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PWI Top 500 - 2012

  • 13-08-2012 3:14pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭


    The results should be out soon as last year they were out in July, so who's making your top 5 (or top 10 if you prefer) of the last 12 months?

    I'm going for -

    1. CM Punk - Just had an incredible last 12 months starting from the Summer of Punk. The feud with Triple H and Nash and the whole text messaging thing was in danger of being detrimental to him, but thinking about the quality matches he had with Jericho and Bryan was enough to put that out of memory. Still wish he did have a match with Nash though.

    2. Austin Aries - Come on leaps and bounds since he re-signed last year, and has had a even mix of great matches in the X-division and Heavyweight division. Promo's were better as a heel, but I always prefer to see wrestlers as a babyface when they win the heavyweight title for the first time, so his face turn came at the right time.

    3. John Cena - Despite not always wanting to see him main event every PPV, no doubting his highly entertaining matches, especially against Lesnar and The Rock which I have re-watched several times each. Thought he should have beaten Rock and lost to Lesnar, not other way around, but he's still a top guy.

    4. Bobby Roode - Finally realised as one of the top guys in the industry today. Although he didn't really have a stand-out feud and it seemed like every month he was going through a different guy which was an interesting concept and remained fresh throughout each short feud. He actually looks like a star this year with the promo skills to match, and although it seemed like Beer Money would both go on to be equal main eventers as solo wrestlers, Roode has excelled much quicker than Storm.

    5. Dolph Ziggler - Here's one guy who is surely going to win the big one before the end of the year, and a perfect example of charisma, in-ring talent, and have a manager with chemistry. The tag-team with Swagger was in danger of slowing his breaks, but the 2 or 3 month run he had when he wrestled twice on PPV's showed what a valuable asset he has become.

    6. Kurt Angle
    7. Daniel Bryan
    8. Big Show
    9. AJ Styles
    10. Sheamus


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,451 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I agree Punk should be No. 1

    Bully Ray should also be in the top 10


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I agree Punk should be No. 1

    Bully Ray should also be in the top 10

    Joseph Park should be in the top 3.
    What the criteria again?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    No Elgin or Richards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    No Elgin or Richards?

    Unfortunately I don't watch ROH or Japanese promotions. That is just my personal top 10, it's not a prediction or anything. I've heard rave reviews about Elgin and Richards though. And since 1995 there has been at least one Japanese in the top 10, so likely will be this year too.

    Miz was number 1 last year, wonder how far down the list he has fallen :eek:


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Frankly I didn't think Miz should have been #1 last year, but it will be interesting to see just how far down he's gone.

    I'd love to see Bryan get at least a top 5 spot, and Sheamus a top 10.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,085 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Miz absolutely deserved top spot last year. He was brilliant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭paddyismaddy


    GTR63 wrote: »
    Joseph Park should be in the top 3.
    What the criteria again?

    is it based on title reigns, their length?

    if so punk and roode would be 1 and 2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    I'd have Bully Ray and before Ziggler and Angle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭Garseys


    The No.1 spot is being revealed on The Score's Aftermath podcast on Monday.

    My bet is Punk too for No.1 spot, he's had a phenomenal year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Tanahashi or maybe Okada will be up there, possibly both. Outside chance for Naito. Roode, Aries, Punk, Cena and Sheamus will be in there too. Elgin definitely, Steen wont be too far off either.

    In reality, it means absolutely nothing. I wonder if any of the wrestlers actually care?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    I'd be very surprised if Aries doesnt get #1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    I'd have Aries as no.1, personally. Punk has slipped well out of the summer of punk height.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    Punk got it

    PWI
    6 hours ago via Twitter
    Well, @CMPunk, here's your vindication. You are officially the #1 wrestler in the 2012 #PWI500. #BestInTheWorld #PWI #km


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭glenjamin


    Miz absolutely deserved top spot last year. He was brilliant.

