World War 3 about to kick off?

drunkmonkey

Saudi has order all it's people out of the lebanon, I think Israel is about to go on the war path to Iran through lebanon and Syria?

"(Reuters) - Saudi Arabia has ordered its citizens to leave Lebanon "immediately", the state news agency reported in an SMS alert on Wednesday.

"The Saudi Arabian embassy in Lebanon calls all Saudi citizens to leave Lebanon immediately," the alert said, without elaborating."


Think this guy is on the button. it really does look like a Conspiracy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOr4Xkp-rnA

Israel have never been more ready, they reckon the war will only last 30 days, http://www.worldnewstribune.com/2012/08/16/senior-israeli-home-front-is-ready-as-never-before-in-the-countrys-history/

omen80

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Think this guy is on the button. it really does look like a Conspiracy.

If you look for a conspiracy you will find one.

Torakx

omen80 wrote: »

If you look for a conspiracy you will find one.

If you look for the truth you'l find it...
Both statements are true in the right circumstances.
When it comes to war somebody is conspiring.How could they not.

All that means nothing in the end..how about the topic?


http://times247.com/articles/israeli-intel-obama-should-threaten-attack-on-iran
Talk about a bunch of hypocrits.
The yanks are more likely to use nukes (Even history cant hide that) than any other place.
Yet they are the nuke police of the planet..such a lol

omen80

Torakx wrote: »

If you look for the truth you'l find it...
Both statements are true in the right circumstances.
When it comes to war somebody is conspiring.How could they not.

Yes but the conspiracy theorist's mind doesn't seek the truth, it seeks the conspiracy. The truth is usually too boring for them.

Torakx

Even a broken clock can be right twice a day
Id rather have all aspects of a situation put in front of me than one general rendition full of bias.
This is why i like Ct's so much.
Its not about predicting terrible things.Its about seeing the world as it is and learning the possibilities..to me anyway.
To insinuate all CT's are bias and therefore wrong is a little ignorant of Ct's i think.

omen80

Torakx wrote: »

.....
Its not about predicting terrible things.Its about seeing the world as it is and learning the possibilities..to me anyway.
To insinuate all CT's are bias and therefore wrong is a little ignorant of Ct's i think.

This could not be further from the truth! That's actually one of the most laughable things I've ever heard. Conspiracy theorists pick and choose what they want to believe in even if the facts don't support their theory.

Torakx

omen80 wrote: »

This could not be further from the truth! That's actually one of the most laughable things I've ever heard. Conspiracy theorists pick and choose what they want to believe in even if the facts don't support their theory.

Your using a bias and applying it to everyone under a certain category, i dont ussually adhere to those stereo types.

Why do you think the video in the original post is ficticious?
Or what is it about this that seems untrue?

Looks like theres a conspiracy to undermine Iran.
Whats your take on why Israel are propegating war in the middle east?

omen80

Torakx wrote: »

Your using a bias and applying it to everyone under a certain category, i dont ussually adhere to those stereo types.

Yes my original statement was a general statement about all conspiracy theories. If you don't want to be in the conspiracy theorist category then I suggest you leave it, otherwise my statement also applies to you.
The way the OP stated "it really does look like a Conspiracy" made me imagine that he/she literally goes through newspapers and videos looking for conspiracies. I'm not saying that there is or there isn't a conspiracy in this case but I'm not looking for one and generally take all of them with a pinch of salt.

Torakx

I think people are way too wrapped up on labels.
The words conspiracy theory have been demonized so much in the media that as soon as its mentioned it initiated some kind of gut reaction in people.

Of all categories within Ct's war would have to be the most likely to have some conspiracy going on in the background.

Unless a person comes from a very simple point of view and thinks its purely humanitarian.

Jonny7

Torakx wrote: »

I think people are way too wrapped up on labels.
The words conspiracy theory have been demonized so much in the media that as soon as its mentioned it initiated some kind of gut reaction in people.

So it's completely different if you are down the pub and tell people that Obama is the anti-Christ?

Run_to_da_hills

Jonny7 wrote: »

So it's completely different if you are down the pub and tell people that Obama is the anti-Christ?

But he is.

old_aussie

Lebanese Shi'ite clan seized more than 20 people in Beirut and said a Turkish hostage, whose country is a key backer of Syria's mainly Sunni Muslim insurgency, would be the first to die if a kinsman held by Syrian rebels were killed.

The powerful Shi'ite Meqdad family is seeking to put pressure on rebels fighting to topple Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to release clan member Hassan al-Meqdad, who has been held by the Free Syrian Army (FSA) for two days.

The clan has targeted Syrians it believes belong to the FSA, as well as citizens of Turkey, one of the rebels' regional sponsors.

An earlier threat by the kidnappers to seize Saudis, Turks and Qataris to secure the release of a kinsman held by Syrian rebels in Damascus bore ominous echoes of Lebanon's own civil war - and Arab governments lost no time in urging visitors to leave Beirut's popular summer tourist haunts.

Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Kuwait and Bahrain all told their nationals to leave at once. Some nations have already begun flying their citizens home.

Forecast for Lebanon....

Fine and Sunni in the morning, turning mostly Shi'ite at dusk.

Jonny7

Torakx wrote: »

Even a broken clock can be right twice a day
Id rather have all aspects of a situation put in front of me than one general rendition full of bias.

Since when does speculation and gossip suffice as information?

This is why i like Ct's so much.
Its not about predicting terrible things.Its about seeing the world as it is and learning the possibilities..to me anyway.
To insinuate all CT's are bias and therefore wrong is a little ignorant of Ct's i think.

Plenty of conspiracy theories from North Korea..

weisses

Jonny7 wrote: »

Since when does speculation and gossip suffice as information?

Well it is information .. what the recipient does with it is a different story

Jonny7 wrote: »

Plenty of conspiracy theories from North Korea..

Can you five a few hints there Johnny ?

Torakx

Jonny7 wrote: »

Since when does speculation and gossip suffice as information?



Plenty of conspiracy theories from North Korea..

Well dont be shy with them, i am always open to more info

Jonny7

Torakx wrote: »

Well dont be shy with them, i am always open to more info

Oh I've tried, there ain't much interest to say the least. If it isn't the West, the US or Israel then it loses it's "intrigue" somewhat.

Torakx

No way, im genuinely suprised.
I havent seen any threads on North Korea that i can remember.

davoxx

Torakx wrote: »

No way, im genuinely suprised.
I havent seen any threads on North Korea that i can remember.

well they have nukes, so usa and co stay far away as possible ... but still
http://www.boards.ie/search/submit/?subforums=1&forum=576&query=north+korea

Jonny7

davoxx wrote: »

well they have nukes, so usa and co stay far away as possible ... but still
http://www.boards.ie/search/submit/?subforums=1&forum=576&query=north+korea

I think you just proved my point, thanks

Torakx

Ah yes i did catch one of those threads but seemed to have missed or forgotten the rest.
I posted i remember in the one on North Korean propoganda.
Im curious what other Ct's you have on this area of the world.
I dont really research much these days.
Alot of the research i did do was on the west of the world.So im not in much of a position to post Ct's on N.Korea.

But if there any new ones popping up or old ones renewed i would surely be as interested as i am on the western world.

weisses

Jonny7 wrote: »

I think you just proved my point, thanks

They are not from north korea .... North korea is mentioned in them yes .

davoxx

Jonny7 wrote: »

I think you just proved my point, thanks

i'm not too sure, was your point was that there was ct about north korea? then why say there was none?
why say that you tried when you haven't?

list some ct about north korea that people refuse to consider, i for one am open minded to anything, except bs ...

