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The Old Stand

  • 24-08-2012 12:48pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭


    Work underway in the Old Stand. Great to see something happening there, Anything is better than a empty building. Love to see a pub open there but I would say thats unlikely.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    jad2007 wrote: »
    Work underway in the Old Stand. Great to see something happening there, Anything is better than a empty building. Love to see a pub open there but I would say thats unlikely.


    I heard Anthony Heffernan(owner of the golden vale) bought that, any truth in that ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    jad2007 wrote: »
    Work underway in the Old Stand. Great to see something happening there, Anything is better than a empty building. Love to see a pub open there but I would say thats unlikely.


    Would love to see something happen there, i hope they arent just messing around with the hoarding. would make a great shop but no shop/store is going to pay for renovation, they want new big floor space to move into with minimum fuss.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Partizan


    I'd say its just building maintenance to secure the structure which also involves work on the hoarding. There will be nothing going in there for a while yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    Partizan wrote: »
    I'd say its just building maintenance to secure the structure which also involves work on the hoarding. There will be nothing going in there for a while yet.

    You're probably right of course, but do you know that for sure?

    I guess we'd probably have seen a planning application if anything was happening. I skim them and didn't see anything, but I could easily have missed something related to this premises...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Partizan


    fricatus wrote: »
    You're probably right of course, but do you know that for sure?

    I guess we'd probably have seen a planning application if anything was happening. I skim them and didn't see anything, but I could easily have missed something related to this premises...

    I passed by there recently and didn't see one although I think there was planning permission at one stage there for apartments. Not 100% sure.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    So it's def not Flash's next project? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭jad2007


    amazing how quickly this thread went from positive to neagtive,

    "ah sure they are probably just fixing the hoarding".

    Speaking as one who has actually seen the building today, they are working inside. Not on the hoarding. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    jad2007 wrote: »
    amazing how quickly this thread went from positive to neagtive,

    "ah sure they are probably just fixing the hoarding".

    Speaking as one who has actually seen the building today, they are working inside. Not on the hoarding. :)


    Well in fairness, the hoarding does need fixing and we have had a lot of false dawns recently with proposed developments and shops never materialising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭Nas10


    I know one of the lads that bricked it up on all downstairs doors and windows, having seen it today myself those bricks have been cut out to allow access


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭libra02


    The only planning permission for broad street is for 13 Broad Street - a protected structure.

    So that could be it and conditional permission has been granted for a new shopfront to be constructed and all associated works.

    Other than that I do not think there is any other planning pplications.

    Mind you looking at the amount of weeds and plants growing out of the upstairs windows maybe it was in danger of fallling down and work had to be done to keep it safe?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭gscully


    libra02 wrote: »
    The only planning permission for broad street is for 13 Broad Street - a protected structure.

    So that could be it and conditional permission has been granted for a new shopfront to be constructed and all associated works.

    Other than that I do not think there is any other planning pplications.

    Mind you looking at the amount of weeds and plants growing out of the upstairs windows maybe it was in danger of fallling down and work had to be done to keep it safe?

    The Old Stand is on Michael St.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭libra02


    gscully wrote: »
    The Old Stand is on Michael St.


    :o

    Oops I am always thinking there is Broad Street instead of Michael Street.

    Say it is just maintenance work so. Needed it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 579 ✭✭✭cartell_best


    I hope they open it back up as a pub. There was nothing like starting there on a Friday or Saturday night and then heading down to flow motion in Egans. It'd be great to see life put back into that end of the town again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 pilgrim4


    Agree with ya there Cartell.Twas some place to meet and make your decision left or right...right for an alternative night in the roxy or flow or left for a mainstream night in mulldoons or preachers.
    Much prefer to see a pub there rather than a shop but im biased because of the memories.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    Oh I'd love to see it reopened as a pub.. I've memories of when I just started going out. It was such a great place !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭Nas10


    I was asking my mate, he said Dunnes own it that they paid them when they bricked it up. Maybe they need it as a storage room


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 Birdfood


    It was purchased by developers for big money who thought they were on to a winner when Bank of Scotland were interested in a lease on it. Then Bank of Scotland left the Irish Market and that plan went to pot and it's vacant ever since. Never heard of Dunnes owning it unless it's been sold to them since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭BBM77


    It would certainly be like Dunnes to take advantage of the current state of the market and the owners misfortune. In retail property circles they have a terrible reputation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭jad2007


    Eh Dunnes are the owner. They bought it years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭giles lynchwood


    I'm nearly certain Dunne's bought it from the Reid's,owner's of the old stand.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Jason Todd


    Would it need much structural work done to it? If I ever won the Lotto, I'd love to buy it and open it up as a pub again and do food! :)


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,763 Mod ✭✭✭✭ToxicPaddy


    I thought Noel Burke Developments from Galway bought it.

