The 757...

Fabio

It seems the 757 is becoming quite a popular plane for the North Atlantic route and it led me to think about the old mootings of Cork Airport doing transatlantic flights from a few years back.

As a single aisle aircraft I wonder would the 757 be able to to a transatlantic route from Cork? It seems the 757 is perfect for secondary routes over the big pond...whether or not it'd make money is another question but technically could it do it? With a relatively full load...

muppet01

757 is quiet handy for low density routes but reliability seems to becoming an issue, they seem to go tech a lot. I for one prefer a twin aisle on long haul specially on a 2-4-2 set up.
That said there a charter from Canada nxt month for notre dame event listed as a 737-8 via Iceland

Nonoperational

757s are (or have been) used for Dublin to East Coast Us flights so no reason it couldn't from Cork. I know the Cork runway is short so I don't know about a fully loaded one but I'd guess it'd be ok.

The 757 is a great plane. They are still in high demand and until the A321 neo comes along there's nothing really filling the same niche.

Davidth88

When I was a spotter back in the 80's we used to call the 757 ' The tube '


737 = pig
747 - lump


The Manchester spotters used to call the TU134 the spider .... don't know why,


TBH never liked the look of the aircraft , and having flown Continental across the pond a few times , its horrible across there ... single aisle is a pain , any service and you can't move around the cabin

kub

There are quite a few charter 757's operating on Cork routes during the summer season, granted fuel loads may be different, but it does seem to be the tool for the job.

Actually if memory serves me correctly, Slatterys travel in Tralee were planning on setting up a charter type service to JFK out of Cork a few years ago using a 757. But fuel prices at the time called a halt to it.

GoAround

I have being across the Atlantic a few times with Aer Lingus, AA and Delta. For luck it was a 2-4-2 seating, I would hate to travel in a 757 during an ocean crossing.... In fact i wouldnt book with an airline that did..

A320

kub wrote: »

Actually if memory serves me correctly, Slatterys travel in Tralee were planning on setting up a charter type service to JFK out of Cork a few years ago using a 757. But fuel prices at the time called a halt to it.

Ah i remember that,I think it got a bit politcal was the real reason,typical.

Cork's runway is no problem for a B757,B767 and i may be corrected on the A330 to east coast USA ,I remember seeing an A330 using 16 at dublin to LAX,remember the aircraft doesn't need to be full of fuel to operate a flight/

Anyone know why the B737-900ER never took off????

''Certified for up to 220 passengers in a high density seating configuration
Flies up to 3,235 nmi (5,990 km) with two auxiliary fuel tanks
Weighs over 11,000 pounds (5,020 kg) less than its competitor
Has lowest cash operating costs per seat-mile; about 7 percent lower trip cost, and 5 percent lower per seat-mile cost than its closest competitor''

Plowman

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Skuxx

Plowman wrote: »

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I agree 100% that they are a sexy looking aircraft, and they do the transatlantic route very well, especially the less popular ones. I know there is one into Shannon everyday form Newark and US Airways fly one into Dublin form Philadelphia.
I flew to Philadelphia 2 weeks ago and chose to the BA route through LHR as the 757 isn't the most comfortable for 7 hours across the Atlantic.
Coming back tomorrow from Newark to Shannon and again taking the BA route via LHR

joey12

I cannot praise the 757 enough. It really has secured certain Ireland-USA services. Shannon would be a very quiet place without this aircraft, its a fantastic aircraft, nice powerful take off:) .
I'm a regular on the United snn-ewr service and had only good experiences. We switched from Aer Lingus after a few bad trips.

As for TA services from Cork, I doubt there will anything for a few years. Shannon and Dublin are too close both having pre clearance. Also Cork has good feed into a number of hubs for connections. But I wouldn't rule out a charter service to Orlando.

Nonoperational

It does have a lovely powerful take off...

radar0976

We had a 757 in Cork as recently as this Summer. However she was only operating a charter to Lourdes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyFK5-nSqBM

Nonoperational

Great livery on the nose, looks like it's having a look around when it lands!

roundymac

Note the Irish reg on it. Most Italian airlines seem to have Irish reg aircraft.

drdeadlift

Worked on an ice air 757 for 6 months,it had been just taken out of storage from some place in Mexico.The thing wasn't in the best shape but by dam that thing could climb like a rocket.

Tenger

gpf101 wrote: »

............The 757 is a great plane. They are still in high demand and until the A321NEO comes along there's nothing really filling the same niche.

Fixed that sentence for you

Mr Benevolent

It's commonly known as 'Big Tits', for obvious reasons. The vertical performance of a lightly loaded 757 is stunning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_F8G8YLy7o

GoAround

Dont get me wrong, it looks great and may have the performance but its just not my cup of tea when it comes to TA crossings... I would rather a a330 or 767 anyday. I think I would nearly go to Heathrow or Paris to get a flight if the 757 was the only flight available out of EIDW.. I flew to Atlanta last year with Delta on a 767 and the 8 and half or 9 hours was long enough, for luck there was a few empty rows in the back where I stretched out. Dont think you could even manage that with the 3x3 seat formation of the 757...

Nonoperational

It's not a whole lot worse than being in a middle or window seat in any other aircraft really. The seat pitch is the important thing. The twin isles are nice alright but I don't think it'd be a deal breaker for me!

LeftBase

Fabio wrote: »

It seems the 757 is becoming quite a popular plane for the North Atlantic route and it led me to think about the old mootings of Cork Airport doing transatlantic flights from a few years back.

As a single aisle aircraft I wonder would the 757 be able to to a transatlantic route from Cork? It seems the 757 is perfect for secondary routes over the big pond...whether or not it'd make money is another question but technically could it do it? With a relatively full load...

Cork has a dogey ILS and Ireland is too small for 3 TA airports. Weather is also an issue.

Preset No.3

GoAround wrote: »

Dont get me wrong, it looks great and may have the performance but its just not my cup of tea when it comes to TA crossings... I would rather a a330 or 767 anyday. I think I would nearly go to Heathrow or Paris to get a flight if the 757 was the only flight available out of EIDW.. I flew to Atlanta last year with Delta on a 767 and the 8 and half or 9 hours was long enough, for luck there was a few empty rows in the back where I stretched out. Dont think you could even manage that with the 3x3 seat formation of the 757...

Could you explain what the 757 problem is? You get to your destination, and you clear immigration in Dublin.

Tenger

Preset No.3 wrote: »

Could you explain what the 757 problem is? You get to your destination, and you clear immigration in Dublin.

I think he dislikes the somewhat cramped feel of a single aisle aircraft for a 5hours+ flight. As opposed to the twin aisle B767/A330.

Skuxx

Preset No.3 wrote: »

Could you explain what the 757 problem is? You get to your destination, and you clear immigration in Dublin.

That maybe correct, but personally it just feels very cramped on such a long trip!!
I flew back from America yesterday, BA 767 and it was great, the 2-3-2 config gives a great feeling of space, and the 3 in the middle is slightly staggered behind the outside seat rows so gives a feeling of even more space!!

L1011

roundymac wrote: »

Note the Irish reg on it. Most Italian airlines seem to have Irish reg aircraft.

Italian aviation authority won't issue I- regs to foreign owned aircraft and most of the European lessors are legally based here. Does create an odd sight when you see Alitalia planes with EI- regs!

BeardySi

aaah, was wondering about that last time I was in Milan and noticed the whole Alitalia fleet there was EI registered....