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Phone for taxi from Dublin Airport?

  • 24-08-2012 12:02pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭


    Is there any law/regulation to prevent you arriving at Dublin airport, phoning for a taxi, and get it to pick you up at a convenient location in the airport grounds (though not the normal taxi rank, obviously)?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    mambo wrote: »
    Is there any law/regulation to prevent you arriving at Dublin airport, phoning for a taxi, and get it to pick you up at a convenient location in the airport grounds (though not the normal taxi rank, obviously)?
    No. Once it's pre-booked any taxi, hackney or limo can pick up at the airport, same as a private car can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    OP, the taxi strike at Dublin airport (that I presume was the reason for your post) is over. According to the one o'clock news, taxi's are now picking up passengers again at the airport taxi rank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭mambo


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    OP, the taxi strike at Dublin airport (that I presume was the reason for your post) is over. According to the one o'clock news, taxi's are now picking up passengers again at the airport taxi rank.

    Yes, I know the strike is over, but some people may prefer to call for a taxi anyway.

    For example, people who live close to the airport and don't want the driver from the rank complaining that he's been 3 hours in the holding area waiting for a fare, and now it's only a small fare.

    Or people who want to avail of taxi companies that offer a discount off the standard fare, e.g. 8202020 offer 25% off airport runs (both ways I assume).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭JustinDee


    mambo wrote: »
    For example, people who live close to the airport and don't want the driver from the rank complaining that he's been 3 hours in the holding area waiting for a fare, and now it's only a small fare

    They have to take the fare. Thats what they're there for. Christ, the more I hear of this kind of thing, the more the label "shower of lazyarsed gobsh*tes" suits them. They keep forgetting they're a bloody SERVICE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭mambo


    JustinDee wrote: »
    They have to take the fare. Thats what they're there for. Christ, the more I hear of this kind of thing, the more the label "shower of lazyarsed gobsh*tes" suits them. They keep forgetting they're a bloody SERVICE.

    I know they have to take the fare, but there's (sadly) no law against them grumbling and moaning.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭mambo


    By the way, the Hailo app doesn't currently work at Dublin airport. Not sure why, if taxis are allowed pick up there when called by phone (the only essential difference is that it's an app rather than a phone call)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Is there a special spot in the airport where people can meet their pre booked taxi other than established taxi rank(s)? Don't airport bylaws prohibit them from picking passengers up other than at designated ranks?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    Is there a special spot in the airport where people can meet their pre booked taxi other than established taxi rank(s)? Don't airport bylaws prohibit them from picking passengers up other than at designated ranks?
    They prohibit them from parking on double yellows, same as with all traffic. However, I can't help being a clumsy driver and accidentally hang my engine at the exact spot my passenger is waiting now can I?;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    My OH has a a friendly taxi driver she uses for airport pick ups. Dead sound, we trust him and the car is immaculate. She texts him from the other side with flight details, he keeps an eye on arrivals via the internet on the mobile and picks her up from arrivals generally, I'm guessing he pulls in at the service station near T1 and waits there until ready. I've used him myself, better than a queue and a potential eejit chatting nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,101 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    Is there a special spot in the airport where people can meet their pre booked taxi other than established taxi rank(s)? Don't airport bylaws prohibit them from picking passengers up other than at designated ranks?

    I used to leave my car in my Sisters place in Swords and get a taxi to the airport. When I got back I'd call the taxi company after I cleared immigration and they'd always meet me at the 2nd door on departures. I see loads of taxis collection here and last time, I was waiting for my Sis, I say an airport police man walk out to a car waiting for him and loads of airline staff also jumping into cars.

    While I could have just got a cab from the rank. I don't want to spend my good money listening to an angry taxi driver moaning about the short fare when I can get a taxi that's happy to take my money.

    I remember a few years ago there was a pick up point behind the short term car parks beside the coach parks. Is there any legit pick up point now?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,620 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    mambo wrote: »
    Yes, I know the strike is over, but some people may prefer to call for a taxi anyway.

    For example, people who live close to the airport and don't want the driver from the rank complaining that he's been 3 hours in the holding area waiting for a fare, and now it's only a small fare.

    Or people who want to avail of taxi companies that offer a discount off the standard fare, e.g. 8202020 offer 25% off airport runs (both ways I assume).

    Or better still, people who want to avoid giving business to the regular airport taxis to show them what the public thinks of them blocking access to the airport with their 'slow drives'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭DylanII


    From now on the way I will be doing it is:

    Long distance from airport -> I call a taxi

    Short distance from airport -> I'll use the taxi at the airport just to annoy them. . .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭An Udaras


    mambo wrote: »
    Is there any law/regulation to prevent you arriving at Dublin airport, phoning for a taxi, and get it to pick you up at a convenient location in the airport grounds (though not the normal taxi rank, obviously)?

    Hi their,

    In answer to your question the Airport Byelaws created the offence for a SPSV or a taxi to tout for business other then on a Authorised stand i.e taxi rank within a airport there are some exceptions to this i.e. airport hotels & offices etc..

    You can prebook a taxi of course and the driver can meet you in the arrivals hall and bring you out to their parked car. You often see them with name boards. This is perfectly legal. Anything other then the above and the taxi driver could risk penalties for breaching the Byelaws.

    If the byelaw did not exist you would have a situation where potentially dozens of taxies on airport roads touting for business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,577 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    JustinDee wrote: »
    the more I hear of this kind of thing, the more the label "shower of lazyarsed gobsh*tes" suits them.
    Less of this please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭wexford12


    DylanII wrote: »
    From now on the way I will be doing it is:

    Long distance from airport -> I call a taxi

    Short distance from airport -> I'll use the taxi at the airport just to annoy them. . .

