NCT from what year VinVet

Capri

Should know but too lazy tonite - what's the story with NCT's on VinVet ?
Don't need one on my '73 but what about an '81 ?

macplaxton

Lazy man does not get spoon fed. Check the charter

andy 85

1980 onwards has to b nct iv a 81 kadett and had to do it

mattroche

Had 3 cars on ZV plates tested this week, 2 in Limerick, & 1 in Ennis, each time the tester asked why I was testing a car with ZV. plates, they understood that cars on ZV plates did NOT need an N.C.T. They were not aware that post 1st Jan 1980, cars had to be tested. While in the Ennis test centre, I saw a notice saying that driving a vahicle without a current N.C.T. can get you 5 POINTS on your licence, is this correct does anyone know?

Capri

macplaxton wrote: »

Lazy man does not get spoon fed. Check the charter

You're completely correct - BUT - as you can see by the replys, it's an anomolous situation with different centers giving different answers. I'd be guided by what my local motor tax says / asks me for ( if they ask me for a VinVet NCT I'd be asking them for the paperwork that says I have to have one, that'd prove it once and for all :eek: )

Cosmo K

mattroche wrote: »

Had 3 cars on ZV plates tested this week, 2 in Limerick, & 1 in Ennis, each time the tester asked why I was testing a car with ZV. plates, they understood that cars on ZV plates did NOT need an N.C.T. They were not aware that post 1st Jan 1980, cars had to be tested. While in the Ennis test centre, I saw a notice saying that driving a vahicle without a current N.C.T. can get you 5 POINTS on your licence, is this correct does anyone know?

Hi Matt,

I can assure you, that me and my colleagues here at the NCT center in Ennis are well aware of the fact, that cars on ZV plates have to be tested. We have tested thousands of cars on ZV plates over the years. And I find it hard to believe, that one of my colleagues was surprised to see a car on ZV plates coming in for a test.

macplaxton

Capri wrote: »

with different centers giving different answers.

The correct answer is in the classic cars charter of this very sub-forum, I said nothing about asking centres.;)

Capri wrote: »

I'd be guided by what my local motor tax says / asks me for

Probably as much use as asking "bloke down the pub". It might be mitigating circumstances to quote who guided you, but it's a rather flaky defence should you land up in court. Go by what the law says. It's all down in the 2009 NCT regulations what vehicles are subject to test.

2cv

Cosmo K wrote: »

Hi Matt,

I can assure you, that me and my colleagues here at the NCT center in Ennis are well aware of the fact, that cars on ZV plates have to be tested. We have tested thousands of cars on ZV plates over the years. And I find it hard to believe, that one of my colleagues was surprised to see a car on ZV plates coming in for a test.

I took an 85-C registered car to the test centre in Macroom a few years back and they wouldn't test it because they claimed an 85 car is NCT exempt. We actually had to insist that they test the car....

macplaxton

mattroche wrote: »

While in the Ennis test centre, I saw a notice saying that driving a vahicle without a current N.C.T. can get you 5 POINTS on your licence, is this correct does anyone know?

This is correct as of 1st May 2009. I'd find the act/regulation for you, but I'm busy.

macplaxton

S.I. No. 148/2009 — Road Traffic Act 2006 (Part Commencement Section 16) (Penalty Points) Order 2009

also see bottom of THIS PAGE

For full current list (as of 3rd August 2012) of penalty point offences, see this RSA PDF

mattroche

Macplaxton, thank you for going to the trouble of getting this information, and posting it here. I think it will be a suprise to a few people, including myself.

Capri

You can see from the gobbledegook language in the documents how lawyers charge so much to 'interpret' the law. Legislative documents do give room for interpretation until a judge makes a ruling - don't get me wrong, I welcome a form of reasonable testing ( do the NCT apply different settings for say, the drum braking systems of older cars?) but I still wonder why so many VinVet cars have no NCT disc on them ??

In a way this discussion reminds me of 2 friends of mine - one is involved in maintainence of old houses rented to the government, he's a stickler for 'legal' niceities because various inspectors show up regularily. Even if he's making a cup of tea he'll check out the kettle wiring first. The other chap is very talented in many areas but just gets on with the job , covers the wiring, plasters the wall and the job's oxo - he doesn't worry about 'legislation' because he's not dealing with government agents daily. Both men achieve the same end result, just one stresses himself more than the other:eek:

macplaxton

Capri wrote: »

Legislative documents do give room for interpretation until a judge makes a ruling - don't get me wrong,

Only badly drafted ones. Of which there seems to be a number.