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FTA Satellite TV for 20 apartments.

  • 27-08-2012 11:25am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23


    Hello,
    How would I go about installing free to air satellite tv in an apartment block of 20 apartments? I am not an expert in this field but wish to learn. Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Are you an installer that has never installed an apartment block?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭zg3409


    I see you are!
    http://www.fme.ie/

    So basically I assume you are looking for a step by step installers guide.

    Firstly you need buy in from apartment block and residents. Then you need a clear specification of what they need installed. Then you need a survey of what existing cabling is installed and how difficult it will be to install new cabling.

    Normally the way it works is you use one dish larger than a normal dish. This allows a very strong signal to be at the "head" of the system. In the past this dish needed to have a quattro LNB (as opposed to a quad LNB). Normally you align the (commercial quality) dish very carefully using a normal LNB then swap it for a quattro. The 4 cables from the quattro feed into a multiswitch. This then splits one cable per receiver (2 for recording receivers).

    However in practical terms you probably don't want one multiswitch with 30 outputs and to feed everyone seperately from the roof to the apartments.

    Normally 4 cables feed down the block and one multiswitch is located on each floor or area. This reduces the number of cables needed to be ran.

    It is VERY important you use the BEST cable (copper screen, copper foil, copper core, branded) as runs end up very long. Also earthing needs to be factored in. I think basically every lead needs to be earthed.

    You also need test equipment to measure the levels at each point. Too strong and receivers and amplifiers get overloaded, too weak and no amount of amplification can bring it back.

    See here:
    http://www.dipolnet.com/pass-through_multiswitch_system_in_apartment_building_for_one_satellite__schemat210.htm

    More options here:
    http://www.dipolnet.com/examples_of_antenna_systems_-_fm-tv_sat_tv_wlan_gsm_schematy.htm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 350 ✭✭Cesium Clock


    Also consider using a fibre optic system,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭Extinction


    Copper multiswitch systems can give too much trouble anyway and unless you know what you are doing you can run into a lot of trouble with amplification, fiber optic makes more sense for obvious reasons. I also wouldn't advise using a quad to line up a dish and then swap for a quatro. Your meter should have individual polarity readings for alignment of a quatro. It would be better to seek out some training on system installations. After all you wouldn't expect an aerial installer to think he could find out how to wire a house for electricity on a public forum would you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭zg3409


    At what point is a fibre system better value? I thought fibre was only cost effective for larger than 20 apartments?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭Extinction


    Fiber has come down a lot in price, almost equal to a copper system. It also is much less time consuming to install and a single 3mm cable to an apartment can give up to eight feeds so no theres no need to be running unsightly copper cables everywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 frankmulveen


    Thanks for your help zg3409.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 frankmulveen


    Hi Extinction,
    Yes it is my intention to seek out some training. Have you any recommendations where I could get same?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭Extinction


    Distance learning course in smatv and irs systems with cai.org.uk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭swedex


    Sorry for piggybacking the thread, would a fibre system be excessive for a domestic house?

    I'm soon going to start renovating and am possibly going to have tv points anywhere there is a remote chance of a tv being there. More that an octo could manage for example.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭Extinction


    A copper multiswitch system would be more cost efficient for a house if you want more than 8 feeds from the dish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    swedex wrote: »
    possibly going to have tv points anywhere there is a remote chance of a tv being there. More that an octo could manage for example.

    Quattro LNB and 12 or 16 output mulltiswitch would be another option to distribute terrestrial and satellite signals around the house to more than 8 TV points.


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