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A dust free world ha ha

  • 28-08-2012 9:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10


    hi

    Bought a Philips hoover a few months ago for 50 euro and it is broken now. So was told that Miele vacuum cleaners are good. anyone have any thoughts on this brand?


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  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,830 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Moved from Open Source.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    They are meant to be good, but expensive.

    For the money, the Henrys are meant to be hard to beat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Henry came last in that, but it seems to get rave reviews in most of the sites I checked (likes of Argos and Amazon).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Henry came last in that, but it seems to get rave reviews in most of the sites I checked (likes of Argos and Amazon).
    Have had a henry for years, they are a great vacum , will last ages and perform well.

    Downsides are - If you have carpets i find i needed to purchase a better brush head to really clean them well.
    - Hoover Bags, a constant expense.

    Every make will have upsides and downsides and personal preference comes into it, i know people who have spent big money on dysons and say they would prefer a henry.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    We've a Miele and it is absolutely excellent.
    The filter is so good that if you put one of those Hoover bag air fresheners in, you can't smell it!!

    The high end Nilfisk vacuums are also extremely good.

    We had a dyson too but the Miele is just in a different league. Boring looking, very powerful, very quiet and does the job.

    To be honest you get what you pay for. You can't make a decent vacuum for €50.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,830 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    We've had a Miele for five years - it's as good now as the day we bought it, which is to say bloody good. Highly recommended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Just came across this now. I've been doing a good bit of research into what Vacuum to get after I've been suffering with a dust allergy recently. Filtration was a big concern but overall quality too, I guess both come together in a better quality vacuum anyway. Every allergy advice website I read recommended Miele, there was even a video on youtube where they had a lazer air checker thingymabob which checked the air quality and when they put it up to the exhaust of the miele, the meter read 0, better than it would read in the usual ambience of the room.

    Dyson do have good filtration too, but Miele is said to be much better. They use bags which further lock in any dust particles and give an extra layer of filtration and even though I was always in favour of bagless, after my reading, I'm definitely going for bagged and the exact model in particular will be the Miele S8330 Solution. It's the successor to the S5281 Solution so has all the same features but improved design etc.

    I didn't think I'd ever be spending so much on a vacuum but I can't compromise when it comes to health so I'm going to take the hit now, knowing that it will probably last for years and years.

    It seems like Harvey Norman have the best price on it at €289 here: http://www.harveynorman.ie/catalog/product/view/id/19307/s/miele-s8330/ but I'll have to double check the fact it says the cable is 6.5 meters, when it should be 11, just to make sure it's definitely the S8330 Solution model.

    The next best price I've seen is Power City, their website and description leaves a lot to be desired, just like Harvey Norman, but I believe both of these links are for the model, just different colours: http://powercity.ie/?par=40-50-094204&pages=1&prod=094204&brands=MIELE&image=
    http://powercity.ie/?par=40-50-094136&pages=1&prod=094136&brands=MIELE&image=

    Power City state they'll match any price, they also seem to be running a €50 off deal if you bring in your old vacuum, so I'm not sure if their price match would bring it to €289 and then you'd get a further €50 off for trading in your old vacuum.

    It's funny as both prices above are much better than any I've seen on UK websites. They can probably be picked up cheaper in Germany but then you'd probably pay over the odds on shipping.

    So that's the extent of what I've researched so far, I haven't bought yet but will soon. Certainly, from what I've read, Miele with a HEPA filter is best for a "dust free world" and the S8330 is amongst the best models from Miele.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    We brought a Miele back from the continent and I'd just have one tiny bit of practical advice.

    Continental appliances are identical to Irish/UK versions in every respect except for the plug. However, just be aware that Miele vacuums actually have a very powerful cord-rewind and a little kind of recessed area at the bottom where the plug sits when it's wound up.

    We fitted a large Irish plug to the end and it actually damaged the bottom of the vacuum cleaner as it was too big to fit into the recess.

    If you are buying one in Germany, just make sure you find an Irish plug that's small enough to fit into the same space that the moulded-plug occupied.

