Non tinfoil hat wearing take on the idea of a NWO

blatantrereg

It's common knowledge that corporations often influence governments for their own agendas. They may employ lobbyists to push policies that assist their business. They may offer funding to candidates who support their agendas. In some cases they even just bribe officials.

One rather plausible concept of a NWO is that rather than acting independently, or joining together to push specific issues, corporations might organise themselves and combine their power to exert greater influenceover affairs in general. The Trilateral Commission might be considered such an organisation. It is made up of distinguished corporate figures from the USA, Europe and Japan. It plainly states its purpose as being political in nature [primarily improving cooperation between governments and regions].

The clout of that organisation must be very considerable. It is noteworthy that Mario Monti is the European chairperson of it. Monti was appointed the unelected prime minister of Italy a week after being made senator for life there. He has appointed a technocratic cabinet composed entirely of unelected professionals. He has also openly spoken against democracy.

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If governments allow themselves to be entirely bound to the decisions of their parliament, without protecting their own freedom to act, a break up of Europe would be a more probable outcome than deeper integration.

I'm not commenting one way or another on the motives or morality of this. In fact, thinking about those things distract from clear analysis of the idea. Considering those aspects seem to lead to hysterical comments and talk of shapeshifting aliens or whatever. I'd like this discussion to avoid that, and stay out of the CT forum too. Incidentally, I haven't presented any eveidence here that such an entity is actually malign.

There is certainly evidence here though that a technocratic/plutocratic organisation has very great influence over the affairs of nations and international affairs.

Torakx

Is this a troll thread? Im confused lol
The trilateral commision is well known around these parts.
Just because one of two threads are a bit "out there" doesnt mean the rest are tin foil wearing progenies.
The majority are fiarly well grounded and even those that seem over the top have some truth to them if you know where to look

Anniemcl are you on a rampage for a ban or something?
Who cares what athiests or creationists think.Agnosticism is where its at ;D
Never say never...to anything.

blatantrereg

Torakx wrote: »

Is this a troll thread? Im confused lol
The trilateral commision is well known around these parts.
Just because one of two threads are a bit "out there" doesnt mean the rest are tin foil wearing progenies.
The majority are fiarly well grounded and even those that seem over the top have some truth to them if you know where to look

Anniemcl are you on a rampage for a ban or something?
Who cares what athiests or creationists think.Agnosticism is where its at ;D
Never say never...to anything.

I wrote it for an AH audience, but that was not to be: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056741036

I haven't read too much on this forum, but I guessed this sort of stuff wouldn't be news to any regulars on it alright. My post was intended to engage people who dismiss such ideas as being in the same category as lizard men and tinfoil hats etc.

Torakx

blatantrereg wrote: »

I wrote it for an AH audience, but that was not to be: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056741036

I haven't read too much on this forum, but I guessed this sort of stuff wouldn't be news to any regulars on it alright. My post was intended to engage people who dismiss such ideas as being in the same category as lizard men and tinfoil hats etc.

Oh i see thanks for clearing that up.
Because of recent posts at 3-4am between u and mister troll i wasnt sure if you were involved too sorry!

Welcome to conspiracy theories!
Unfortunately what your saying is against the grain and so you have been put in the garbage disposal with the rest of us haha

I tried a similar thing in the economics forums over fractional reserve banking and did not get a happy response
It went round in circles where i asked why the fraction must be so unbelievably high for lending and i got no response only that i dont understand lol
But no answer to that one either.Its the crux of that issue im sure.

Back on topic.

From your link posted in the op.
http://www.businessinsider.com/monti-blasts-democracy-2012-8

Monti's statement is noxious in modern democratic society, but he's also stating a real fact that in times of crisis, the will of the people can be at loggerheads with what it takes to rescue the existing system.

I would say the system they are trying to maintain is irrevocably corrupt.
So when gangsters and thieves etc start to lose their bread winner they will lash out.

I mean who wants a government apparently designed to do the will of the people to ...do the will of the people.
Crtainly not the guys runnig the show and lets be honest, the guys running the show are not the lackies and honest people in parliament.

Its the elite bussiness men and their families controlling legislation through umbrella companies,politicians etc.

The Lizard theories are not fully subscribed to on these forums, that would only be a very very small percentage here.
However it is quite clear that a majority of these bussiness men are involved in masonic groups or similar types of organisations.
If not for religious reasons(i doubt it) then surely for bussiness contacts and alliances.

Its obvious to me, but the public in general are under a propoganda campaign to associate people who focus on these semi secret groups with as you mentioned, tin foil hats and lizard men.

I think this was possible because open minded people tend to be just that.
And so it was easy to make these associations for the use of confusing the matter and hiding the truth of whats going on.

Try mentioning freemasons in any place but here as a thread topic and i will see you back here in 24 hours

Apparently their not real(sarcasm) and any talk of their business will get you dumped into the "garbage" as i mentioned.