Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Women being used to sell products

  • 14-08-2012 12:03am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭


    Not sure if this is the place for it but was just curious about this.

    Maybe used is a strong word, but why is it, do you think that women selling products to men is so effective? And I don't mean models in posters.
    For example, a woman came to my door to try to get me to change over to Bord Gais. I did it, but it was also a better offer. The fact she was pretty may also have something to do with it.

    Same with a bar. Barmaids will always get better tips than the barmen. At least from personal experience working a bar.

    It's not like we honestly believe "Oh if I get this off her, then I'll have a chance"

    So was just wondering why do you think this is? And do women find the same when buying off guys?

    And I suppose a good example would be Friends when Chandler and Ross wanted to quit the gym/bank


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Simply, sex sells.

    It's probably harder to say no to a woman, for a lot of reasons.

    It's weird how it works. Two girls (both mid 20s and very good looking) called to my door selling a health insurance scheme. Now I have my own health insurance plus I am in a health benefits scheme in work and realistically I couldn't get a better deal elsewhere.

    Nonetheless, the girls came in for coffee and a biscuit for the guts of 30 mins (of which realistically 10 mins was about the health insurance stuff. It was was two guys, they wouldn't have gotten past 10 seconds of chit chat and certainly wouldn't get in the door. Ok the girls didn't get a sale but they got a lot more of an ear than anyone else would have got.

    For some, it might just harder to say no to a girl, than a guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Strange thing is I thought I had built an immunity to it since I used to work with a lot of girls in a hotel(function staff, bar staff, restaurant), a lot of whom were good looking. So I would be asked by them to do some jobs. I learned to say no and even learned to not fall for the puppy dog eyes(even learned to harness their power for myself a couple times. :))
    Guess I'm just too long out of there and am becoming vulnerable to a pretty girl's smile again.

    As for sex sells, like I said we know we don't have a hope. Like did you really think "Woohoo! 2 women for me!" or maybe we just live in hope


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Maybe a lot of men have a deep longing for attractive female company, even if it is only a fleeting exchange (eg: buying something from them)?


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Maybe a lot of men have a deep longing for attractive female company, even if it is only a fleeting exchange (eg: buying something from them)?

    Despite my crippling loneliness I still don't think it would work on me. :pac:

    Personally I've never made an impulse buy of more than a couple of euro so I'm thinking that advertising generally doesn't work on me unless it's just the classic putting sweets at the till.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Men like bewbs.

    for more on this send me money.


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Maybe a lot of men have a deep longing for attractive female company, even if it is only a fleeting exchange (eg: buying something from them)?

    That was a strategy in a high street retailer I used to work in just short of 6 years ago.

    It was seen to be easier for a pretty woman to get the attention of other people without much intrusion, so they'd be able to sell additional bits and bobs laid out throughout the counter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    I know you said it's not a "models in posters" thing - but that's where it stems from:

    It's not the first time it has been done:

    hello-boys.jpg

    nor will it be the last

    The-Best-Bits-in-the-World.jpg

    and nor is it solely a "women being used" sort of thing:

    AwU5vUqCQAA23MO.jpg

    In short - sex sells, ads are eyecatching and you talk abotu them (as I just have) then the advertisers have done their job....whether you like the ad or not, you are talking about it!

    Its the way we are going - the AMOUNT of free publicity that hunky doreys got for those sports based ads were incredible - and genius!

    Good looking people also get your attention and you are more likely to talk to them for longer (according to some social psychologists) - go to a meeting of one of these "door to door sales" companies and you will see all these tricks! Posters and adverts are where it starts - then direct marketing just followed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭Hardonraging


    I think i need to pick up some oranges on the way home... :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    We had a salesperson in my last job and she outsold everyone else. She was older and a bit of a rough diamond, she wasn't even that good at her job or professional. I think peoples defences are just down when it's a woman trying to sell them stuff.

    Women are affected by this phenomenon too, in case you hadn't noticed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Can't say I noticed getting as many tips as the girls when working the bar. Though that may be due to mostly guys coming up for the drink. And don't think my charm would work on them, or at least most of them.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭cyrusdvirus


    Years and years ago, back when i was working on the shop floor of a retailer we conducted a little experiment...

    This was back in the days before barcodes were used to price everything so everything was keyed at the till.

    We put one stunning looking girl on Checkout 3 and one not so good looking girl on Checkout 2. These 2 tills were the 2 busiest in the store on a normal day anyway, as they had the largest gap between them and the next tills along, so for bulky items it was easier for the operator and customer.

    Anyway, the stunning looking girl would not have been the fastest till operator in the world, while the not so good looking girl was the fastest and most accurate till operator we had, and would go through a trolley of goods in half the time of the rest of the staff....

    Either way, guess which girl had more sales go through her till that day..... when faced with a choice of efficiency, speed and accuracy verses beauty and waiting the vast majority of customers decided to wait.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    It was seen to be easier for a pretty woman to get the attention of other people without much intrusion, so they'd be able to sell additional bits and bobs laid out throughout the counter.
    Note that terms such as 'pretty' or 'attractive' have been repeatedly used in this discussion, because ultimately there's a big difference between a pretty twenty-something sales bunny knocking on your door to sell you insurance and Mrs Doyle knocking on your door for the same reason. Actually for any reason.

    That's because we're genetically programmed to respond more favourably to attractive people, regardless of gender.
    Uriel. wrote: »
    It's probably harder to say no to a woman, for a lot of reasons.
    Oddly enough, there's not been many serious attempts here to analyse what those reasons may be, just that there's "reasons".

    So here goes; men are socialized to respond favourably to women; we're taught to be gallant and chivalrous, and that we are supposed to be the aggressive ones where it comes to the mating game.

    Society (and perhaps also biology) dictates that males must prove our worthiness to a potential mate, in numerous ways (including attractiveness).

    Meanwhile, instead, females need only be attractive - a double edged sword, because if a man is ugly, he can still be rich; while if a woman is ugly, well, her options are more limited.

    Naturally, some girls cotton onto this when growing up, which is where you get the "won't you do my homework for me" routine. They're the ones who grow up to do well in sales and in garnering tips.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Skuxx


    The amount of times I've been stopped in the street by an attracive female chugger and ended up signing up for what ever she was sellin is incredible!! I just cant say no to them!! Its not like I think they are going to roide me if I sign up, I don't know what it is, but they always catch me!

    The fellas get a swift "fcuk off mate"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,904 ✭✭✭iptba


    FWIW, I remember it being said that if you're an attractive young woman, you're somewhat like an attractive male celebrity in terms of the effect you have on those around you, when you walk in to a room, in the dating scene, etc.

    I have wondered could/should this effect be measured in some way when people say women have less power than men because there are fewer of them in the Oireachtas or whatever. Indeed, if one has such power, one might be less inclined to put oneself out working to get other sources of power, perhaps.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    To be honest, I was actually doing recruiting for the judo club in Magee College during Freshers Week at the Fresher Fayre. I was a second year. And once or twice I was asked for private lesson. Though out of all the girls that chatted to me about the judo, none actually joined.
    So while it seemed like I was doing a good job of getting people, in the end I failed. Maybe I'll just fool myself into thinking they were just using the judo as an excuse to try and chat me up. Of course I was so young and innocent back then. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭Piliger


    "Women being used to sell products" ?

    You have to be kidding. It is the men who are being used. We are such suckers for a pretty girl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    All they do is bat their eyelids and some poor sod
    will part with his hard earned cash.

    Who's really being used?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Stroll down Shop St or Cruises St or some city around Ireland and you may find a pretty girl catch your eye and approach you

    Well how are you?
    Sees your shopping bag, oh did you get a new shirt, heading out tonight, any plans?

    And you wrack your brains wondering do you know this girl but hey, do you have a chance?

    Pulls out her ID, fooking Hanley Centre looking to sell scratchcards

    I can spot the chuggers a mile off with their vests, Hanley Centre used girls to approach people on their own

    And it works!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Stroll down Shop St or Cruisea St or some city around Ireland and you may find a pretty girl catch your eye and approach you

    Well how are you?
    Sees your shopping bag, oh did you get a new shirt, heading out tonight, any plans?

    And you wrack your brains wondering do you know this girl but hey, do you have a chance?

    Pulls out her ID, fooking Hanley Centre looking to sell scratchcards

    I can spot the chuggers a mile off with their vests, Hanley Centre used girls to approach people on their own

    And it works!

    I'd look them right in the eye and say no thanks. That or ask them if they've welcomed the love of Jesus into their hearts..

    I'm out of work until I get over my injures and don't have much spare cash. It's a sh*tty technique designed to get results in an underhanded manner. Don't fall for it, guys. Only give if you support the cause...


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭Diapason


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    I can spot the chuggers a mile off with their vests, Hanley Centre used girls to approach people on their own

    And it works!

    Luckily I'm fat and ugly, so if a pretty girl approaches me in the street she is, without a shadow of a doubt, looking for money.

    I also have no qualms about saying no to anyone for anything, no matter how good looking or charming they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Diapason wrote: »
    Luckily I'm fat and ugly, so if a pretty girl approaches me in the street she is, without a shadow of a doubt, looking for money.

    I also have no qualms about saying no to anyone for anything, no matter how good looking or charming they are.

    +1

    I agree, if I don't want to buy something it doesn't matter how pretty the woman selling whatever product it is, I won't be buying it.


Advertisement