Torakx

Hey, im even open to BS haha
I mean i love a bit of fantasy now and then.
A bit of Tsarion on atlantis for example.Mind you his work/lectures on some other stuff is quite good and worth a look.
Just recently saw he has some stuff on the female illuminatti.theres something you dont hear much about, maybe for good reason!
we are always saying the real buggers are creeping in the background.Maybe the world is run by women
Oh the irony.
And also i noticed he covers the topic i posted a thread about(IRA being run by the english/yanks) and got shot down over.He covers it much better and thorough ofc.
But yeah i think johnny should post his Ct on N korea because im not sure which one he means.

There have been fingers pointed at them for WW3 with the west and it seems to have been overshadowed by the middle east for now.
Who knows. Maybe it will be.These things tend to pop seemingly out of nowhere, much like 9/11 at the time.

davoxx

Torakx wrote: »

Hey, im even open to BS haha
I mean i love a bit of fantasy now and then.
A bit of Tsarion for example.
But yeah i think johnny should post his Ct on N korea because im not sure which one he means.

There have been fingers pointed at them for WW3 with the west and it seems to have been overshadowed by the middle east for now.
Who knows. Maybe it will be.These things tend to pop seemingly out of nowhere, much like 9/11 at the time.

i don't think North Korea will be involved (initially at least) in the next war.

i think it is going to be Israel attacking Lebanon with the coalition attacking Syria for using chemical weapons (much easier to prove, throw some fertilizer in a silo and bam!! instance chemical weapons) which will allow them to attack Iran and install another democratically elected puppet, like Libya

though as pointed out russia/china/india might still act if syria/iran was threatened ... and if they did, this would lead to WWIII.

Torakx

It seems that way alright.
I just have this other feeling in the back of my mind that anything predictable to a certain extent is not worth doing in the eyes of a global dictatorship.
The situation in the middle east is so obvious its nearly transparent.
Just seems too easy sometimes.
Although the fact they can spin some stories here and get away with it is true, im still open to the idea there will be a sudden strike from some quiet place that will throw the whole world on its head and cause a massive massive war.
The middle east could be just more of the ussual.
The Americans, English, French andGermans etc playing the usual games around Isreal, while something nasty could be brewing on the horizon.
The eastern horizon.

Jonny7

davoxx wrote: »

i'm not too sure, was your point was that there was ct about north korea? then why say there was none?
why say that you tried when you haven't?

list some ct about north korea that people refuse to consider, i for one am open minded to anything, except bs ...

Most if not all the CT's you used the search for were ironically about the US in relation to North Korea.

As for North Korea CT's? I mean where to start? one of the Kim Il's had a whole bunch of "short people" shipped off to godforsaken islands to rid the place of them, a bunch of generals were recently offed, sportsmen and women being severely punished if they lose, the death camps, etc, etc

weisses

Jonny7 wrote: »

I mean where to start? one of the Kim Il's had a whole bunch of "short people" shipped off to godforsaken islands to rid the place of them,

Not true imo



Rumor is that North Korea was making its own version of the hobbit

--Kaiser--

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Saudi has order all it's people out of the lebanon, I think Israel is about to go on the war path to Iran through lebanon and Syria?

Ridiculous, braindead theory. If Israel wanted to attack Iran all it has to do is nuke Iran. No need for a ground war

weisses

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

Ridiculous, braindead theory. If Israel wanted to attack Iran all it has to do is nuke Iran. No need for a ground war

If his was a "braindead" theory ... then what would we call your theory ??

davoxx

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

Ridiculous, braindead theory. If Israel wanted to attack Iran all it has to do is nuke Iran. No need for a ground war

just like that? and what about the nuclear fall out? or the oil that the west wants?

i'm not sure you understand what is involved in launching a nuke ... you know that russia/china/india/pakistain all have nukes? do you think they would sit by when their sensors picked up a nuke?

your reason for dismissing the possibility of isreal staring a war is wrong.

Jonny7

weisses wrote: »

Not true imo



Rumor is that North Korea was making its own version of the hobbit

Cool, I'll post it up and see if a mysterious role-reversal takes place or it's completely ignored

Torakx

Just leave me room to write "so whats the conspiracy"