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Spit Roast Pig

  • 22-08-2012 1:08am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭


    HI,

    I am cooking a Spit Roast on Saturday night for a family party (a 40 kilo pig). I have the pig, the spit and a knowledge of what to do. My intention is to cook him as is with maybe just salt and pepper but before I commit to that has anybody tried it any other way? Stuffed? particular baste? Or any other helpful hints tips?

    Also if I don't stuff it would you still tie over the stomach or leave it open?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Osborne


    I'd stick to good 'aul salt and pepper as there will be plenty of flavour in the beast itself.

    Also at least then you'll be catering to everybody's tastes as if they're anything like my family and friend, there will be plenty of fussy eaters present.

    I would tie the stomach up but that's only because that was the way I was shown how to do it. I do not necessarily have proof that this improves the cooking process.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    Yea, might stich it with wire just to not burn the inside while waiting for the thicker parts to cook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Osborne


    Hope the weather is good to you and good luck with the roast! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭FanadMan


    Might be an idea to post in the shooting/hunting section as well......these guys are used to cooking stuff like that :)

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1014


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭foodaholic


    Can we all go to Guill's house ??:p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭Curry Addict


    i have seen this done and the thing i remember the most is, it takes many hours to cook and the spit was turned continuously but very slowly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    You will need a good supply of fuel, if you run out its a disaster.
    That size animal will take at least 8 hrs maybe closer to 9 hrs cooking under normal conditions, I assume that 40kg is dressed weight not live weight?
    Are you using charcoal? You will need a lot of charcoal probably 50-60kg I have seen briquettes used, they work OK, better to have too much than too little.
    The heat needs to be at the shoulder and back quarters more than the middle
    Wire the pigs legs forwards to the spit, the wire needs to be very tight because the pig will shrink as its cooked and as it shrinks the wire loosens which can lead to the pig falling into the coals - not good.
    Start the heat slow and build it up rather than fast-slow, too hot at the start makes it hard to get the heat into the meat effectively as the meat closes up.
    The correct temp is if you can hold your hand at the same level as the meat for at least 8 seconds but less than 12
    Don't forget to use tinfoil on the ears/snout/trotters or they will be burnt to a crisp before the pig is done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    You will need a good supply of fuel, if you run out its a disaster.

    Check.

    That size animal will take at least 8 hrs maybe closer to 9 hrs cooking under normal conditions, I assume that 40kg is dressed weight not live weight?

    Dressed

    Are you using charcoal? You will need a lot of charcoal probably 50-60kg I have seen briquettes used, they work OK, better to have too much than too little.

    Turf

    The heat needs to be at the shoulder and back quarters more than the middle

    Will do

    Wire the pigs legs forwards to the spit, the wire needs to be very tight because the pig will shrink as its cooked and as it shrinks the wire loosens which can lead to the pig falling into the coals - not good.

    Check, chicken wire.

    Start the heat slow and build it up rather than fast-slow, too hot at the start makes it hard to get the heat into the meat effectively as the meat closes up.

    Will do, cheers.

    The correct temp is if you can hold your hand at the same level as the meat for at least 8 seconds but less than 12

    :)

    Don't forget to use tinfoil on the ears/snout/trotters or they will be burnt to a crisp before the pig is done.

    :o

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    The wire needs to be single strand as well, so you can twist it and get it really tight.
    Chicken wire is OK but I am a little bit sketchy about having galvanised stuff on food.
    Stainless is best if you can get it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    i was thinking a stainless steel coat hanger would work really well and also for closing up the body cavity if it was sharpened at one end.

    damn, that's going to be tasty. :D

    don't forget to get some pics and maybe video if you can? i'm sure we'd all like to salivate over it. :)

    I was thinking it wouldn't be all that hard to cobble a spit roasting rig together. i was thinking of some cogs and a chain salvaged from an old bike, plus poles etc. using a drill on it's lowest setting to turn it "hands free".

    i think turf is going to do a good job too, it doesn't burn too hot.

    i'd be tempted to rig up some kind of gutter as well to catch some of the juices for basting purposes as well.

    so when's the big day, and what time should we get there? ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,413 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I concur with sticking to just salt and pepper - the turf will add quite a lot of flavour and if it's a good pig you want the pork flavour to come through.
    I'd provide maybe 2 sauces to go with it - one hot and one mild to cater for all tastes. BBQ sauce would be the obvious choice but a nice salsa verde could be very good too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    If you are just S+P the pig give inside the belly a bit of a rub with the salt and pepper and garlic and a little oil before you close it up.
    40kg dressed will give about half that weight in cooked meat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    vibe666 wrote: »
    i was thinking a stainless steel coat hanger would work really well and also for closing up the body cavity if it was sharpened at one end.

    damn, that's going to be tasty. :D

    don't forget to get some pics and maybe video if you can? i'm sure we'd all like to salivate over it. :)

    I was thinking it wouldn't be all that hard to cobble a spit roasting rig together. i was thinking of some cogs and a chain salvaged from an old bike, plus poles etc. using a drill on it's lowest setting to turn it "hands free".

    i think turf is going to do a good job too, it doesn't burn too hot.

    i'd be tempted to rig up some kind of gutter as well to catch some of the juices for basting purposes as well.

    so when's the big day, and what time should we get there? ;)

    The coat hanger sounds like a good idea to me.

