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notices placed on the drivers side window

  • 05-09-2012 7:58pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭


    Any one know what the guidance on placing notices like " No parking here" on car side windows, my opinion would be never, back side window fine...as it can cause the drivers view to be obstructed if they cannot be fully removed there and then......Please don't turn this into a " you shouldn't have parked there thread, thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    Are you asking with a view to putting them there or has it happened to you?

    Its my opinion that they are completely out of order; someone parking incorrectly does not give you the right to cause criminal damage to their vehicle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,125 ✭✭✭kirving


    If someone is parking in your space, a post-it explaining that the space is yours, or blocks your driveway would be fine IMO. Anything more isn't on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,708 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    If someone is parking in your space, a post-it explaining that the space is yours, or blocks your driveway would be fine IMO. Anything more isn't on.

    Exactly, but only if the space is yours and listed on the deeds of your house/apartment, nearest space to your house isn't automatically "yours".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    They're usually put there by management company, car park owners etc. you'd need a blade and winolene to gt them off, they're very sticky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭markc1184


    Heat it up with a hair dryer first and it makes it a lot easier to get off.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    It was my first day in a new job and I had incorrectly parked near to, but not on a double yellow line. I went out on lunch at 1pm and found a handwritten note calling my parking a "hazard" sellotaped to the drivers side of my windscreen. Not only that, but the bastard who put it there also decided to stick 9 pieces of Sellotape randomly around the drivers side too.

    It was fairly warm out and they must have been there a while because I literally could not take them off, just the top half separating and leaving the glue on the windscreen. Took 2 washes with a power washer to remove, after taking the drive home, on a motorway with about 50% visibilty of the road. I still haven't found who was responsible but I suspect he works nearby. If I ever catch him in the act, I will literally kick that Sellotape roll up his imbecilic arse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    There's a reason they do it like that, to piss you off and make sure you don't park there again.
    A small note under the windscreen wiper just doesn't have the same "punch".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    If the vehicle was correctly parked then there wouldn't be a problem.

    The ilegal parker is lucky its only a little sticker on the side window.
    The sticker been placed on the window isn't criminal damage because it doesn't damage your car and sure easy enough to get off as stated above by colm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭goz83


    If the vehicle was correctly parked then there wouldn't be a problem.

    The ilegal parker is lucky its only a little sticker on the side window.
    The sticker been placed on the window isn't criminal damage because it doesn't damage your car and sure easy enough to get off as stated above by colm.

    But if you have to drive home with reduced visibility, that's surely more of a hazard than parking close to double yellows. I'd park there again and keep watch and when you see Mr Sellotape, beat the crap out of him and sellotape him to a tree full of birds. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    goz83 wrote: »
    But if you have to drive home with reduced visibility, that's surely more of a hazard than parking close to double yellows. I'd park there again and keep watch and when you see Mr Sellotape, beat the crap out of him and sellotape him to a tree full of birds. ;)

    Ducttape so much more effective;):p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Doom wrote: »
    Any one know what the guidance on placing notices like " No parking here" on car side windows, my opinion would be never, back side window fine...as it can cause the drivers view to be obstructed if they cannot be fully removed there and then......Please don't turn this into a " you shouldn't have parked there thread, thanks.

    You posting this thread here proves it works.

    If its really that dangerous to drive home then remove it before you go home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Doom wrote: »
    Any one know what the guidance on placing notices like " No parking here" on car side windows, my opinion would be never, back side window fine...as it can cause the drivers view to be obstructed if they cannot be fully removed there and then......Please don't turn this into a " you shouldn't have parked there thread, thanks.

    You posting this thread here proves it works.

    If its really that dangerous to drive home then remove it before you go home.

    Which is the key point here. It's your responsibility to ensure your vehicle is roadworthy before using it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    Wind-down the window?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    goz83 wrote: »
    But if you have to drive home with reduced visibility,

    nobody is forcing you to drive it before taking the sticker off...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    markc1184 wrote: »
    Heat it up with a hair dryer first and it makes it a lot easier to get off.

    Brilliant, but I don't have a hairdryer in my car or a 400ft extension lead either!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    Doom wrote: »
    Any one know what the guidance on placing notices like " No parking here" on car side windows

    It's much cheaper than being clamped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭working fool


    An acquaintance had trouble with a jackass blocking his driveway .
    A set of uk number plates , double sided tape .
    A clear lunchbox with a few wires & play dough .
    And a phone call to the Garda saying their was a suspicious car abandoned , done the trick .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭IrishZeus


    An acquaintance had trouble with a jackass blocking his driveway .
    A set of uk number plates , double sided tape .
    A clear lunchbox with a few wires & play dough .
    And a phone call to the Garda saying their was a suspicious car abandoned , done the trick .

    If that's true (which I doubt), then your acquaintance was a childish, moronic imbecile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,662 ✭✭✭pah


    Criminal damage all day long


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Veloce


    An acquaintance had trouble with a jackass blocking his driveway .
    A set of uk number plates , double sided tape .
    A clear lunchbox with a few wires & play dough .
    And a phone call to the Garda saying their was a suspicious car abandoned , done the trick .

    Your acquaintance is a sheer and utter idiot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    pah wrote: »
    Criminal damage all day long
    Perhaps someone could explain how putting a car on someone else's property is ok but putting sellotape on the car is not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭working fool


    Veloce wrote: »
    An acquaintance had trouble with a jackass blocking his driveway .
    A set of uk number plates , double sided tape .
    A clear lunchbox with a few wires & play dough .
    And a phone call to the Garda saying their was a suspicious car abandoned , done the trick .

    Your acquaintance is a sheer and utter idiot.

    Yes he is
    Cut his fingers off a few weeks ago trying to fix an angle grinder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,662 ✭✭✭pah


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Perhaps someone could explain how putting a car on someone else's property is ok but putting sellotape on the car is not?

    Criminal Damage Act 1991
    to damage” includes—

    in relation to property other than data (but including a storage medium in which data are kept), to destroy, deface, dismantle or, whether temporarily or otherwise, render inoperable or unfit for use or prevent or impair the operation of,
    2.—(1) A person who without lawful excuse damages any property belonging to another intending to damage any such property or being reckless as to whether any such property would be damaged shall be guilty of an offence.

    (2) A person who without lawful excuse damages any property, whether belonging to himself or another—

    (a) intending to damage any property or being reckless as to whether any property would be damaged,

    If I knew where you lived and came to your house and stuck the aforementioned stickers on your gate, wall and windows and then went on to tag the gable end of your house with a big red can of paint "serial parking offender" do you think that would constitute criminal damage?

    The OP's example is just on a lesser scale.

    What right has this guy to just go sticking and sellotaping things all over the car??:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    pah wrote: »
    Criminal Damage Act 1991





    If I knew where you lived and came to your house and stuck the aforementioned stickers on your gate, wall and windows and then went on to tag the gable end of your house with a big red can of paint "serial parking offender" do you think that would constitute criminal damage?

    The OP's example is just on a lesser scale.

    What right has this guy to just go sticking and sellotaping things all over the car??:mad:
    You haven't answered my question. Why is it ok to leave a car on someone else's property, but not to leave sellotape on the car?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭Elvis_Presley


    i find attaching the note with a hammer is far more effective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    goz83 wrote: »
    But if you have to drive home with reduced visibility, that's surely more of a hazard than parking close to double yellows. I'd park there again and keep watch and when you see Mr Sellotape, beat the crap out of him and sellotape him to a tree full of birds. ;)
    Reduced visability?
    If you can't take it off there and then, drive home with the window down. Reduced visibility not an issue.
    Alternatively don't get into the position where someone would feel the need to do this to your car.