    Don't be trolling now ;)



    Only messing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    Punk got it

    And deservedly so.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Let's analyse this:


    1.CM Punk
    2.Bobby Roode
    3.John Cena
    4.Daniel Bryan
    5.Sheamus
    6.Jun Akiyama
    7.Davey Richards
    8.Kurt Angle
    9.Mark Henry
    10.Alberto del Rio
    11.Hiroyoshi Tenzan
    12.James Storm
    13.Austin Aries
    14.Randy Orton
    15.Christian
    16.Dolph Ziggler
    17.The Big Show
    18.Eddie Edwards
    19.L.A. Park
    20.Kevin Steen
    21.Jeff Hardy
    22.Kane
    23.Cody Rhodes
    24.Takashi Sugiura
    25.D-Von
    26.Dr. Wagner Jr.
    27.Mr. Anderson
    28.AJ Styles
    29.Chris Jericho
    30.Bully Ray
    31.Kofi Kingston
    32.Roderick Strong
    33.Jack Swagger
    34.El Terrible
    35.Sting
    36.R-Truth
    37.Rob Van Dam
    38.Go Shiozaki
    39.Jay Lethal
    40.Kazchika Okada
    41.Crimson
    42.Shelton Benjamin
    43.Magnus
    44.Colt Cabana
    45.Tensai
    46.Seth Rollins
    47.Shinsuke Nakamura
    48.Chris Daniels
    49.The Miz
    50.Matt Morgan
    51.Samoa Joe
    52.Sami Callihan
    53.Charlie Haas
    54.Michael Elgin
    55.Gunner
    56.Wade Barrett
    57.Jeff Jarrett
    58.Kazarian
    59.Johnny Gargano
    60.Santino Marella
    61.Takeshi Morishima
    62.Adam Pearce
    63.Jay Briscoe
    64.Karl Anderson
    65.Mark Briscoe
    66.Robbie E
    67.El Mesias
    68.Prince Devitt
    69.Averno
    70.Zack Ryder
    71.Tommaso Ciampa
    72.Primo
    73.Satoshi Kojima
    74.Brodus Clay
    75.Adam Cole
    76.Epico
    77.Leo Kruger
    78.Mike Bennett
    79.Yamato
    80.Negro Casas
    81.La Mascara
    82.El Generico
    83.David Otunga
    84.Kenny King
    85.Eric Young
    86.Hernandez
    87.Zema Ion
    88.Pac
    89.Damien Sandow
    90.Jey Uso
    91.Jimmy Uso
    92.Hunico
    93.Harry Smith
    94.Tetsuya Naito
    95.Carlito
    96.Evan Bourne
    97.Rhett Titus
    98.Richie Steamboat
    99.Justin Gabriel
    100.Sin Cara
    101.Kyle O'Reilly
    102.Great Khali
    103.Blue Panther
    104.The Almighty Sheik
    105.Kid Kash
    106.Luke Harper
    107.Tyson Kidd
    108.Heath Slater
    109.Alex Shelley
    110.Antonio Cesaro
    111.Ryback
    112.Suwama
    113.Finlay
    114.Abyss
    115.Masato Yoshino
    116.Jerry Lynn
    117.Togi Makabe
    118.Xavier Woods
    119.Ultimo Dragon
    120.La Sombra
    121.Shingo
    122.Masaaki Mochizuki
    123.Akira Tozawa
    124.Kassius Ohno
    125.Yoshi Tatsu
    126.Chuck Taylor
    127.Hirooki Goto
    128.Rhino
    129.Low-Ki
    130.D'Angelo Dinero
    131.Naomichi Marufuji
    132.Genki Horiguchi
    133.Volador Jr.
    134.Mike Dalton
    135.Mason Ryan
    136.Jay Spadley
    137.Mahabali Veera
    138.Jimmy Susumu
    139.Darrick Bateman
    140.TJ Perkins
    141.Bo Dallas
    142.Yuji Nagata
    143.RJ Brewer
    144.Rush
    145.Douglas Williams
    146.Drake Younger
    147.A.R. Fox
    148.BXB Hulk
    149.Jushin Liger
    150.Ezekiel Jackson
    151.Cima
    152.Ryusuke Taguchi
    153.El Zorro
    154.Uhaa Nation
    155.Rey Escorpion
    156.Darren Young
    157.Blue Demon Jr.
    158.Shannon Moore
    159.Caprice Coleman
    160.Curt Hawkins
    161.Mike Mondo
    162.El Hijo Del Santo
    163.Cedric Alexander
    164.Minoru Suzuki
    165.Jinder Mahal
    166.Ultimo Guerrero
    167.Bray Wyatt
    168.Titus O'Neil
    169.Ryo Santo
    170.Alex Riley
    171.Mohammad Yone
    172.Matt Jackson
    173.Kenta
    174.Joe E. Legend
    175.Camacho
    176.Hector Garza
    177.Chavo Guerrero
    178.Nick Jackson
    179.Shawn Spears
    180.Mark Haskins
    181.Yoshinobu Kanemaru
    182.Silver Kain
    183.Kota Ibushi
    184.Kenny Omega
    185.Ted DiBiase Jr.
    186.El Hijo Perro Aguayo
    187.Chance Prophet
    188.Matt Cross
    189.Joe Doering
    190.Drew McIntyre
    191.Jake Carter
    192.Robert Anthony
    193.Connor O'Brian
    194.Tyson Dux
    195.Jack Evans
    196.Michael McGillicutty
    197.Gamma
    198.Rob Terry
    199.Corey Graves
    200.Eddie Kingston
    201.Naruki Doi
    202.Masato Tananka
    203.Tyler Reks
    204.??? (Seriously, there's nobody here...)
    205.Chris Masters
    206.Briley Pierce
    207.JTG
    208.N8 Mattson
    209.Derek Wylde
    210.Johnny Curtis
    211.Brian Kendrick
    212.Cibernetico
    213.Brad Maddox
    214.Delirious
    215.Shawn Daivari
    216.Dragon Rojo Jr.
    217.Mike Quackenbush
    218.Scott Steiner
    219.Apollyon
    220.Trent Barreta
    221.Josh Alexander
    222.Darin Corbin
    223.Papdon
    224.Chris Angel
    225.Akitoshi Saito
    226.Richochet
    227.Shaun Tempers
    228.Psicosis II
    229.El Texano Jr.
    230.Dragon Kid
    231.Chessman
    232.Hartley Jackson
    233.Jado
    234.Devon Moore
    235.Petey Williams
    236.Rocky Romero
    237.Paul London
    238.Mascara Dorada
    239.Hallowicked
    240.Steve Corino
    241.Virus
    242.Sonjay Dutt
    243.Bestia 666
    244.Bray Wyatt
    245.Extreme Tiger
    246.Ricky Cruz
    247.Takao Omori
    248.Kaz Hayashi
    249.Gedo
    250.BJ Whitmer
    251.Manabu Soya
    252.Bryon Saxton
    253.Dean Ambrose
    254.Masada
    255.Famous B
    256.Kahagas
    257.Arik Cannon
    258.Ryan Eagles
    259.Jake Manning
    260.Alex Silva
    261.Daisuke Sekimoto
    262.MVP
    263.Kai
    264.Big E Langston
    265.Joey Ryan
    266.Lance Archer
    267.LA Parka Jr.
    268.Krimson
    269.Masahiro Chono
    270.Homicide
    271.Akebono
    272.Jimmy Rave
    273.Gilbert
    274.Rey Bucaniero
    275.Rich Swann
    276.Shane Haste
    277.Jigsaw
    278.Dr. Nicholas Dinsmore
    279.John Silver
    280.Harlem Bravado
    281.Silas Young
    282.Facade
    283.Silver King
    284.Lance Bravado
    285.Matt Riviera
    286.John McChesney
    287.Gran Akuma
    288.Gurv Sihra
    289.Ruckus
    290.Ray Gonzalez
    291.Anthony Nese
    292.Harv Sihra
    293.Robby Heart
    294.Kuimuna
    295.Ace Hawkins
    296.Rick Victor
    297.Icarus
    298.Tommy Dreamer
    299.Pepper Parks
    300.Scotty Vortekz
    301.Luke Gallows
    302.Ares
    303.Damien Wayne
    304.Sabu
    305.Craig Classic
    306.Jesse Neal
    307.Vance Nevada
    308.Kenneth Cameron
    309.Tiberious King
    310.Aden Chambers
    311.Brandon Espinosa
    312.Joh Davis
    313.Marco Corleone
    314.Necro Butcher
    315.BLK Jeez
    316.Danny Havoc
    317.Kory Chavis
    318.Oliver John
    319.Jason Jordan
    320.Caleb Konley
    321.Mikael Judas
    322.Roscoe Jackson
    323.Alexander Rusev
    324.Pinkie Sanchez
    325.Ray Alexander
    326.CJ Parker
    327.Joey Rico Dynamite
    328.Peter Avalon
    329.Jake O'Reilly
    330.Grizzly Redwood
    331.Scott Reed
    332.Willie Mack
    333.Mike Posey
    334.Shaun Ricker
    335.Mike Sydal
    336.Lince Dorado
    337.Devon Storm
    338.Asylum
    339.Josh Daniels
    340.Tim Storm
    341.Stryknyn
    342.Derek Sanders
    343.Se7en
    344.Kenso
    345.Drew Gulak
    346.Electroshock
    347.Greg Excellent
    348.Chris Wylde
    349.Dru Onyx
    350.Kyle Sebastian
    351.Leakee
    352.Luke Hawx
    353.Amazing Red
    354.Matt Burns
    355.Craven Knyte
    356.Percy Watson
    357.Andrew Alexander
    358.Ricky Reyes
    359.Brandon Gatson
    360.Andy Ridge
    361.Jake Christ
    362.Alex Koslov
    363.Tiger Mask IV
    364.Josef Von Schmidt
    365.Steve Boz
    366.Scotty O'Shea
    367.DJ Hyde
    368.RJ City
    369.Bobby Fish
    370.Robbie Mcallister
    371.Jimmy Jacobs
    372.Mustafa Aziz Daniels
    373.Dave Crist
    374.Notorious T.I.D.
    375.Mike Hughes
    376.John E. Stone
    377.Chip Day
    378.Chris Silvio
    379.Ashley Sixx
    380.Kekoa The Flyin' Hawaiian
    381.Super Dragon
    382.Slyk Wagner Brown
    383.Tank
    384.Vaquero Fantasma
    385.Dasher Hatfield
    386.Dash Maverick
    387.Aaron Draven
    388.Micah Taylor
    389.Cobian
    390.Jimmy Cicero
    391.Bobby Moore
    392.James Bronson
    393.Timothy Thatcher
    394.Ahtu
    395.Azrieal
    396.Aiden Veil
    397.Seth Delay
    398.Bloody Harker Dirge
    399.Oliver Cain
    400.Breaker Morant
    401.Garett Bischoff
    402.Dandido Jr.
    403.Sexxxy Eddie
    404.Biggie Biggs
    405.John Kermon
    406.Sinn Bodhi
    407.Crazzy Steve
    408.Patrick Bentley
    409.Matt Saigon
    410.Scorpio Sky
    411.Bill Collier
    412.Tyler Hilton
    413.Anthony Darko
    414.Damian Dragon
    415.Mike Rollins
    416.Gregory Iron
    417.Kyle Matthews
    418.Bobby Shields
    419.John Skyler
    420.Primo Scordino
    421.Gee Gee
    422.Jayson Wayne
    423.Napalm Bomb
    424.Steven Walters
    425.Hellcat
    426.Stupefied
    427.Ethan HD
    428.Dave Osborne
    429.Kevin Douglas
    430.Sara Del Rey
    431.Corey Hollis
    432.Rob Sweet
    433.Christian York
    434.Greg Anthony
    435.Sam Shields
    436.Player Uno
    437.Chris Rockwell
    438.Dany Only
    439.Paredyse
    440.Nitro
    441.Samuray Del Sol
    442.Jessie Godderz
    443.Gideon Malice
    444.Vordell Walker
    445.AJ Kirsch
    446.Nick Fury
    447.Black Ice
    448.Joe Gacy
    449.Luke Robinson
    450.Brandon Thurston
    451.Rudy Switchblade
    452.American Kickboxer II
    453.Billy Gibbs
    454.Jamin Olivencia
    455.Tommy Mack
    456.The Bodysnatcher
    457.Garrett Dylan
    458.Jason Cypress
    459.Ophidian
    460.Steve Stasiak
    461.Cueball Carmichael
    462.Franky the Mobster
    463.Nui Tofiga
    464.Rob Fury
    465.Cheech Hernandez
    466.Gabe Saint
    467.Johnny Spade
    468.Larry Dallas
    469.Danny Daniels
    470.Marc Mandrake
    471.Mohamad Ali Vaez
    472.Dave Dutra
    473.Chris Cooper
    474.Kid America
    475.Tommy Reznik
    476.Butch Long
    477.Joey Knight
    478.Al Farat
    479.Tyler Priegel
    480.Mr. Ooh La La
    481.Elia Markopoulos
    482.Barry Hardy
    483.Brandon Bishop
    484.Lumberjack Leroux
    485.The Big O
    486.Shooter Storm
    487.Jimi The Hippie
    488.Corey Blaze
    489.Chrisifix
    490.LJ Cruz
    491.Anton Levigh
    492.Perry Von Viscious
    493.The Maestro
    494.Vince Beach
    495.Silent Warrior
    496.Johnny Adams
    497.Lance Anoa'i
    498.Nick Vickers
    499.Shane Hollister
    500.Brian Hardy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    30th!!! Ah fúck off, Mr.Anderson one place above Styles and I see even Garrett Bischoff made the list


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    Am I missing something or is Tanahashi not on that list at all?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    I dont see him anywhere, but I got bored halfway through.

    No 204?

    Also, 167 and 244 :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭Hashtag_HEEL


    Miz from No.1 To 49.! Delighted Cabana got 44.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Well I guess Miz did miss a lot of the year.

    I'm delighted Bryan and Sheamus both got top 5 spots :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Am I missing something or is Tanahashi not on that list at all?

    A friend of mine asked. As we thought Tenzan was a Tanahashi typo:
    Tanahashi was IWGP champ early in the grading period but, according to our records, he barely competed in any matches.

    Which is ridiculously laughable.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    More:
    Not listing Tanahashi was a major blunder for which we apologize. He would have been top 15 for sure. I'll take the hit for this. Stu Saks.
    More errors: Tajiri was supposed to have been 244. We had a repeat of Bray Wyatt in that spot. Cody Deaner's 204 was omitted from the page.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Charisteas wrote: »
    And deservedly so.

    Maybe based on the length of his title reign but other than that I think it's a case of 'if you say something enough people will start to believe it'. Personally I don't even think he is the best wrestler in WWE, never mind the world.

    If the list was compiled based on the 3/4 weeks between his 'shoot' promo and his return with the title he would walk away with it but for me it has all been downhill since then, sure he had some great matches with Bryan but then again he was working with probably the best wrestler in WWE but there is also the stupid stuff especially like the whole Nash/HHH thing.

    If his year had followed on from how it started it could have been a phenomenal year, he was never going to be the agent of change that he claimed he would be but he could have provided some different content for WWE over the last year, instead he happily became everything he complained about . I read a piece of an interview with him a few weeks ago where he said he was 'less pissed off than he was last year'....no sh*t Sherlock, because you have the money and fame you craved but no doubt somebody is now pissed off at you, the way you were pissed off at Cena and HHH....personally I would love for that person to be given to be given free reign to put a few home truths to Punk but I doubt he would be the kind to embrace being on the recieving end of such a promo.


    Wow....that actually turned into a rant.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    Joseph Park not being on the list is a tragic miscarriage of justice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    Joseph Park esquire not being on the list is a tragic miscarriage of justice.

    Just gave him his proper title. His promo's are better than everyone else on the list except maybe Bully Ray.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    Keiji Mutoh isn't on the list which means that Jushin Liger is the only wrestler to appear every year since they started in 1991.

    4 out of the top 6 in that aforementioned first list from 1991 have wrestled for TNA in the last 12 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    Bear in mind that (from Wikipedia PWI page)

    "The magazine soon became known for not breaking kayfabe in its articles as it traditionally treated all "angles", or storylines, as real".

    So it makes sense the guy who holds the most important title for such a long period would win it. Technical Wrestling ability or the guy's character has nothing to do with it. It's a good guide to how well someone has been pushed and how long that push has been sustained, so basically a good guide to the popularity of each wrestler. There is no doubt that Punk is the most popular wrestler at the moment!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    Man, I read PWI recently, for the first time in years and I didn't remember it being so weird! I am pretty sure my age was in single digits when I last got it, so I'm glad that that's what it was. The magazine is kayfabe, ha ha. On another note.....Jimmy Cicero is still around?!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    WELL LADS
    In the case of Wyatt, his second listing in the "500" was intended for Yoshihiro Tajiri, so that's an easy fix. In the case of Silver Kain, we did not have a wrestler selected for the second spot, so to scratch number 283 off the list means we'd have only 499 wrestlers in the ranking.

    That opens a spot for the deserving Tanahashi. Since it was our intention all along to rank him in the number-11 position, that is precisely what we are going to do. Frankly, it was never our intention to rank Hiroyoshi Tenzan in that number-11 spot, but that's where he ended up in the published editions. He was supposed to be number 81.
    :rolleyes:

    http://prowrestlingillustrated.blogspot.ie/2012/08/pwi-500-errors-resolution.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    Did they not proof read their own list?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    This is just a disaster.


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