Repeating Internally vs Externally

numbers man

What is the difference between these two? As far as I know the fee is €1,600 for both, but if I repeat internally do I have to pay reg + tuition aswell?(Was on grant this year so paid only student levy of €224). Have contacted both Fees office and College of Science, neither much help.

maki

Repeating internally means you'll need to pay full fees. You'd be looking at around €7500 in total.
Externally I think you pay everything except tuition. I did it a few years ago and it was about €1500.

I needed to get a letter from them last year stating that one of my years was an external repeat year, but they made it difficult by saying that external repeats don't exist anymore (although they obviously did). What that means for you I'm not sure.

Student Services or the Exams Office would probably be your best bet, both in Áras Uí Chathail.

Ficheall

maki wrote: »

(although they obviously did)

I don't think so. I'm fairly sure they did away with external repeats altogether a couple of years ago and reduced the cost of repeating internally a little... or something like that...

IsThisIt???

numbers man wrote: »

What is the difference between these two? As far as I know the fee is €1,600 for both, but if I repeat internally do I have to pay reg + tuition aswell?(Was on grant this year so paid only student levy of €224). Have contacted both Fees office and College of Science, neither much help.

I think you only pay the 1600e, no reg fee or that but I could be wrong. I repeated and we payed something like 2300 but then got a refund on it.

maki wrote: »

Repeating internally means you'll need to pay full fees. You'd be looking at around €7500 in total.
Externally I think you pay everything except tuition. I did it a few years ago and it was about €1500.
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You wouldn't be paying anything near 7500 unless you are repeating a different course. If you are repeating a year it's about 1600e - 1800e, not sure of the exact amount

PomBear

Repeating internally/externally was done away with a few years back, too many people paying for repeating externally and just going to lectures as normal.

You can repeat your year now at €1600 as a regular internal student

skinny90

maki wrote: »

Repeating internally means you'll need to pay full fees. You'd be looking at around €7500 in total.
Externally I think you pay everything except tuition. I did it a few years ago and it was about €1500.

I needed to get a letter from them last year stating that one of my years was an external repeat year, but they made it difficult by saying that external repeats don't exist anymore (although they obviously did). What that means for you I'm not sure.

Student Services or the Exams Office would probably be your best bet, both in Áras Uí Chathail.

had to do this two years ago...repeating externally put simply means that you come back and do your exam at christmas/summer.You dont attend lectures,do assignments etc,I'm nearly sure your email account and blackboard accounts wont be active.
Internally means your expected to attend college like you would if it were a normal year,email and bb are active and you have an advantage as you can gain marks from assignments,continuous assesment

BhoscaCapall

What happens if you just fail one exam out of all of everything? Do you have to repeat the whole module again including any coursework/xmas exams you already passed, or just come back in May for one exam?

It seems a bit silly that you're made sit on your hole look for a job for a year just to come back for 2 hours, when in reality you could have just sat the exam in a week's time and passed it. Wouldn't it be better if you'd only failed one exam, to just go into the next year and sit it again at Christmas or something? Pretty sure that's how they roll in the UK.

Obviously failing any exams isn't meant to happen so I hardly expect the college to be drawing up stellar contingency plans...

Ficheall

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

It seems a bit silly that you're made sit on your hole look for a job for a year just to come back for 2 hours, when in reality you could have just sat the exam in a week's time and passed it.

Here's a crazy idea - pass the exam the first time around.

I know there are some cases with very extenuating circumstances, but these should be worked around on a case by case basis, rather than letting all the people who are too lazy to do the study the first time around, do a second year's worth of not doing any work before they have to face any consequences.

They have a "carrying over exams" option in Trinity, where you can fail, say, five of your exams, and carry them over to the following year, only to, more than likely, fail them all again - along with with a whole rake of new subjects which your average slacker obviously isn't going to be able to manage on top of everything else...

IsThisIt???

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

What happens if you just fail one exam out of all of everything? Do you have to repeat the whole module again including any coursework/xmas exams you already passed, or just come back in May for one exam?

Usually you will just have to repeat the failed component.

Does anyone know when the results are out actually?? And what's the deal with getting them early, I've heard of some people doing so. Do you email the individual lecturer or the college department. Would like to know before the start of September for finding accommodation

BhoscaCapall

Heh I forgot repeat results don't come out until weeks into the year. If you sit it out until results and find you passed, you're already a few weeks behind with missed lectures. If you attend these lectures and find you failed, you're sickened at the waste of time but also the incredible guilt of basically stealing these lectures from NUIG.

IsThisIt???

You'd think they'd make sure to get the results out before college started, even if it was just the friday before. Doesn't make sense releasing them when we're already back, most people would want to have sorted accommodation.

NeuroCat

Ficheall wrote: »

Here's a crazy idea - pass the exam the first time around.

I know there are some cases with very extenuating circumstances, but these should be worked around on a case by case basis, rather than letting all the people who are too lazy to do the study the first time around, do a second year's worth of not doing any work before they have to face any consequences.

They have a "carrying over exams" option in Trinity, where you can fail, say, five of your exams, and carry them over to the following year, only to, more than likely, fail them all again - along with with a whole rake of new subjects which your average slacker obviously isn't going to be able to manage on top of everything else...

Actually in Trinity they don't let you carry on your modules to the next year. Thats UCD and the other Dublin colleges you must be thinking of. There are the regular Summer exams, and free repeats in August/September. If you fail one module out of 12 (for example), you repeat the year, no exceptions. There are no repeat exams in 3rd year or 4th year and an average below 45% is considered a fail, below 35% results in expulsion from the course and ineligibility to repeat the year.

Raging_Ninja

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Heh I forgot repeat results don't come out until weeks into the year. If you sit it out until results and find you passed, you're already a few weeks behind with missed lectures. If you attend these lectures and find you failed, you're sickened at the waste of time but also the incredible guilt of basically stealing these lectures from NUIG.

Depending on the faculty, you can get results from the faculty head after the board meeting has been held in which the results are finalised. The board meeting for repeat exams happens (or at least used to happen) in the week before the new semester begins.