HIGH BIRDS AND BAD SHOOTERS

Duckhunter666

lads i have read alot of the forums the last few nights and there seems to be alot of ranting going on about people shooting at high birds and not hitting them , now unless im mistaken , the only reason anyone can be sure this takes place is if there out with people who do this , makes sense to say it to them and tell them there fcuking muppets maybe . anyone shooting at Birds knowing all they will do is injure them and not drop them for a safe retrieve really shouldnt be shooting .AND BEFORE ANYONE GETS ON THERE HIGH HORSE I MEAN LONG DISTANCE SHOTS

sikahuntejack

I have to say i love shooting high ducks i used 36g catridges all the time for ducks 1 high bird is as good as 2 ducks being shot on the water or from 20 feet away when i drop a high duck i know my dog has to make a good retrieve to find the duck i shot a pond last night that had being shot sat and sunday night i had a good evening fireing at the high ducks that kept flying around 50-60 feet up dropped to ducks into a field of corn way behind the pond dog had to work well to find them

deeksofdoom

Duckhunter666 wrote: »

lads i have read alot of the forums the last few nights and there seems to be alot of ranting going on about people shooting at high birds and not hitting them , now unless im mistaken , the only reason anyone can be sure this takes place is if there out with people who do this , makes sense to say it to them and tell them there fcuking muppets maybe . anyone shooting at Birds knowing all they will do is injure them and not drop them for a safe retrieve really shouldnt be shooting .AND BEFORE ANYONE GETS ON THERE HIGH HORSE I MEAN LONG DISTANCE SHOTS

People shoot at birds and miss them all the time :rolleyes: so what? and if you have a dog that won't retrieve an injured bird its time you got a new one.

sikahuntejack

deeksofdoom wrote: »

People shoot at birds and miss them all the time :rolleyes: so what? and if you have a dog that won't retrieve an injured bird its time you got a new one.

Well said people pay big money to shoot at high birds on shoots im happy doing it for free

Duckhunter666

dont think either of you are getting what im saying . its not about how good your shooting is its about people going out who cant shoot for **** and doing more harm than good . firing at birds that you have more chance of hitting with a plane

deeksofdoom

sikahuntejack wrote: »

Well said people pay big money to shoot at high birds on shoots im happy doing it for free

There is no pleasure in shooting low birds.

sikahuntejack

I see what you mean now your talking about lads fireing at out of range birds that anoys the bollox out of me too, a high bird to me is a bird that you have to be on the ball to hit but is in the dropping range i have seen lads fireing at ducks that looked like dots in the sky fools they are every sport has them

Duckhunter666

couldnt agree more

pointerman

People should know their range when out shooting its very disapointing seeing lads who only come to shoot at birds from all distances and angles and not realising that all there doing is driving the birds from the area.

This all as happened over the pass few years where I hunt and in a space of a few weeks when the wigeon arrive in late October my hunting area can be over shot from lads who fire at least 4 shots to high at duck in big flocks. Its destroys the shooting for the rest of the people who have a bit of respect for their qurray.

deeksofdoom

man fly wrote: »

I shoot for the pot and to make money from selling game. I would always take a low flying than take an impossible high shot.

Your shooting out of necessity so, because your poor and starving, Faaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnntastic.

terminator2

man fly wrote: »

I shoot for the pot and to make money from selling game. I would always take a low flying than take an impossible high shot.

i like shooting high birds as well , shooting game for profit i cant stand

J. Ramone

There is a fine line between a high bird and an out of range bird. Whether you're a good or a bad shot, taking a pop at an out of range bird is just reckless in my view and can only mean the shooter has little regard for the welfare of his quarry. On target and out of range means pricked which results in either painful recovery or slow death for the bird.

I think most will agree, a sporting shot is not too close, challenging (fast or twisting or both) and within range.

I guess the high bird hype is a factor of driven shooting where the only way to make tame birds challenging is to put them high enough above the guns.

wildfowler94

The effective range of a shotgun no matter what the load is 50 yards anything further and you have no respect for your quarry! anyone frequently wounding or pricking birds should really rethink there timing and shot taking. any injured birds should be dispatched humanely asap.

Dalken

terminator2 wrote: »

i like shooting high birds as well , shooting game for profit i cant stand

Well said there Terminator2..It's a sport for most of us afterall and not a business, you hit a few you miss a few, have a good dog and know your limits and that of ur gun and shells.

dodderangler

You know what I hate
BAD BIRDS and HIGH SHOOTERS!

TriggerPL

dodderangler wrote: »

You know what I hate
BAD BIRDS and HIGH SHOOTERS!

Ya or shooting high bad birds ! Me I just hit the missus high and low !

Browning2010

It's all about knowing your range, no point in firing at something 60 yards away all your doing is scaring them.

Anything from 10-50 yards is worth a go in my opinion, if I get them I get them if I don't I don't, simple as.

deeksofdoom

man fly wrote: »

So owner's/gamekeepers of driven estates are doing it for free:rolleyes:

When you say that you shoot for profit what are you shooting, wild/migratory birds?

owelfisherman

Duckhunter666 wrote: »

lads i have read alot of the forums the last few nights and there seems to be alot of ranting going on about people shooting at high birds and not hitting them , now unless im mistaken , the only reason anyone can be sure this takes place is if there out with people who do this , makes sense to say it to them and tell them there fcuking muppets maybe . anyone shooting at Birds knowing all they will do is injure them and not drop them for a safe retrieve really shouldnt be shooting .AND BEFORE ANYONE GETS ON THERE HIGH HORSE I MEAN LONG DISTANCE SHOTS

m8 i dont really agree.the aim on a driven shoot is to get the birds flying high.you could pay thousands for a shoot with good high-flying birds in the u.k

terminator2

man fly wrote: »

So owner's/gamekeepers of driven estates are doing it for free:rolleyes:

they are running a business therefore they are rearing and releasing thousands of phesants and ducks , you have to speculate to accumulate

Duckhunter666

Its all about. The hunt lads the shooting and the enjoyment of it days shooting weather you get a bird or not

dodderangler

TriggerPL wrote: »

dodderangler wrote: »

You know what I hate
BAD BIRDS and HIGH SHOOTERS!

Ya or shooting high bad birds ! Me I just hit the missus high and low !

Ha lol

Why are these birds high anyway?
What are they smoking that's making them high?

Dalken

Anyone have any experience of Hull Cartridges? What are they like in 36g 4 and 32g 6 does anyone know? Your man in Laois sells them and Im inclined to buy off him.
Time to load up for the new season and finding the Eley are getting way to pricey.

man fly

deeksofdoom wrote: »

When you say that you shoot for profit what are you shooting, wild/migratory birds?

Mainly curlew (easiest to shoot), Red Grouse, Mallard, Greylags, pheasants,and tufties.

wildfowler94

man fly wrote: »

Mainly curlew (easiest to shoot), Red Grouse, Mallard, Greylags, pheasants,and tufties.

You sir are no decent shooter I mean red grouse are getting rare and curlews are worse. :mad:

deeksofdoom

man fly wrote: »

Mainly curlew (easiest to shoot), Red Grouse, Mallard, Greylags, pheasants,and tufties.

Shooting migratory birds for profit is a disgrace.

J. Ramone

man fly wrote: »

Mainly curlew (easiest to shoot), Red Grouse, Mallard, Greylags, pheasants,and tufties.

Hmm, where does one sell curlew these days?

Dalken

J. Ramone wrote: »

Hmm, where does one sell curlew these days?

The Japs go mad for Curlew... F***in Delish!!:pac: