How to Brainwash a Nation

joe1976

How to Brainwash a nation is no stranger to most people but I wanted to post this here because it is frustrating to to discuss topics on this forum with brainwashed people.

So, I will try to enlighten those brainwashed people and hope they can waken up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMZGGQ0ERk

It only scratches the surface but it's a start in my opinion.

PS: My own opinion is that brainwashing can be good in some ways..generally it should be frowned upon but if you have a good idea, brainwashing is not really that bad when you think about it. brainwashing is healthy in fact...especially to the economy.

A strong economy is predicated by cheap energy but also with good workers...so in that sense, we need strong workers that will work for nothing.

paddyandy

You'd be trying the impossible if you tried to brainwash some AH posters .Caustic Soda might do it .I could do with brainwashing myself from the filth i've picked up here on boards.ie .My innocence i miss so much these days .

joe1976

Brainwashing works, I like it.

If I have a policy, I know now how to implement it effectively.

Torakx

Well brainwashing gives it a very slanted view on whats happening.
Its a great vid,ive seen it a few times before and it never gets boring.

Id call it social conditioning.
Making use of humans natural instincts and manipulating them, over generations.

Jonny7

Religion does a fairly good job on the brainwashing end of things

Pakistan disabled girl arrested for blasphemy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19311098

Monty Burnz

I seem to remember reading somewhere recently that the whole concept of 'brainwashing' has been completely discredited by researchers, but I can't remember what the source was - does it ring any bells with anyone?

megafan

Religion & Nationalisim... Good way to control/brainwash a population...

Oracle

The old-fashioned term "brainwashing" can be problematic. Modern mind control is much more subtle, sophisticated and ubiquitous today.
For example, political correctness is like a type of brainwashing. It's a perfect form of mind control because its rules are internalised. You self-censor your own thoughts, feelings and opinions.

Jonny7

Oracle wrote: »

You self-censor your own thoughts, feelings and opinions.

This is psychological, personal - I mean think of what you say to your work colleagues as opposed to your close friends.

The only significant "brainwashing" we receive here in Ireland is advertising.

weisses

Jonny7 wrote: »

The only significant "brainwashing" we receive here in Ireland is advertising.

I think you can include the church as well

Jonny7

weisses wrote: »

I think you can include the church as well

Well, used to, but it's declining fast.

Run_to_da_hills

Subsidised satellite TV packages along with a flood of free to air MSM news channels is another way of brainwashing the masses. .

Jonny7

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Subsidised satellite TV packages along with a flood of free to air MSM news channels is another way of brainwashing the masses. .

For example in Ireland which MSM is being used to brainwash?

Must be all of it right or all these outlets would be contradicting each other all the time?

hooradiation

Oracle wrote: »

For example, political correctness is like a type of brainwashing.

Only in bizzaro world.

shedweller

hooradiation wrote: »

Only in bizzaro world.

How do you mean?

hooradiation

shedweller wrote: »

How do you mean?

That his assertion is wrong.

I assumed that particular idiom was well understood.

shedweller

hooradiation wrote: »

That his assertion is wrong.

I assumed that particular idiom was well understood.

In fairness, i see how PC can be interpreted as a type of brainwashing. Certain things are considered wrong or taboo to talk about so people dont do it.

Monty Burnz

shedweller wrote: »

In fairness, i see how PC can be interpreted as a type of brainwashing. Certain things are considered wrong or taboo to talk about so people dont do it.

There's a decent argument to be made along those lines, but social norms like political correctness are in the ha'penny place in terms of brainwashing when compared to organised religion. We don't have to stray off this board to see the effect it has on the ability of some people to reason correctly.

Jonny7

shedweller wrote: »

In fairness, i see how PC can be interpreted as a type of brainwashing. Certain things are considered wrong or taboo to talk about so people dont do it.

Like what exactly?

shedweller

Monty Burnz wrote: »

social norms like political correctness are in the ha'penny place in terms of brainwashing when compared to organised religion.

Agreed. But once ther term "politically incorrect" is applied to a given subject and it gains momentum, there isn't a hope of discussing it in a reasonable fashion anymore.
Thats quite a powerful tool imo.

Torakx

Jews

Torakx

Now that post could incite an instant ban/infraction lol
I hope i do, just to prove my point even more so

The media is constantly "brainwashing" those who participate even myself who happens to be very conscious of this stuff notice effects in my attitudes based on social conditioning and from watching movies(hollywood types).