    A simple way to solve the fare problem is to set the fare to €10 which would give you 5km of driving and then a rate for every extra km there after. This stage of costs to ask any driver to bring someone down the road for €4.10 / €4.45 night time rate is madness. Most fares down here are around €5.00 which is a joke you cannot make money on this if it drives away the short fares of a km down the road so be it. People only use taxis now if they are stuck during the day or at 2am on a Fri Sat night. If they want a service pay for it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    wexford12 wrote: »
    A simple way to solve the fare problem is to set the fare to €10 which would give you 5km of driving and then a rate for every extra km there after. This stage of costs to ask any driver to bring someone down the road for €4.10 / €4.45 night time rate is madness. Most fares down here are around €5.00 which is a joke you cannot make money on this if it drives away the short fares of a km down the road so be it. People only use taxis now if they are stuck during the day or at 2am on a Fri Sat night. If they want a service pay for it

    Eh no. Regulator sets the fare, its the same for everywhere. Plus, if a taxi driver tells the DAA staff member that its a short fare, he is given a time limit (20/30 mins) to return. If he does this he doesn't have to go to the holding area, he can just return to the rank. Taxi Drivers provide a service, people already pay through the nose for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    wexford12 wrote: »
    A simple way to solve the fare problem is to set the fare to €10 which would give you 5km of driving and then a rate for every extra km there after. This stage of costs to ask any driver to bring someone down the road for €4.10 / €4.45 night time rate is madness. Most fares down here are around €5.00 which is a joke you cannot make money on this if it drives away the short fares of a km down the road so be it. People only use taxis now if they are stuck during the day or at 2am on a Fri Sat night. If they want a service pay for it

    We have the same fare for the entire country

    You want to go back to the old days of borders and set rates and old customs

    I don't know Dublin that well but Galway airport used to have old time drivers and it was one fare into the city and if you crossed the river Corrib the fare was jacked up.

    One national fare is far easier, same for everyone, local and tourist


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    An Udaras wrote: »
    Hi their,

    In answer to your question the Airport Byelaws created the offence for a SPSV or a taxi to tout for business other then on a Authorised stand i.e taxi rank within a airport there are some exceptions to this i.e. airport hotels & offices etc..

    You can prebook a taxi of course and the driver can meet you in the arrivals hall and bring you out to their parked car. You often see them with name boards. This is perfectly legal. Anything other then the above and the taxi driver could risk penalties for breaching the Byelaws.

    If the byelaw did not exist you would have a situation where potentially dozens of taxies on airport roads touting for business.

    There is no law stopping any taxi(with or without an airport permit) from picking up passengers at the airport as long as it has been pre-booked, it is however illegal for any taxi with or without an airport permit to drive around the airport looking for fares.

    There is no requirement for any taxi driver to park in any car park as it would be far easier to wait outside the airport for a call from the passenger when they are at the intended pick-up point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    There is no law stopping any taxi(with or without an airport permit) from picking up passengers at the airport as long as it has been pre-booked, it is however illegal for any taxi with or without an airport permit to drive around the airport looking for fares.

    There is no requirement for any taxi driver to park in any car park as it would be far easier to wait outside the airport for a call from the passenger when they are at the intended pick-up point.

    Unhappily, you aren't allowed to pick up anywhere in the airport , you instead are supposed to meet your passengers and walk them to your taxi in the carpark


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭An Udaras


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    There is no law stopping any taxi(with or without an airport permit) from picking up passengers at the airport as long as it has been pre-booked, it is however illegal for any taxi with or without an airport permit to drive around the airport looking for fares.

    There is no requirement for any taxi driver to park in any car park as it would be far easier to wait outside the airport for a call from the passenger when they are at the intended pick-up point.

    Quite simply the Byelaw are a statutory act and it is an offence currently to contravene section 42 of the Air Naivigation & Transport Act 1998 to breach any byelaw or relevant section.

    Technically as the previous poster said there is no picking up in the airport only to set down but every one knows how it works in real life but taxies plying for business or prebooked who decide to park up waiting are potentially committing an offence and liable to enforcement proceedings being taken against them.

    Even at a minimum a €100 on the spot fine from the Airport Polis will have a rather sharp effect on a days earnings. Is that a risk a taxi driver wishes to take for €15 fare?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭loobylou


    If your going on a short local journey simply leave the airport by the upstairs departure level. Any number of taxis dropping off passengers there who are only delighted to get another fare (of ANY length) straight away without queuing or returning to town empty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭wexford12


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    We have the same fare for the entire country

    You want to go back to the old days of borders and set rates and old customs

    I don't know Dublin that well but Galway airport used to have old time drivers and it was one fare into the city and if you crossed the river Corrib the fare was jacked up.

    One national fare is far easier, same for everyone, local and tourist

    I'm only too aware of the fare and that's its country wide. I still think it should be set so as to make the short trips profitable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    The Dublin Bus business model :D

    Business is down so jack up the fares to make the difference


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭JustinDee


    loobylou wrote: »
    If your going on a short local journey simply leave the airport by the upstairs departure level. Any number of taxis dropping off passengers there who are only delighted to get another fare (of ANY length) straight away without queuing or returning to town empty.

    Or simply hail the first cab you see and get them to do the job they effing well signed up to do.


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