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Privately Taxing Commercial Vehicle

  • 16-08-2012 1:56pm
    #1
    Ants Murray
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭


    Hi ... I know that this question has been asked a million times but please bear with me I'm totally confused! Any ideas how much it would be to tax a 05 Citroen C4 car/van? Have a really good offer on one but don't want to go down the route of stating it'll be used for business use only as I don't have a business and wanna be covered by insurance ..... thanks in advance for your help!


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  • #2
    dahamsta
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    Motortax.ie


  • #3
    alias no.9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,352 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    Same as any car of similar cc under the pre 2008 system.


  • #4
    sheehan12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭sheehan12


    why would you buy carvan and tax it privately you will have no back seat. that is mad


  • #5
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    sheehan12 wrote: »
    why would you buy carvan and tax it privately you will have no back seat. that is mad

    No its not

    I did this for a year and a half. Traffic corps were happy I was using the van privately as it was taxed as so, I could use it whenever I liked and still had room in the back for tonnes of stuff

    More people at that than you think ;)


  • #6
    sheehan12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭sheehan12


    i drive a commercial jeep and used it privately all the time. the garda did t care because it tax


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  • #7
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    sheehan12 wrote: »
    i drive a commercial jeep and used it privately all the time. the garda did t care because it tax

    Which is all well and good untill you meet a gard that does give a shít, then the fun begins with awkward questions such as purpose of said van, where were you just coming from, was it a commercial purpose, can you back it up, can I see your certs etc etc etc. Been there, done that

    Mark my words, they are out there.

    OP, get the engine size and see here


  • #8
    sheehan12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭sheehan12


    have it last 5 year and no awkward questions asked and that with a crewcab. but it help i have a bussiness


  • #9
    166man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭166man


    Being a car-van I'd imagine it's diesel so it's probably the 1.6 HDi engine. In that case it would be circa €480 for tax a year. About €150 more than the commercial one but well worth the money.

    As dgt says if and when you find a Garda who does give a **** if it's taxed properly then you could be in a spot of bother. Easily worth the extra €150 a year for peace of mind imo.


  • #10
    goz83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭goz83


    Plus, your insurance will say "for social, domestic and pleasure". For €150, go with pvt tax. If it was a huge amount, i'd probably consider commercial tax, but would insure it as such too. Also helps that i have a business :)


  • #11
    sheehan12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭sheehan12


    goz83 wrote: »
    Plus, your insurance will say "for social, domestic and pleasure". For €150, go with pvt tax. If it was a huge amount, i'd probably consider commercial tax, but would insure it as such too. Also helps that i have a business :)
    will my commercial insurance say for use for sociol domestic and pleasure purposes and use in connection with the insured business so it is insurance for privately use


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  • #12
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    sheehan12 wrote: »
    will my commercial insurance say for use for sociol domestic and pleasure purposes and use in connection with the insured business so it is insurance for privately use

    It will state SDP on the policy to accomodate people with..... Privately taxed vans ;)

    It should be on your policy too.

    I went for a tear around the sally gap in the Hiace or lets bring the Berlingo to the Shelbourne just doesn't cut the mustard though :pac:


  • #13
    sheehan12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭sheehan12


    dgt wrote: »
    It will state SDP on the policy to accomodate people with..... Privately taxed vans ;)

    It should be on your policy too.

    I went for a tear around the sally gap in the Hiace or lets bring the Berlingo to the Shelbourne just doesn't cut the mustard though :pac:
    will when i insured the navara (crewcab) i said will i be insured for privately use they said yes it is insured for SOCIAL DOMESTIC AND PLEASURE PURPOSES AND IN CONNECTION WITH THE INSURED BUSINESS AND TO PULL A TRAILAR


  • #14
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    sheehan12 wrote: »
    will when i insured the navara (crewcab) i said will i be insured for privately use they said yes it is insured for SOCIAL DOMESTIC AND PLEASURE PURPOSES AND IN CONNECTION WITH THE INSURED BUSINESS AND TO PULL A TRAILAR

    I just said that.....!!!

    All commercial policies have to have SDP to acompany non commercial taxed vehicles.

    You are also covered for business purposes, which I can only imagine is not commercial but stuff like meetings, transporting employees etc. Not sure on business purposes, just taking a wild stab


  • #15
    sheehan12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭sheehan12


    i guess that put in for only one that not commercial tax in ireland:rolleyes:


  • #16
    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    sheehan12 wrote: »
    i guess that put in for only one that not commercial tax in ireland:rolleyes:

    I never said I had commercial insurance, did I.... ;)


  • #17
    keltoms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭keltoms


    Hi folks, i'll be buying a 2.2 commercially van next week and am wondering does anyone know can i renew the tax on it without providing a VAT number? (i dont have a business) i would tax it privately but its nearly 900 quid instead of the 300 if i tax it commercially.

    Any help would be great thanks


  • #18
    JBokeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭JBokeh


    keltoms wrote: »
    Hi folks, i'll be buying a 2.2 commercially van next week and am wondering does anyone know can i renew the tax on it without providing a VAT number? (i dont have a business) i would tax it privately but its nearly 900 quid instead of the 300 if i tax it commercially.

    Any help would be great thanks

    Depends where you live TBH,but your PPS will do. You'll have to sign a declaration saying you'll only be using it for business ;),think you've to go into the cop shop to do that.

    I think you'd want to be mad to tax a van privately,you're just throwing money away. I've had lots of commercials,all of which are commercials,and none of the jobs i've had mean i need one,just want the cheaper tax,and may as well because i don't need back seats. I have a car too,but that gets taxed once a year for 3 months as it only gets driven a couple of miles up the road every now an again by herself. In the last week i've noticed the amount of scaremongering people on this forum are at,we all need to live a little!


  • #19
    sheehan12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭sheehan12


    keltoms wrote: »
    Hi folks, i'll be buying a 2.2 commercially van next week and am wondering does anyone know can i renew the tax on it without providing a VAT number? (i dont have a business) i would tax it privately but its nearly 900 quid instead of the 300 if i tax it commercially.

    Any help would be great thanks
    NO can t tax it commercially if you do not have a business because you will have to fill out form rf111a. a declaration that the vehice will only be used as goods carrying vehice in course of the owners business. and some tax office look for proof of business . and if you tax it privately you might has to pay more vrt


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