    And its currently up for lease at the moment with Halley Grace

    Linky

    I'd say they are spending some money on it to freshen the building up a bit as no one is going to rent that property in its current state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Nypd


    ToxicPaddy wrote: »
    I thought Noel Burke Developments from Galway bought it.

    And its currently up for lease at the moment with Halley Grace

    Linky

    I'd say they are spending some money on it to freshen the building up a bit as no one is going to rent that property in its current state.

    Spoke to one of the workers yesterday, it's a weeks work cleaning up the place inside, that's all folks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 781 ✭✭✭Nypd


    ToxicPaddy wrote: »
    I thought Noel Burke Developments from Galway bought it.

    And its currently up for lease at the moment with Halley Grace

    Linky

    I'd say they are spending some money on it to freshen the building up a bit as no one is going to rent that property in its current state.

    Spoke to one of the workers yesterday, it's a weeks work cleaning up the place inside, that's all folks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Raykiely


    See new windows and doors being put in there today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭bradknowell


    Raykiely wrote: »
    See new windows and doors being put in there today

    Just because you used your real name as a username I had to go and have a nosy on facebook. Dont know ya but welcome to the site anyways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Raykiely


    lol Thanks ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Hoffmans


    ToxicPaddy wrote: »
    I thought Noel Burke Developments from Galway bought it.

    And its currently up for lease at the moment with Halley Grace

    Linky

    I'd say they are spending some money on it to freshen the building up a bit as no one is going to rent that property in its current state.
    to let signs, only go up to avoid rates....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭kayevajo


    i heard from a good source that the reid family have bought it back, and are reopening it.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,763 Mod ✭✭✭✭ToxicPaddy


    kayevajo wrote: »
    i heard from a good source that the reid family have bought it back, and are reopening it.

    Would be good if its true as was always a good spot..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Max Powers


    ToxicPaddy wrote: »
    Would be good if its true as was always a good spot..


    +1 there


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21 4MWD


    Afraid I learned tonight that The Old Stand has not been sold and is not reopening. Bank have agreed to release some money to allow new windows and doors to be installed on foot of a Derelict Site Notice issued by Waterford City Council in the hope that someone might buy or rent it then. Better then having hoarding around it but still will look bad to have it not in use, it being in such a prime city centre location.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    If ever there was a case for a Site Value Tax, this is it. Get people who sit on properties like this to pay up, and hopefully in the process persuade them to sell on to someone who will make productive use of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭comeraghs


    Anybody know anymore about this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭jayboi


    Any news on this place passed it earlier its not looking in the best nick. Council would want to slap another dereliction notice on the place. Is it a Nama place? Must be closed 7 or 8 years at this stage


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,079 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    jayboi wrote: »
    Any news on this place passed it earlier its not looking in the best nick. Council would want to slap another dereliction notice on the place. Is it a Nama place? Must be closed 7 or 8 years at this stage

    It looks terrible at the moment. They did a revamp with it a year or so ago - putting in the windows, and removing the cardboard, but most of the glass is cracked now - and there seems to be a large window open upstairs all the time. Place must be a mess inside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭homecouldbhere


    Yeah shame.
    I've great memories of that place being jointed on a Saturday afternoon.
    From memory I'm not sure if the square footage would be adequate for a major retailer.
    If it were to be reopened as a pub it might stretch the crowd up a bit from Geoffs and the Kazbar...but hard to see it working out.
    Back in the day we would regularly meet up at T & Hs and work our way up the town via the Stand.
    I remember moaning about how it was such a trek from T & Hs! On down then to Merlins!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭savic04


    AFAIK and I could be wrong, it cannot be opened as a pub due to the license expiring on it... or something along those lines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Could have been a good location for Wetherspoons but possibly a bit small.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭savic04


    Is it true about Whetherspoons going to TSB in Arundel Sq?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭wellboytoo


    They looked at the stand but no smoking area, Arundel could be a runner alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    Could have been a good location for Wetherspoons but possibly a bit small.

    I thought Wetherspoons were going into the old TSB bank in Arundel Square?

    Edit: Just saw Savics reply, seems we heard the same rumour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭jayboi


    How much is The Stand going for these days?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


    savic04 wrote: »
    Is it true about Whetherspoons going to TSB in Arundel Sq?
    A lock-in in a vault sounds cool!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,626 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    Where's the smoking area in the TSB?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭wellboytoo


    wmpdd3 wrote: »
    Where's the smoking area in the TSB?!

    It's not only the TSB it's the two building on Broad Street as well, essentially the old Flanagans premises , there is open space between them still.


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