    I will have plenty of pics to come.
    Followed this guy from farm through the slaughter and nearly to fork now.

    The spit i am using was heand made and is fairly good but there are some things I would change, also it's manual which really isn't a problem cause we will be there all day setting up Marquee anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭lookitsme


    I have great advise for you to make that pig taste amazing

    its a secret so i dont want anyone else knowing, i know i will come over to yours on saturday and tell you


    mmmmmmmmmm greasy pig flavoured fingers, lick lick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    lookitsme wrote: »
    I have great advise for you to make that pig taste amazing

    its a secret so i dont want anyone else knowing, i know i will come over to yours on saturday and tell you


    mmmmmmmmmm greasy pig flavoured fingers, lick lick


    I'll make a deal with you, give me the advice and if I deem it good enough, i'll give you the address. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭lookitsme


    well the advice is simple, invite good company

    see you saturday!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    lookitsme wrote: »
    well the advice is simple, invite good company

    see you saturday!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LovdOl.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    mZYZ6l.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Looking good, nice rustic setting too, are you just burning off some scrub in the background as well?
    How long was it on at that point?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Elbow


    Thats some damn fine looking crackling you've got sir! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭aujopimur


    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm NOM NOM NOM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭lookitsme


    did you not put an apple in its mouth, all the cartoons have apples in their mouth. but that looks damm nice my mouth is watering thinking about that crackling and just breaking up the juicy moist flesh. well done and thanks for the photo that pig was in my thoughts yesterday as i sat down to my cheese toastie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    lookitsme wrote: »
    did you not put an apple in its mouth, all the cartoons have apples in their mouth. but that looks damm nice my mouth is watering thinking about that crackling and just breaking up the juicy moist flesh. well done and thanks for the photo that pig was in my thoughts yesterday as i sat down to my cheese toastie.


    No Apples on hand but it wouldn't have mattered once he came off the spit he didn't last long!

    fGnQGl.jpg


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    Motherogod that looks fantastic. Any pics of the full beast on the spit?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Guill, the pictures you're uploading are massive. In future, try selecting "Large Thumbnail" size from imgur to save us from having to resize them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    Faith wrote: »
    Guill, the pictures you're uploading are massive. In future, try selecting "Large Thumbnail" size from imgur to save us from having to resize them.


    Apologies Faith, will do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭lookitsme


    Guill wrote: »
    No Apples on hand but it wouldn't have mattered once he came off the spit he didn't last long!

    fGnQGl.jpg
    there still is some lovely ribs left on that bad boy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    Always wanted to do that. Great stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭Askim


    Guill wrote: »
    No Apples on hand but it wouldn't have mattered once he came off the spit he didn't last long!

    fGnQGl.jpg

    Hi Op
    I have done this also, made my own roaster, I did stuff it with chickens once, but later found out it would be a great way to get food poisoning, they cook too slow.
    I use chains & bolts to hold it on.
    I also prefer the shoulder, I just stand there hacking lumps off & eating it, brothers do likewise.

    Where did you get the roaster ? & can we have some pics of the workings of it ?????
    Ta
    A


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    Contains gruesome pics.

    I'm pretty sure you can scroll through my album of pics from the entire process on the above link.
    The spit was made by a cousin of mine and was fairly simple. Have a look at the pics. If there's anything you can't figure out, let me know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭lookitsme


    what are you using to fuel that fire? is it turf i see in the photos


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    lookitsme wrote: »
    what are you using to fuel that fire? is it turf i see in the photos


    Turf and timber.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭lookitsme


    i do like the smell of a turf fire,


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭ASJ112


    Did you not eat the ears/cheeks/head too ? The ears are lovely when crispy. I wonder what the pig nose is like...

    Definitely going to be doing this at the next birthday/bar mitzvah if the weather is good. Cheers for the pics !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭lookitsme


    ASJ112 wrote: »
    Did you not eat the ears/cheeks/head too ? The ears are lovely when crispy. I wonder what the pig nose is like...

    Definitely going to be doing this at the next birthday/bar mitzvah if the weather is good. Cheers for the pics !


    might not be to many takers for a spit roast pork at the average bar mitzvah


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    ASJ112 wrote: »
    Did you not eat the ears/cheeks/head too ? The ears are lovely when crispy. I wonder what the pig nose is like...

    Definitely going to be doing this at the next birthday/bar mitzvah if the weather is good. Cheers for the pics !


    We ate the ears as the night moved on, very crispie alright.
    The trotters contain a suprisingly large amount of meat too!
    I removed the head, cheeks and temple meat but no-one would eat them, I was too full myself (food and drink) to contemplate it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭lookitsme


    how many people did it take to devour the beast


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    lookitsme wrote: »
    how many people did it take to devour the beast


    We fed 80. Everyone had as much as they could eat, most peole had seconds, some had thirds, some just grazed on it for the night. By the end there was still enough meat left to feed another 40 I would think. It was 45kg dead weight. We had him on Sunday too and for lunch Monday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    How much was the pig?

    That's some great value for one cook regardless of the cost!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    I go him fairly cheap off of a friend but I think they are around €120 which is great value considering the masses it fed!


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