy a hay dryer but they will cost you big money lol

there is a lad near maynooth or kilcock has big hay dryers in from America . he bales the hay at a halage stage and then drys it. he specialises in the horse hay Market. can't remember where I read about him, must of been the ugh??

brian_t

Pat the lad wrote: »

there is a lad near maynooth or kilcock has big hay dryers in from America . he bales the hay at a halage stage and then drys it. he specialises in the horse hay Market. can't remember where I read about him, must of been the ugh??

http://www.robinsonfarms.ie/haydryer

Masseymad

i wonder will they ever become popular?