The James Holmes Conspiracy (video)

Daithi 1

Seems like a well put together doc...

For those who do not believe the story we are being told by the government and media. The James Holmes Conspiracy. Several witness testimonies, news reports, theories and ideas behind the motives of the crime. Topics discussed include the second suspect, weapons, police audio analysis, James Holmes education and bio, LIBOR scandal, MK Ultra, Project Gunrunner, and several other important elements. Several new pieces of evidence and testimonies all in one video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWROKa0CXWo

Torakx

The most curious part of that video so far in part 1 was the question about cameras in the cinema.
Would there have been cameras?
The guy in the background sems to react alright to some of those questions.
Wether that was coincedance i dont know.But a good question, i would like to hear answered.

Run_to_da_hills

Torakx wrote: »

The most curious part of that video so far in part 1 was the question about cameras in the cinema.
Would there have been cameras?
The guy in the background sems to react alright to some of those questions.
Wether that was coincedance i dont know.But a good question, i would like to hear answered.

If the CCTV system was down it is obvious that the government was in on it. Watch the cop trying to avoid the question,so obvious.

gibraltar

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

If the CCTV system was down it is obvious that the government was in on it. Watch the cop trying to avoid the question,so obvious.

thats all CCTV not working = government sponsored killing spree...its a little weak, you can do better, take some time and something will come to you.

Run_to_da_hills

gibraltar wrote: »

thats all CCTV not working = government sponsored killing spree...its a little weak, you can do better, take some time and something will come to you.

Aurura and Wisconsin murders both had their CCTV footage down.

Its getting kind of obvious now that the US authorities under the Obama administration were in on it.

Wait and see when the next one will happen and more than likely it will be the same. If there is footage or captions on private cell phones confiscated at the scene and " rel="nofollow">key witnesses dropping off like flies in the aftermath we can definitely smell a rat.

gibraltar

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Aurura and Wisconsin murders both had their CCTV footage down.

Its getting kind of obvious now that the US authorities were in on it.

Wait and see when the next one will happen and more than likely it will be the same. If there is footage or captions on private cell phones confiscated at the scene we can definitely smell a rat.

The authorities are pretty stupid leaving all these clues, by the way when is the next one scheduled?

Jonny7

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Its getting kind of obvious now that the US authorities under the Obama administration were in on it.

No it's not in the slightest. There is absolutely no case whatsoever that Aurora was anything other than the act of a lone gunman.

You already decided, literally hours after the event, that it was a conspiracy, ergo you believe it's a conspiracy and I doubt very little will change that personal perception (a belief)

davoxx

Jonny7 wrote: »

No it's not in the slightest. There is absolutely no case whatsoever that Aurora was anything other than the act of a lone gunman.

You already decided, literally hours after the event, that it was a conspiracy, ergo you believe it's a conspiracy and I doubt very little will change that personal perception (a belief)

have you decided it wasn't?

normally it is not strange that cctv was down, but if it was down only on that one day when the shooting took place, well then that is a different story, though as you say if you've already made up your mind on the culprit, why investigate?

has there been any official stance on whether the cctv was down or not and if so for how long?

Jonny7

davoxx wrote: »

have you decided it wasn't?

normally it is not strange that cctv was down, but if it was down only on that one day when the shooting took place, well then that is a different story, though as you say if you've already made up your mind on the culprit, why investigate?

has there been any official stance on whether the cctv was down or not and if so for how long?

I mean there's no CCTV, there's no shot up pictures of the theatre, I don't see images of the bodies, there's a gag order on the whole thing.. I mean think about it, how do we know it even happened?

weisses

When they blew up the pentagon .. The most important building in the USA they only gave us a couple of frames of footage so don't expect much from them now

Jonny7

weisses wrote: »

When they blew up the pentagon .. The most important building in the USA they only gave us a couple of frames of footage so don't expect much from them now

Also, on top of that, even extensive CCTV footage and real footage means practically nothing to certain people. I wouldn't try to count the number of conspiracy theories about 911 that imply no planes at all flew into the buildings.

weisses

Jonny7 wrote: »

Also, on top of that, even extensive CCTV footage and real footage means practically nothing to certain people. I wouldn't try to count the number of conspiracy theories about 911 that imply no planes at all flew into the buildings.

not to go completely ot .... I would like to see the footage of a plane hitting the pentagon those couple of frames means practicly nothing so lets start there ... Right now it leaves plenty of room for a CT

Jonny7

weisses wrote: »

not to go completely ot .... I would like to see the footage of a plane hitting the pentagon those couple of frames means practicly nothing so lets start there ... Right now it leaves plenty of room for a CT

Well, there is a small mountain of footage of the attacks on the twin towers, does it in any way dispel the conspiracy theories? nope. So why would CCTV footage or full colour footage of the attack on the Pentagon be any different?

CT's are generally based on finding discrepancies, coincidences, oddities (real or not) in the main story rather than providing a full clear picture of what actually transpired with evidence, names, dates, etc.

I'll wait for the full alternative theory that has evidence which outweighs the "official story" before making a judgement on whether there is a conspiracy or not. Of course like 911, that theory will probably never arrive.

weisses

Jonny7 wrote: »

Well, there is a small mountain of footage of the attacks on the twin towers, does it in any way dispel the conspiracy theories? nope. So why would CCTV footage or full colour footage of the attack on the Pentagon be any different?

I don't know Johnny 90 cameras .. 11 years later all we have is 5 frames ... And you find it strange people are seeing a conspiracy

Jonny7 wrote: »

I'll wait for the full alternative theory that has evidence which outweighs the "official story" before making a judgement on whether there is a conspiracy or not. Of course like 911, that theory will probably never arrive.

see my response above ...

Jonny7

weisses wrote: »

I don't know Johnny 90 cameras .. 11 years later all we have is 5 frames ... And you find it strange people are seeing a conspiracy

CCTV footage or any footage is largely irrelevant to conspiracy theories (911, moon landings, etc)

Personally I spent about 2 years subsequently believing a missile hit the Pentagon (despite watching the whole event live on the day)

Of course if there were hours of footage of flight 77 hitting the Pentagon, the CT's would be adjusted accordingly.

Likewise, if CCTV footage emerges from the Aurora shooting it will not dispel CT's, they will just alter accordingly.

weisses

Jonny7 wrote: »

Of course if there were hours of footage of flight 77 hitting the Pentagon, the CT's would be adjusted accordingly.

Some CT'ers will never be satisfied ... doesn't apply to all of them though

Jonny7 wrote: »

Likewise, if CCTV footage emerges from the Aurora shooting it will not dispel CT's, they will just alter accordingly.

Again there will always CT ers who are never ever satisfied with whatever outcome is presented ...

weisses

Jonny7 wrote: »

Personally I spent about 2 years subsequently believing a missile hit the Pentagon (despite watching the whole event live on the day)

So you are not curious why a proper recording has not been been released of the plane hitting the pentagon ?

davoxx

Jonny7 wrote: »

Personally I spent about 2 years subsequently believing a missile hit the Pentagon (despite watching the whole event live on the day)

you watched the plane fly into the pentagon live? why did you not record this? this is proof!!!

Jonny7

weisses wrote: »

So you are not curious why a proper recording has not been been released of the plane hitting the pentagon ?

Oh yeah definitely, but that's just some morbid curiousity.

If there were a high profile case or pending public/private enquiry over the event then I would be very surprised if the CCTV was not released. However the whole thing is an open and shut case.

Daithi 1

Perhaps this should be moved to the 911 forum.