I also agree with Monty and others who mentioned religion.
As an ex christian cult member i know only too well how deep those hooks can go, psychologically speaking ofc

In my view there is possibly an organised plot to mislead people in many facets of everyday life.
Doesnt matter if its sports, religion,eating,drugs,computer games etc, as long as we are distracted.
I think religion is one of the worst and im glad its failing, however i see a new religion called atheism and new age popping up so we will see how bad these two get.
It seems uneducated people or those who are kept chasing a carrot so to speak will always need leaders to look up to.

This may be down to our conditioning from school programming and television programming also, im not 100% sure.
Maybe these mechanism are targeted at a natural human need to follow a leader within a "tribe"/"group".
Havent seen the video rom the op in about 6 months easy so maybe theres somethign there aleady explaining this...i should really have watched it again lol

I think i remember hearing him talk about taking apart the family unit.Which appears to be relevant today still.

I know of people who are a couples but officially live seperate and have kids because they get paid more for it.
So for the poor its easier to be single and have kids than it is to be together as a family.
Or i know of women who have kids with whoever because they will get more allowances being single with kids.
Maybe im ignorant of something there, but it seems as a government if you support this behaviour alot more than supporting other preferences you will have this result more and more , whic is what i have been noticing amongs friends of friends and in general anyway.

hooradiation

shedweller wrote: »

In fairness, i see how PC can be interpreted as a type of brainwashing. Certain things are considered wrong or taboo to talk about so people dont do it.

Hardly.

Most people apply a little thought to what they say and the audience to whom they are speaking.
Placing a filter between your brain and mouth doesn't mean your brainwashed, it means you've successfully managed to make the transition into the adult world.

Jonny7

Torakx wrote: »

The media is constantly "brainwashing" those who participate even myself who happens to be very conscious of this stuff notice effects in my attitudes based on social conditioning and from watching movies(hollywood types).

How is it brainwashing if it's indirect?

In my view there is possibly an organised plot to mislead people in many facets of everyday life.
Doesnt matter if its sports, religion,eating,drugs,computer games etc, as long as we are distracted.

Oranised by who exactly, names please, what the clear motive and end goal is, and give examples.

Torakx

Your oppinion and that of the average person might be its indirect, but i dont see it that way.
Are you familiar with David Lynch's films?
Im only getting into his stuff recently, just started watching twin peaks lol
Im not going to bother trying to explain my version of this possible plot.
Its just too big and unfounded "factually" for most to digest in one go.

It started when i researched the foundations of some of the christian cult religions, mainly the one i was brought up in.
While also reading about american history regarding politics.
There was a few connections and after a few years reading about this stuff a picture started to form.
You can say its biased and what i wish to see, i will say its an overall view based on indepth research,or as much as it is possible to get a hold of some of this information.
Ex members(apostates),actual history documented etc.

Honestly im not going to get into a to and fro for nothing.how do you compress several years reading into a forums?
I have an overall vew of a plot, but no idea who it leads to..
The only answer i could say is there MIGHT be a group who do not speak of their bussiness to the public and have coordinated religious cults to be founded all across amercia and then internationally...and thats only christian/satanic cults! never mind the eastern part of the world, ive only an idea of how bad it could be there too.

shedweller

hooradiation wrote: »

shedweller wrote: »

Most people apply a little thought to what they say and the audience to whom they are speaking.
Placing a filter between your brain and mouth doesn't mean your brainwashed, it means you've successfully managed to make the transition into the adult world.

I certainly agree with that. But the amount of filters we need to use in daily conversation is increasing steadily. It's getting out of hand imo.

hooradiation

shedweller wrote: »

I certainly agree with that. But the amount of filters we need to use in daily conversation is increasing steadily. It's getting out of hand imo.

Lots of people will claim this is the case, but seem to be really short on actual examples when pressed.

Can you succeed where so many have failed?

shedweller

Non national
African american
Member of the travelling community
The whole anti semitism crap when anyone is critical of something israel has done
Baa baa rainbow sheep, instead of black sheep (that may be a wind up)
Equal rights for women.............i'm joking!!
Happy holidays
Etc etc

Monty Burnz

shedweller wrote: »

The whole anti semitism crap when anyone is critical of something israel has done

I don't think that's political correctness to be fair - that's a deliberate effort by 'friends of Israel' of some stripe to conflate criticism of the Israeli state with criticism of Jewish people in general.