    A clamp is far more dangerous by the way, try driving home with one on and you'll see.......... (sarcasm)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,662 ✭✭✭pah


    Anan1 wrote: »
    You haven't answered my question. Why is it ok to leave a car on someone else's property, but not to leave sellotape on the car?

    Oranges and Apples.

    It's not ok.

    Obstruction
    Prohibition of obstruction of traffic.

    98.—(1) A person shall not do any act (whether of commission or omission) which causes or is likely to cause traffic through any public place to be obstructed.

    (2) A person who contravenes subsection (1) of this section shall be guilty of an offence.

    (3) Where a person is charged with an offence under this section, it shall be a good defence to the charge for him to show that there was lawful authority for the act complained of or that it was due to unavoidable accident.


    The OP was not on someone elses property. He was in this persons opinion "a hazard" if the person felt so strongly - call the Gardaí. If it's an offence on double yellow lines he'll get a ticket if it's a genuine hazard it will be towed.

    Goody-2-shoes self appointed law enforcers - go f**k yourselves, if i caught someone doing that to my car, I would be making a complaint of criminal damage. If they were stubborn and refused to acknowledge it (hopefully) they'd probably spend a few hours in the local garda station.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    pah wrote: »
    Oranges and Apples.

    It's not ok.

    Obstruction
    You still haven't answered my question.



    pah wrote: »
    The OP was not on someone elses property.
    Do you know this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 714 ✭✭✭PlainP


    http://youparklikeanasshole.com/

    This site lets you download and print off notices for offending cars parked where they shouldn't be.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭Please Kill Me


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    They're usually put there by management company, car park owners etc. you'd need a blade and winolene to gt them off, they're very sticky.
    markc1184 wrote: »
    Heat it up with a hair dryer first and it makes it a lot easier to get off.

    Believe it or not, WD-40 is great for taking off stickers. Spray it on and leave it soak for a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,662 ✭✭✭pah


    Anan1 wrote: »
    You still haven't answered my question.

    I'm not sure what you want me to say???? You ask why is it ok to park on someone elses property but not to put sellotape on a car. The fact that I believe that neither is ok means that I can never answer your question. :confused:

    Anan1 wrote: »
    Do you know this?

    The OP says he parked on double yellows at work and the sign said it was a hazard. I am taking a little jump in saying that he was not on someone elses property as if he was on double yellows then no-one should be parking there. I've never met anyone who owned a set of double yellow lines, but there's a first time for everything :D.

    You seem very certain that he WAS on someones property, how do you know?? Are you the mystery sellotaper?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    pah wrote: »
    I'm not sure what you want me to say???? You ask why is it ok to park on someone elses property but not to put sellotape on a car. The fact that I believe that neither is ok means that I can never answer your question. :confused:
    If you don't think it's ok to leave your car on someone else's property without permission then you're unlikely to be finding sellotape on the windows.


    pah wrote: »
    The OP says he parked on double yellows at work and the sign said it was a hazard. I am taking a little jump in saying that he was not on someone elses property as if he was on double yellows then no-one should be parking there. I've never met anyone who owned a set of double yellow lines, but there's a first time for everything :D.
    'Parked at work' to me implies that he was parked in a privately owned car park.
    pah wrote: »
    You seem very certain that he WAS on someones property, how do you know?? Are you the mystery sellotaper?
    Are you the OP?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    Thing is people's definition of "offending vehicle" can vary

    How many times have you heard people quote "the law" when they've no clue what they're on about, the person they're lecturing isn't in any way shape or form breaking a law etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭martyboy48


    I've had this done to me while parked legally. Was pissed off and vowed to return to park there again to see who did it... I never did though, but some day maybe when I'm bored I'll return :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭Larsso30


    a sticker is a lot nicer than finding a clamp on your wheel.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    I was parked in a university, in a place where its not marked for parking but there is no signs to say not too......:rolleyes:

