Roundabout on the Tulla Road, Ennis

Iwannahurl

While searching for background info relating to new solar-powered digital speed limit signs on the Tulla Road in Ennis, I found this roundabout.

Are there others like it anywhere, and does it have any merits for cyclists?

nomdeboardie

Looooong discussion here about Killiney roundabout, which ended up with a similar configuration (single lane, peripheral cycle lane), but without ped crossings and what seem to be off-road cycle tracks(?) in your link

Update: Had a 'virtual drive around" the Streetview - wow, that's one complex beast. Looks like the off-road (on pavement) cycle bits are there as an alternative to the on-road ring (for cyclists who want to formally cede priority at each junction?!). At one of the junctions the off-road connection does serve to put the cyclist onto the single off-road track that continues through the roundabout, but this could have been done more simply by having a ramp from the on-road ring to the path!

ednwireland

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Are there others like it anywhere, and does it have any merits for cyclists?

bragging rights when you trigger it

slayer91

The say a picture is worth a 1000 words and that roundabout is worth more!!!

Take away the blue sky and all you have is the typical Clare county council approach to cycle lanes, all the approach cycle lanes to the roundabout (which is really a mini roundabout with an entrance/exit to busy shopping center are narrow, never swept all year round and full of debris. Add to that the pedestrian traffic, you would want to be on high alert going through it as a cyclist.

Regs

mel.b

That roundabout is just up the road from my house. Despite the cycle lane, i treat it as any other roundabout - if i need to turn right, i position myself accordingly. I imagine following th cycle lane all around while turning right would end up with you splattered sooner or later by traffic going straight through

yer man!

Is there anything in the rules of the road about motorists and cyclists on roundabout? I did my test a 3 years ago and wasn't asked anything about coping with cyclists on the road?

Chips Lovell

You treat a cyclist on a roundabout as you would a car.

yer man!

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

You treat a cyclist on a roundabout as you would a car.

ya but in that roundabout would it not be correct for a cyclist to stay on the cycle lane all the way around regardless if he is taking the first, second or any subsequent exit? it's not correct for a car to remain on the outer edge of a roundabout for taking the 3rd or subsequent exit, is it the same rules for a bike?

Chips Lovell

yer man! wrote: »

ya but in that roundabout would it not be correct for a cyclist to stay on the cycle lane all the way around regardless if he is taking the first, second or any subsequent exit? it's not correct for a car to remain on the outer edge of a roundabout for taking the 3rd or subsequent exit, is it the same rules for a bike?

Ah OK. I was talking about normal roundabouts. On that roundabout, no, I've no idea.

As a cyclist and a motorist, I'd find that roundabout confusing, pointless, and possibly dangerous.

yer man!

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

Ah OK. I was talking about normal roundabouts. On that roundabout, no, I've no idea.

As a cyclist and a motorist, I'd find that roundabout confusing, pointless, and possibly dangerous.

Well seeing as the vast majority of irish motorists (or 85% of Galway motorists) want to feel like a rebel on a roundabout and refuse to use correct lanes or turning signals, ireland isn't ready for this roundabout, as far as I know this roundabout is a European standard motorist/cyclist junction. They're all over the Netherlands and Germany, of course motorists there understand how roundabouts work.

Chips Lovell

I agree with you there. Even on normal roundabouts, Irish motorists are particularly poor. No signals or proper lane usage. And a surprising number seem to think that it's OK to overtake someone on a roundabout, just because they're on a bike.

mel.b

One thing i was wondering about this roundabout is, is it illegal to stop in a roundabout in Ireland? know it is in Australia and we had similar roundabouts with the pedastrian crossings. What do you do - you have to stop in the roundabout for the pedastrians, but stopping in a roundabout is illegal. The roundabouts at home had the pedastrian crossings removed shorty after they were installed when this was mentioned to the bright sparks (aka local council) who installed them in the first place.

monument

Iwannahurl wrote: »

this roundabout.

That's the two-tier system for cyclists gone mad! ...Two-tier system for cyclists = providing low quality off and on road solutions for cyclists and letting them choice.

EDIT: Just having another look on Street View: Those are zebra crossing so pedestrians have a strong right of way, but cyclist should not be using them and with the off road tracks the cycle track signs have "please dismount" under them.

Also, just looking at some of the nearby cycle tracks at footpath level -- some dreadful stuff. It's sad how much of it has been built in the last ten years.