NCT and fog lights.

Steve

More specifically, front fog lights.

Do they care? do they have to work?

Case in point.. one of my front fogs and indicator got damaged. They're separate lights on the font bumper - as in not part of a combined fitting.

I fixed the indicator and removed the fog light as the bracket that holds it is in bad shape and the light was pointing too high. I also removed the fuse for them so the surviving one on the other side doesn't work either.

Any ideas if this will fail the NCT?

I know if I remove both fogs then it'll pass as there is no requirement to actually have fog lights but it's a pita to get at the other one.

Thoughts?

colm_mcm

As long as there aren't any jagged edges or broken lenses you'll be fine.

Wheelnut

I'm open to correction but I think there's something about front fog light focus coming in and I was wondering along the same lines. Could I get through the test by removing the fuses for the fog lights? It's not mandatory to have them and if they're not working they can't be tested.

Steve

colm_mcm wrote: »

As long as there aren't any jagged edges or broken lenses you'll be fine.

No, nothing like that - just a pretty obvious hole where the nearside fog should be..

Thanks.

btw, she's 15 this year.

justbored

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Steve

It seems the rules were revised again in May.

From what I can make out, front fog lamps are deemed to be 'auxiliary lamps' covered by section 32.

Good news:

NOTES
1. Where auxiliary lamps are found to be inoperative, this should not be considered a reason for failure.

Does that mean I'm covered by taking the fuse out?? It seems so.

I'm actually more concerned now having read section 30 as revised April 2012:

NOTES
4. HID headlamps must be installed as a complete type-approved system. The system will include automatic cleaning. HID headlamps can be recognised by:....

HID - REASONS FOR FAILURE
16 Automatic headlamp levelling device not operating or manual headlamp levelling device cannot be operated from driver’s seat.
17 Mandatory headlamp cleaning device not present.
18 Mandatory headlamp cleaning device not operating.

What in the name of Jebus is that all about?
The car has original factory fitted OEM HID's but has none of the above levelling or cleaning crap.

This can't be right?

goz83

If it didn't have all the extra crap to begin with, it can't be failed. Just like a car that had no seat belt to begin with can't be failed for this reason.

Steve

Yeah but in the case of seatbelts and other stuff (like indicator colour) they have explicit exemptions depending on the year of the car.

Here, it seems, they have just put in a blanket rule based on some jobsworth's decision as to what comprises a HID.

goz83

Steve wrote: »

Yeah but in the case of seatbelts and other stuff (like indicator colour) they have explicit exemptions depending on the year of the car.

Here, it seems, they have just put in a blanket rule based on some jobsworth's decision as to what comprises a HID.

My car had factory HID's but the boxes were corroded to bits, so i replaced them with a set i bought online. I don't expect there will be a problem with mine, so just see what happens with your factory ones.

Steve

I guess I'll just have to see what they say when I go for the test.

It it fails because of that then there's no fix available that complies with their rules.

Jonnykitedude

2 years ago failed due to broken fog light (glass was cracked) only last month fog light went just before NCT hadnt a spare....passed no problem.

coylemj

Instead of inviting uninformed speculation and reading about the experiences people had under different rules, why not get the absolute up to date and authoritative data on front auxiliary and fog lamps in section 32, page 52 here.....

http://www.nct.ie/pdf/NCT%20Manual%20Revise%20May%202012.pdf