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baptism

  • 23-08-2012 5:19pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭


    Hi .can anyone on here tell me for sure if a 'minister of the eucharist' can christen babies?just curious..thanks


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 348 ✭✭Actor


    I would say certainly not.

    I understand that you need at least a deacon.

    I also understand that lay faithful can baptise in extremis. Or in case of impending death. Might be wrong on this point though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭Onesimus


    Actor wrote: »
    I would say certainly not.

    I understand that you need at least a deacon.

    I also understand that lay faithful can baptise in extremis. Or in case of impending death. Might be wrong on this point though.

    Perhaps its all to do with the word. But the way I read this was a way in which it was said in an abrupt sort of manner. If it was I don't think there is a need for it at all. If it wasn't my apologies actor.

    Yes any lay person may baptize but only in serious circumstances that involve death as noted by Actor.

    But if a priest or deacon be available then you should make an appointment with the priest. Should anything happen the baby beforehand then he or she will be considered baptized which is known as the ''baptism of desire''. So there is no need to worry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭martinedwards


    you don't say your denomination.

    On the protestant side of things ANY believer CAN baptise, bear in mind that there are many denominations that don't have clergy and yet still have baptisms.

    most of the big (prod) denominations its USUALLY clergy that do it, but if someone else does it, so long as it's recorded in the local church records, it's counted as done.

    On a spiritual level, it doesn't NEED to be written in a big book for God to know about it!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Maudi


    you don't say your denomination.

    On the protestant side of things ANY believer CAN baptise, bear in mind that there are many denominations that don't have clergy and yet still have baptisms.

    most of the big (prod) denominations its USUALLY clergy that do it, but if someone else does it, so long as it's recorded in the local church records, it's counted as done.

    On a spiritual level, it doesn't NEED to be written in a big book for God to know about it!!
    Sorry..should have said..we are catholic..we would like it done at home..not sure if a priest would call to house to do it.we do know a minister of the euchurist..and wondered would he be empowered to do it and record it..we aint catholic fanatics or fundamentalists more ....good christians...just thought a simple home job could be done..and less fuss all that new crap of dressing up for the church 'do'and party/reception after wards aint for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    Maudi wrote: »
    Sorry..should have said..we are catholic..we would like it done at home..not sure if a priest would call to house to do it.we do know a minister of the euchurist..and wondered would he be empowered to do it and record it..we aint catholic fanatics or fundamentalists more ....good christians...just thought a simple home job could be done..and less fuss all that new crap of dressing up for the church 'do'and party/reception after wards aint for me.

    I can totally understand that!

    I don't think that baptism is something that a Eucharistic minister would agree to do unless it was an emergency. As for priests doing it in your home, I honestly don't know, but the best thing to do is ask your local priest. Even if you have it in a church, it can be as little fuss as you want. Best of luck!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭martinedwards


    talk to the priest.

    he'll likely try and persuade you to do the whole church thing rather than at home though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,927 ✭✭✭georgieporgy


    talk to the priest.

    he'll likely try and persuade you to do the whole church thing rather than at home though!

    the whole church thing takes about 30 mins. It's easier for the priest to do it in church so he doesn't have to take half a day off to visit your house.

    It's the party afterwards (which is totally unnecessary) which takes the time and money.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Maudi


    talk to the priest.

    he'll likely try and persuade you to do the whole church thing rather than at home though!
    Il talk to a friendly local priest next..although someone else told me the resident priest in the maternity hospital will do it at the bedside.i tink il look into this option too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭Onesimus


    Maudi, It is important you do it in a Church. A sacrament is not some kind of thing we play around with to suit our own convenience. It is not a cultural thing like a baby shower in which we get to decide how the baptism be performed and by whom and what ''venue'' we should have it in. To treat it that way is to miss its great significance and have a clouded view of the Sacrament.

    If a Church is there to house you and your child for the baptism and you are both mentally and physically capable to get over there ( no matter the dress code ) then you will by all means be asked to submit out of Holy obedience and have it done that way.

    In brief Sacraments are not about having it done ''my way'' but having it done ''Gods way''. In doing this we show our selfless love for God and his Church not to mention his Sacraments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭Benny_Cake


    Since the OP's question seems to have been answered, I'm closing this thread.


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