    To be honest I'm looking for peoples opinion on placing them on the driver side window......why not the back seat side windows

    I think its putting someone at risk, if they can't remove it, you don't exactly have the tools to hand in a car park.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    pah wrote: »
    I'm not sure what you want me to say???? You ask why is it ok to park on someone elses property but not to put sellotape on a car. The fact that I believe that neither is ok means that I can never answer your question. :confused:




    The OP says he parked on double yellows at work and the sign said it was a hazard. I am taking a little jump in saying that he was not on someone elses property as if he was on double yellows then no-one should be parking there. I've never met anyone who owned a set of double yellow lines, but there's a first time for everything[

    Eh.....no I didn't


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Doom wrote: »
    I was parked in a university, in a place where its not marked for parking but there is no signs to say not too......:rolleyes:

    To be honest I'm looking for peoples opinion on placing them on the driver side window......why not the back seat side windows

    I think its putting someone at risk, if they can't remove it, you don't exactly have the tools to hand in a car park.

    Fock sake .. its so you see it and its annoying.

    If they put it on the back seat side windows then that would be convenient and you could just forget about it until later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Doom wrote: »
    I was parked in a university, in a place where its not marked for parking but there is no signs to say not too......:rolleyes:

    To be honest I'm looking for peoples opinion on placing them on the driver side window......why not the back seat side windows

    I think its putting someone at risk, if they can't remove it, you don't exactly have the tools to hand in a car park.
    Sticking something on the windscreen of a stationary car is not putting anyone at risk, but your decision to drive the car without removing them might be. As has already been said, the idea is to put you off parking where they don't want you to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    How come when they put "their" sticker on your car that is deliberately very hard to remove, it's your problem and you have to try and scrape it off......but when they put "their" clamp on your car you supposedly are not allowed to touch it or attempt to remove it ?;)
    In other words the Sticker becomes your property, but the clamp apparently does not.:confused:

    Not including the Dublin City Council clampers obviously.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,662 ✭✭✭pah


    DarkJager wrote: »
    It was my first day in a new job and I had incorrectly parked near to, but not on a double yellow line. I went out on lunch at 1pm and found a handwritten note calling my parking a "hazard" sellotaped to the drivers side of my windscreen. Not only that, but the bastard who put it there also decided to stick 9 pieces of Sellotape randomly around the drivers side too.

    It was fairly warm out and they must have been there a while because I literally could not take them off, just the top half separating and leaving the glue on the windscreen. Took 2 washes with a power washer to remove, after taking the drive home, on a motorway with about 50% visibilty of the road. I still haven't found who was responsible but I suspect he works nearby. If I ever catch him in the act, I will literally kick that Sellotape roll up his imbecilic arse.
    i mistakenly took this post as being by OP, hard ON THE flippin mobile


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    mgbgt1978 wrote: »
    How come when they put "their" sticker on your car that is deliberately very hard to remove, it's your problem and you have to try and scrape it off......but when they put "their" clamp on your car you supposedly are not allowed to touch it or attempt to remove it ?;)
    In other words the Sticker becomes your property, but the clamp apparently does not.:confused:

    Not including the Dublin City Council clampers obviously.....

    Because the clamp is re-usable, a sticker is a consumable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    Re-usable....Not the clamps that get left on my car :D:D:D

    And my point was that their sticker becomes your property/problem while the clamp somehow remains their property. They can't have it both ways...i.e. one item can be attached to your car and becomes your property, while a different item can be attached to the same car and remain their property. Consumable or not I did not buy the sticker or the clamp, so why is one my problem when it comes to removal while the other is untouchable (under pain of death, or somesuch nonsense) ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    mgbgt1978 wrote: »
    Consumable or not I did not buy the sticker or the clamp, so why is one my problem when it comes to removal while the other is untouchable (under pain of death, or somesuch nonsense) ?
    Because life can be capricious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    That's all folks, this thread has come to that inevitable point where no good can come of it.


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