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Recommend a pc for web browsing and office

  • 15-08-2012 09:55PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭


    I am currently using a Dell vostro 200 with windows vista. I use the pc for internet, word processing, storing music and pictures. Everything seems to take for ages so looking for recommendations for new pc so i can enjoy surfing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,835 ✭✭✭Torqay


    hargo wrote: »
    I am currently using a Dell vostro 200 with windows vista. I use the pc for internet, word processing, storing music and pictures. Everything seems to take for ages so looking for recommendations for new pc so i can enjoy surfing.

    Even with the most basic specs (E2180 Dual Core Pentium, 1 GB RAM), the Vostro 200 is still well able to satisfy your needs ("internet, word processing, storing music and pictures").

    Suggestions:

    1. Dump Vista and upgrade to Windows XP.

    2. Dump Vista, install to 2 or 4 GB RAM (cheap enough) and upgrade to Windows 7

    In any case, a fresh OS installation works miracles, there is really no reason to spend 4-500 yoyos for a new machine, considering your requirements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭Verres


    +1 on what Torquay wrote.

    Also consider getting an SSD. This will really speed up your photo / video viewing from the HD. You'd get a decent 80GB SSD for < €100 the last time I looked.

    If all you use the machine for is what's in the OP, then you should just polish that turd - no need to go out an buy a new machine. Many (most?) people don't realise what a difference a good OS and a bit of RAM can make to a struggling box.

    I just put faster RAM and an SSD in my old (2007) Macbook Pro and it runs like sweet greasy Jesus. That's even with Win7 running natively using a combo of Bootcamp Drivers ripped out of a (legit-owned) Bootcamp CD and SLIC virtual BIOS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭hargo


    Thanks lads . I have 2 gb of ram at present . Is that sufficient for windows 7.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭yoyo


    hargo wrote: »
    Thanks lads . I have 2 gb of ram at present . Is that sufficient for windows 7.

    More than ;) . 4GB will be a decent upgrade though particularly for when you have multiple programs running

    Nick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,835 ✭✭✭Torqay


    You might as well download Windows 8 now (32-bit is OK with 2 GB RAM), you can try it for 90 days and if you like it, you can buy the activation in October. All you need is an MSN account (free).


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭areyawell


    If you know anybody in college they can purchase windows seven a lot cheaper for you, like half the price of what it is normally. 2gb of ram is only like 20 quid. Or do what previous post says!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    I've been using a 2.0 Ghz Core2Duo for years. But moving to a 3Ghz Core2Duo speeded up browsing a lot. I think websites are much more demanding on processors these days. Well at least the ones I uses. P4 kinda struggle unless they are 2.8Ghz+. As for RAM 2GB I would say is a minimum.

    Granted a SSD speeds up even old machines, but they are pricey and have limited storage. But you can take it with you to your next machine.

    But bear in mind you can pick up a 2nd hand PC which is much faster than your own, for cheaper than upgrading your own PC. Then sell your own PC making a 2nd hand newer machine even cheaper. Be careful some people are looking looney prices for old machines.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,835 ✭✭✭Torqay


    areyawell wrote: »
    If you know anybody in college they can purchase windows seven a lot cheaper for you, like half the price of what it is normally. 2gb of ram is only like 20 quid. Or do what previous post says!

    A little bit more than that but still affordable. ;)

    The Vostro 200 has 4 slots and it can take PC5300 or PC6400. Knowing the cheapskates at Dell, there is probably 2 x 1 GB DDR2 PC5300 installed. 1 GB is the maximum per slot.

    A matching kit (2GB Transcend Jetram DDR2 667MHz PC2-5300 (CL5) Dual Channel memory kit) kosts €35 at shop4memory.com in Kildare (free delivery).

    Before you buy, check the type of memory currently installed. IIRC the BIOS will tell you the memory speed (667 or 800 MHz) or download SIW, go to Hardware > Memory and find the information there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,835 ✭✭✭Torqay


    BostonB wrote: »
    I've been using a 2.0 Ghz Core2Duo for years. But moving to a 3Ghz Core2Duo speeded up browsing a lot. I think websites are much more demanding on processors these days. Well at least the ones I uses.

