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Extension of planning permission

  • 27-08-2012 9:27am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭


    Original planning permission for a demolition and new build expires in Apr 2013.

    No works have started, but can make a strong case for "material changes in economic conditions" to apply for an extension.

    Has anyone gone through this process?

    Is this something that is best handled by an architect, solicitor or something that can be done by a private individual?

    cheers...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Izoard wrote: »
    Original planning permission for a demolition and new build expires in Apr 2013.

    No works have started, but can make a strong case for "material changes in economic conditions" to apply for an extension.

    Has anyone gone through this process?

    If there is an on-site septic tank or treatment system as part of the overall development proposal you will need to make sure the original planning permission had a site suitability assesment carried out in compliance with the EPA's code of practice, and not the EPA's technical guidance document or SR6 document.

    Otherwise you will need a separate permission in place for an upgraded treatment system before you can go about extending the original planning permission.

    Izoard wrote: »
    Is this something that is best handled by an architect, solicitor or something that can be done by a private individual?

    cheers...
    It doesn't have to be carried out by a professional but you would be best advised to have it done that way, given the possible complexities and time restrictions involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭Izoard


    If there is an on-site septic tank or treatment system as part of the overall development proposal you will need to make sure the original planning permission had a site suitability assesment carried out in compliance with the EPA's code of practice, and not the EPA's technical guidance document or SR6 document.

    Otherwise you will need a separate permission in place for an upgraded treatment system before you can go about extending the original planning permission.


    It doesn't have to be carried out by a professional but you would be best advised to have it done that way, given the possible complexities and time restrictions involved.

    Thanks - site is in Dundrum, Dublin, so connecting to sewage mains.

    Given the other potential changes in planning requirements (original grant in '08), is it better to;
    a)complete the form for the extension, submit to DLRCC, and let them come back with the revised list of things to work on with an architect?
    b) enage the architect up front?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Izoard wrote: »
    Thanks - site is in Dundrum, Dublin, so connecting to sewage mains.

    Given the other potential changes in planning requirements (original grant in '08), is it better to;
    a)complete the form for the extension, submit to DLRCC, and let them come back with the revised list of things to work on with an architect?
    b) enage the architect up front?

    There shouldn't be anything else, just fill the form and submit with the fee.


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Izoard wrote: »
    Thanks - site is in Dundrum, Dublin, so connecting to sewage mains.

    Given the other potential changes in planning requirements (original grant in '08), is it better to;
    a)complete the form for the extension, submit to DLRCC, and let them come back with the revised list of things to work on with an architect?
    b) enage the architect up front?

    i would engage an architect up front as an application at this stage may be a waste of precious time.

    As the original permission was granted in '08, and a quick check shows that the DLRD development plan changed in '10, its quite possible that an extension of permission may not be readily achievable.

    If ANYTHING concerning the site has changed from the previous development plan, then the council cannot grant an extension. This could be something like:
    • the areas zoning changing
    • now in architectural heritage area
    • new flooding policies + suds
    • appropriate assessment may now be applicable
    • or anything else which is new to the plan and concerns your site
    The best course of action i would suggest is to arrange a preplanning meet and attend with an architect (familiar with the area and development plan). Ask the planner if there are any significant changes to the policies with affect your site... if no is the answer then id fire away with an application to extend.


    an alternative course of action which you could take would be to get the build to blockwork complete stage prior to your planning expiring, and the making an application (prior to expiry of original permission) to extend the duration of the original application in order to complete the build. Taking this course means that you are not subject to changes in the development plan, and are not at risk of a full refusal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭Izoard


    OK - thanks for the steer.


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