    Also, make sure you fit the cord grip very securely as you will be pulling the cable out by the plug and also when it winds up it give the plug a big of a yank too.

    You basically need to fit a rubber (unbreakable plastic) plug that's small enough to fit into that recess area. Any decent hardware shop should have one, or you might find one on something else in your house.

    The other alternative is to just buy a German / French extension lead and fit an Irish plug on the end of that. It gives you way more range when your cleaning the house anyway to have a few extra meters of cable.

    i.e. something like : http://www.rolleco.fr/fournitures-consommables/prise-rallonge-electrique/rallonge-electrique/

    Also, bear in mind that the French-style sockets are shuttered and child safe like Ireland/UK, German ones aren't necessarily so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Hey folks, I was going to suggest a friend to get the s8330 but have since learned it's been taken off the market as the EU imposed a limit on how powerful vacuum cleaners can be :o

    Would anyone know a similarly good one available now with equal build quality, hepa filter etc?

    The friend has dogs too so anything for dog hair would be great too, hepa and dog hair would be brilliant :)


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  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,830 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    cormie wrote: »
    ...the EU imposed a limit on how powerful vacuum cleaners can be

    Eh, no. That's a Daily Mail-esque Euromyth. The EU has imposed a limit on how energy efficient vacuum cleaners have to be. They can be as powerful as you like, once they meet the efficiency standards.

    Just sayin'.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Eh, no. That's a Daily Mail-esque Euromyth. The EU has imposed a limit on how energy efficient vacuum cleaners have to be. They can be as powerful as you like, once they meet the efficiency standards.

    Just sayin'.
    Just to back that up..
    https://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/tidying-up-the-facts-on-eu-vacuum-cleaner-rules/

    1) There is NO ban on vacuum cleaners that suck powerfully. The ban is on cleaners that use too much energy and/or are not energy efficient. The new rules include requirements for performance in picking up dust, on noise, on the amount of dust escaping from the cleaner (important for asthma sufferers) and on the durability of components.

    2) It is perfectly possible to have high-performance vacuum cleaners which are energy efficient. As “Which?” magazine (see below) itself makes clear, some of the models on its best buy list already conform to the new rules.

    3) Obviously more energy efficient appliances are good for consumers, who will have reduced energy bills and in this case quieter vacuum cleaners into the bargain. The new labelling system will help them make informed choices.

    4) The new rules are based on a tried and tested approach which has already delivered results for all sorts of other appliances and made life easier and cheaper for consumers. A similar labelling system was introduced for fridges and freezers 20 years ago. They now use only one-third of the electricity they did then. Two years after regulations were introduced for television sets, 70% of those on the market were in the top class for energy efficiency.

    5) Markets alone won’t make improvements in energy efficiency happen, at least not quickly. Innovation often needs to be given a push. Business wants certainty over the rules and to be sure that competitors will not be able to steal a short-term advantage by continuing to produce and market inefficient appliances.

    6) The above might be one reason why most vacuum cleaner manufacturers supported the new rules when the industry was (extensively) consulted. The UK government also supported the rules- Member States could have blocked them had they wished

    7) Lower household energy use also means lower emissions, helps tackle climate change and is a contribution to Europe being less dependent on energy imported from Russia and the Middle East.

    8) As we pointed out last year, studies have shown that more efficient vacuum cleaners would save 19 terawatt hours (TWh) of energy annually in the EU by 2020. As a comparison, that amount of energy would keep the London Underground running for up to twenty years.

    9) The system for vacuum cleaners will not be “self-regulating” as “Which?” claimed and other media repeated: national authorities will check that labels correspond to reality.

    10) Given that the EU labelling system is not rating overall performance but only one aspect of it – energy efficiency – it is not surprising that EU ratings do not give the same results as “Which?’s” more general ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,844 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Aha! well that's much much better and I'm actually in full support of such things as I hate wasteful usage, producing products that aren't suitable for their purpose.

    If anyone has any suggestions like the S8330 abovetoday for one that would be possible to get now it would be great :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    “There is no need to do any housework at all. After the first four years the dirt doesn't get any worse.”

    - Quentin Crisp

    :)


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