    Dunno which sites you're visiting??? :D

    3 FF sessions here with 60+ tabs open and my C2D is hardly reaching 10%...
    BostonB wrote: »
    P4 kinda struggle unless they are 2.8Ghz+.

    A P4 maybe, but we're dealing here at least with an E2180, which is a second generation dual core Pentium from the same era as the Core 2 Duo.
    BostonB wrote: »
    Granted a SSD speeds up even old machines, but they are pricey and have limited storage. But you can take it with you to your next machine.

    As nice as SSDs are, they're not a necessity for basic requirements as described by the OP.
    BostonB wrote: »
    But bear in mind you can pick up a 2nd hand PC which is much faster than your own, for cheaper than upgrading your own PC. Then sell your own PC making a 2nd hand newer machine even cheaper. Be careful some people are looking looney prices for old machines.

    A 2nd hand improvement for the OPs current machine would be a high GHz C2D or a 1st gen. Core i3... those are not exactly cheap and you're still buying the cat in the bag. No, that Vostro is by no means a bad machine for the OP's requirements. With 4 GB RAM and a decent OS it should be good for at least another 3-4 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    I'm only giving alternative options.
    Torqay wrote: »
    Dunno which sites you're visiting??? :D

    3 FF sessions here with 60+ tabs open and my C2D is hardly reaching 10%...


    Having many pages open is a memory issue. Its the speed of rendering pages initially I was talking about.
    Torqay wrote: »
    A P4 maybe, but we're dealing here at least with an E2180, which is a CPU of the second generation dual core Pentiums from the same era as the Core 2 Duo.

    I know. I was just throwing that is a comparison, P4, low core duo, higher core 2 duo, and my impression of speed when browsing the web with them.
    Torqay wrote: »
    As nice as SSDs are, they're not a necessity for basic requirements as described by the OP.

    Maybe but they do make a system even an old one feel faster. At a cost. Which I pointed out.
    Torqay wrote: »
    A 2nd hand improvement for the OPs current machine would be a high GHz C2D or a 1st gen. Core i3... those are not exactly cheap and you're still buying the cat in the bag. No, that Vostro is by no means a bad machine for what the OP needs it. 4 GB RAM and a decent OS freshly installed should be good for at least another 3-4 years.

    I've bought a number mid to high end C2D machines from 2.4 to 3ghz and 4GB of ram all for 80~150 euro. Then sold an old machine for about 50% of that. The newer machine has more RAM, faster RAM, faster BUS, more cache, better HD than the old one. For me it makes things feel faster than the old machine.

    My only point was be careful spending money on upgrades on older machines there maybe little cost between that and simply buying a newer machine and sell the old one to offset the cost. Its just another option to consider.

    Bear in mind. You can build a new Intel 1155 machine for 260 ish. Link

    I'd also go with a new OS. XP or Windows 7 is much faster than Vista. Simply reinstalling windows often makes a machine much faster as you clear out all the crud. I found the Windows 8 is faster than Windows 7 thats even on a Core2Duo 1.5 with 2G GB of RAM. But I had to install Classic shell to give me back my desktop and start menu from Windows XP/7 into Windows 8.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,835 ✭✭✭Torqay


    BostonB wrote: »
    Maybe but they do make a system even an old one feel faster. At a cost. Which I pointed out.

    Here is what I'd do:

    Throw in a cheap 64 GB SSD, plenty space for the OS and software and use the old platter HDD as storage., Then, with 4 GB RAM, I'd create a 256 or 512 MB RAM disk and use it as sandbox container. Running the web browser sandboxed (apart from the obvious security benefits) in a RAM disk will speed up matters tremendously, as all caching will happen in the system memory which is plenty times faster than any SSD (this neat little trick also saves the precious SSD from the browser's write-request madness). ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Another thing I noticed that if the web connections is slow, router, wifi or network card, upgrading these can sometimes help the whole system. As so many things connect to the web these days, it can really drag your whole system down. Also turn off things like services or updates that you can do manually and don't load everything at startup, only load things when you need them, itunes, skype, messenger etc.


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