Torakx

Sounds like politics to me
And we are still talking about political correctness hehe

Jonny7

shedweller wrote: »

Non national
African american
Member of the travelling community
The whole anti semitism crap when anyone is critical of something israel has done
Baa baa rainbow sheep, instead of black sheep (that may be a wind up)
Equal rights for women.............i'm joking!!
Happy holidays
Etc etc

It's common sense, unless you miss the days when someone could be publicly racist. Some of it is nonsense (Christmas, "differently abled people", etc) but it's hardly some giant conspiracy to make sure we don't offend each other.. jaysus

Monty Burnz

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I don't think that's political correctness to be fair - that's a deliberate effort by 'friends of Israel' of some stripe to conflate criticism of the Israeli state with criticism of Jewish people in general.

Actually, as a follow-up to my own post, it's interesting how there is also an overlap between some CT fans and racist/anti-semitic/right-wing/neo-nazi thinking. I was reminded by this story today from the BBC:

A far-right Austrian politician has caused anger after posting a cartoon on Facebook, likened to anti-Semitic Nazi propaganda.

Heinz-Christian Strache posted a caricature of a banker with a hooked nose, wearing Star of David cufflinks.

Austrian Jewish leader Oskar Deutsch likened it to images used by the Nazis in the 1930s.

Mr Strache, who leads the Freedom Party, has denied he was being anti-Semitic.

The cartoon was posted on Saturday, accompanied by a comment from Mr Strache decrying "EU banking speculators" for taking tax money from Austrians.

On Sunday Mr Strache posted a second version, labelled in English. The Star of David emblems had been removed from the banker's cufflinks and the shape of his nose had also been changed.

Both images show another figure labelled "The Government" pouring a drink for the banker, while a third, poorly clothed and thin figure labelled "The People", sits opposite the banker with a bone on his plate.

I think you can perhaps distinguish between left-wing and right-wing conspiracy theorists - the left-wing CTs take their inspiration from the writings of Marx and are concerned (justly) with social justice but are also perhaps blind to economic reality, and tend to blame many things on a nebulous idea of 'big business' or 'bankers' (who do indeed have questions to answer, but perhaps not to the extent that left-wing CTers think).

Then you have the right-wing CTers, who are inspired by religion (typically Christianity) and are inclined to be very conservative in their social attitudes and often incline towards anti-semitism, anti-homosexual, anti-socialist (and progressive social policy), anti-women etc. views.

Interestingly, in the last few decades, we've started to see Islamophobia start to become a force in right-wing CT thinking as they start to usurp 'the Jew' as the 'bad guy' du jour.

There's probably a decent thread to be had on this whole subject area, but I wonder if we could discuss it without folks getting too hot under the collar?

hooradiation

shedweller wrote: »

Non national

Funny thing about that. In Ireland at least the term "non-national" is a legal term and has been since the mid 1950's

Clearly, time travelling PC madness.....

shedweller wrote: »

African american

Asian American, Irish American, Italian American, German American, Dutch American... the list goes on and on.
Unsurprisingly, <X>-American is an amazingly common method of self-identifying in a land made up almost exclusively or immigrants.
Who knew?

shedweller wrote: »

Member of the travelling community

While that is a bit of a mouthful, the more traditional tinker, traveller etc are still mostly pejoratives, usually coupled with actual insults because, well, people are shitty like that.

And let's be honest here, while this might well be the official designation it's not really having the effect of censorship that you're claiming. A brief foray in the cestpool that is AH will show you that. Or anywhere, really.

shedweller wrote: »

The whole anti semitism crap when anyone is critical of something israel has done

Yeah, I'm not sure that one is even real.
And while Israel, like every other country on earth, is justifiably criticised when it acts the dick, there is an unfortunate habit of people to simply blame "the Jews" then have to walk it back to "the Zionists" when people point out how stupid the previous is.
This isn't "anti semitism crap" it's people saying stupid things and dealing poorly with having that pointed out to them
Which is the basis for 95% of these "political correctness gone maaaaaad" hullabaloos.

shedweller wrote: »

Baa baa rainbow sheep, instead of black sheep (that may be a wind up)

That is indeed, a "wind up".

shedweller wrote: »

Happy holidays

You do understand that not everyone celebrates christmas, right?
And not just as in atheists don't believe in gods kind of thing, but there are three other festivals that occur in and around the same time - Hanukkah, Eid and Kwanzaa, and probably some more I don't know of, because winter harvest festivals are totally a thing in tonnes of cultures and religions.

"Happy holidays" is a nice, convenient catch all phrase that covers everything without having to get specific.