time between tempo and lsr run

average_runner

Hi all.
Quick question. If you do a tempo or 6x 1k on Thursday, is sat morning too early for a lsr or pace run ?

Thanks

ecoli

average_runner wrote: »

Hi all.
Quick question. If you do a tempo or 6x 1k on Thursday, is sat morning too early for a lsr or pace run ?

Thanks

Listen to your body and see how you feel some people recover from sessions quicker than others. Personally I run a session Saturday and a LSR sunday without any ill effects so it is possible but again its individual to the person

TFBubendorfer

My coach had me do a tempo run on Saturday and a long run on Sunday when I was training for a marathon.

rom

average_runner wrote: »

Hi all.
Quick question. If you do a tempo or 6x 1k on Thursday, is sat morning too early for a lsr or pace run ?

Thanks

Have been doing the same for about the last 3 months with a LSR on Sat but Friday is the day that I am most likely to take off in the week. I do session mon thurs and LSR on sat. I find the thurs one hardest of the three if that makes sense. but checking resting heart rate each morning will give you a better guide to what it takes out of you. Also things like having the LSR is the evening on Sat and the tempo on the morning say in thurs would give much more recovery time.

average_runner

rom wrote: »

average_runner wrote: »

Hi all.
Quick question. If you do a tempo or 6x 1k on Thursday, is sat morning too early for a lsr or pace run ?

Thanks

Have been doing the same for about the last 3 months with a LSR on Sat but Friday is the day that I am most likely to take off in the week. I do session mon thurs and LSR on sat. I find the thurs one hardest of the three if that makes sense. but checking resting heart rate each morning will give you a better guide to what it takes out of you. Also things like having the LSR is the evening on Sat and the tempo on the morning say in thurs would give much more recovery time.

The reason I asked the question is I seem to have a mental block when I hit 13 miles even at slow pace or marathon pace.

rom

average_runner wrote: »

The reason I asked the question is I seem to have a mental block when I hit 13 miles even at slow pace or marathon pace.

You need to give a lot more detail on what you mean exactly here? Reading your log I can see more clearly what you are doing. Do you wear a HRM and have garmin or similar stats for last sat 16 miles ? you took on water at 9 miles on a hot day on a long run. that is not replicating what you will be doing in DCM. Any gels ? drinking just water and how much ? were your legs cramping at that stage ? how did you feel afterwards that evening ? Is mental block fatigue ? How did you hydrate before the LSR ?

average_runner

rom wrote: »

average_runner wrote: »

The reason I asked the question is I seem to have a mental block when I hit 13 miles even at slow pace or marathon pace.

You need to give a lot more detail on what you mean exactly?

Ok. Basically I did Dublin marathon last year but pull at 13 miles due to just wrecked tired as was doing a lot of travelling.

So last few weeks I did 16 miles run. One slow and one with 6 lsr and 10 at pm pace. But at 13 I seem to struggle. But on Monday I would do 12 miles and it be no problem.

First I thought tempo on Thursday was issue but not sure now.

All in head it seems to be.

rom

average_runner wrote: »

Ok. Basically I did Dublin marathon last year but pull at 13 miles due to just wrecked tired as was doing a lot of travelling.

So last few weeks I did 16 miles run. One slow and one with 6 lsr and 10 at pm pace. But at 13 I seem to struggle. But on Monday I would do 12 miles and it be no problem.

First I thought tempo on Thursday was issue but not sure now.

All in head it seems to be.

Correct me if I am wrong you seem to be doing 25 or less miles a week according to your log for the last few months and then you did a single run of 16 miles which would be like 2/3's of your weekly mileage normally or am I reading it wrong ? I think there is some rule where your long run should not be more that 50% of the rest of your weekly mileage or something like that. 2/3's in one run seems a lot ?

average_runner

rom wrote: »

average_runner wrote: »

Ok. Basically I did Dublin marathon last year but pull at 13 miles due to just wrecked tired as was doing a lot of travelling.

So last few weeks I did 16 miles run. One slow and one with 6 lsr and 10 at pm pace. But at 13 I seem to struggle. But on Monday I would do 12 miles and it be no problem.

First I thought tempo on Thursday was issue but not sure now.

All in head it seems to be.

Correct me if I am wrong you seem to be doing 25 or less miles a week according to your log for the last few months and then you did a single run of 16 miles which would be like 2/3's of your weekly mileage normally or am I reading it wrong ? I think there is some rule where your long run should not be more that 50% of the rest of your weekly mileage or something like that. 2/3's in one run seems a lot ?

Before I started schedule I had 3 long runs of 11 and a recovery week as was sick. First week of plan I did 35 miles and 13 lsr with 8 at pace. That was grand. Then lsr move to 16.

If mileage was a issue why is Monday's 12 miles not a issue?

rom

average_runner wrote: »

Before I started schedule I had 3 long runs of 11 and a recovery week as was sick. First week of plan I did 35 miles and 13 lsr with 8 at pace. That was grand. Then lsr move to 16.

If mileage was a issue why is Monday's 12 miles not a issue?

So you were doing 25 miles a week for a while and the first week of your plan you did 35 miles ?

average_runner

rom wrote: »

average_runner wrote: »

Before I started schedule I had 3 long runs of 11 and a recovery week as was sick. First week of plan I did 35 miles and 13 lsr with 8 at pace. That was grand. Then lsr move to 16.

If mileage was a issue why is Monday's 12 miles not a issue?

So you were doing 25 miles a week for a while and the first week of your plan you did 35 miles ?

Yeah 25 to 28. Plan said once u were doing 25 and long run close to lsr u should be grand. Just a little bit of jump?

rom

average_runner wrote: »

Yeah 25 to 28. Plan said once u were doing 25 and long run close to lsr u should be grand. Just a little bit of jump?

Have you a link to the plan ?

average_runner

rom wrote: »

average_runner wrote: »

Yeah 25 to 28. Plan said once u were doing 25 and long run close to lsr u should be grand. Just a little bit of jump?

Have you a link to the plan ?

It's p&d 12 week plan. Up to 55 miles. Not on the web. Did the 18 week one last year.