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Which Big Tractor?

  • 12-08-2012 8:06pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭


    Lads i have severlely hilly land and im thinking of buying a tractor for upto 15k. Its for slurry and fertilliser. My 110 90 can only pull a 1300 gallon tank and id prefer to get a bigger tank as i have a lot of slurry. Anyways i was thinking of a 160-90 180-90 not bad on fuel and cheap parts. Their hard got tho! Any other recomendations? sorry forgot to mention again needs to be good on the hills-good traction!


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Are you selling the 110-90?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Are you selling the 110-90?
    was woundering the same
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    leg wax wrote: »
    was woundering the same
    :D
    no i wont, she has a tiny cab damage-brother rolled her before, great tractor tho!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    The relations have a 180 hp Same and they are on wet and very hilly land . He has two 1100 galllon tanks . It would be alright to have a big enough tractor to pull a bigger tank but would a bigger tank be steady enough on the side of a hill ? I dont think he has any plans for bigger tanks .

    I saw an article a few years ago about a hill farmer in england somewhere that made up a tank with a low centre of gravity and floatation tyres .I thought it was a great way of safely getting slurry out on hills .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    moy83 wrote: »
    The relations have a 180 hp Same and they are on wet and very hilly land . He has two 1100 galllon tanks . It would be alright to have a big enough tractor to pull a bigger tank but would a bigger tank be steady enough on the side of a hill ? I dont think he has any plans for bigger tanks .

    I saw an article a few years ago about a hill farmer in england somewhere that made up a tank with a low centre of gravity and floatation tyres .I thought it was a great way of safely getting slurry out on hills .
    Ya there is ones at the moment with the axle going through the tank, way safer spreading across the hill. what are the same like?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Ya there is ones at the moment with the axle going through the tank, way safer spreading across the hill. what are the same like?
    It gave him a few problems but nothing too serious to fix , but he is happy with it pulling up hills and travelling over wet spots . I dont know the size of the tyres but they are seriously wide and they seem to get away without doing damage to the ground . He has a bit of ground thats too soft for the harvester to cut silage off so he bales it instead , this year he had the wheels from the slurry tank on the baler to help keep him afloat :D
    The slurry tank i saw was in a V shape and it also helped to stop the slurry in the tank from sloshing around and getting top heavy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    moy83 wrote: »
    The relations have a 180 hp Same and they are on wet and very hilly land . He has two 1100 galllon tanks . It would be alright to have a big enough tractor to pull a bigger tank but would a bigger tank be steady enough on the side of a hill ? I dont think he has any plans for bigger tanks .

    I saw an article a few years ago about a hill farmer in england somewhere that made up a tank with a low centre of gravity and floatation tyres .I thought it was a great way of safely getting slurry out on hills .
    Get a contractor to pipe it ,its where you want it when you want . It works will for me and no money tied up in plant .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    How far away from the shed will he pipe it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    moy83 wrote: »
    How far away from the shed will he pipe it ?
    500 metres on mine but that might not be the limit or will haul with a 3500 gallon tanker or arctic to any outfarm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    how much would a contractor charge to pipe it. Its been pumped up from the bottom of a large hill, would it have the power?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    how much would a contractor charge to pipe it. Its been pumped up from the bottom of a large hill, would it have the power?
    My lad pumped 100000 gal last month in in 8 hours at 120 per hour . He is pumping with a fendt 939 so he reckons if the slurry is thin enough it will pump anywhere .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Lads i have severlely hilly land and im thinking of buying a tractor for upto 15k. Its for slurry and fertilliser. My 110 90 can only pull a 1300 gallon tank and id prefer to get a bigger tank as i have a lot of slurry. Anyways i was thinking of a 160-90 180-90 not bad on fuel and cheap parts. Their hard got tho! Any other recomendations? sorry forgot to mention again needs to be good on the hills-good traction!
    we have plenty of hills here, have a tm125 new holland... has a 2600 gallon slurry tanker on it... also have a keenan 170 feeder on it all winter, no bother on it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭iverjohnston


    Hi Kev, Fiat 160/90 or 180/90 are a lot heavier than a 110/90. If your on hilly ground and do you need this extra weight? As another poster noted, Same are very good on hills, cheap power and light for their power. They have true 4 wheel braking, not relying on being in 4wd for front brakes. Local New Holland dealer had a 160/90 in for a few jobs, and they are VERY strongly built, but to be honest the dealer did remark that they are not a tractor for land in this area (cavan, also hilly), but ideal for pulling dumpers or low loaders. Mack ion Cavan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭dar31


    we pumped watery slurry 800m with a climb of 120m with no problems
    he used a trailing shoe in stead of the splash plate.
    he has 1.4 km of pipe i think.
    haven't paid him yet so don't know the cost yet.

    why go buying a bigger tractor, just so you can go buy a bigger tanker, get the contractor in to do it.
    keep your current set up to do a few paddocks and the small bits when needed
    most contractors will come in for half days, or even a few load as he is passing, once you keep them informed.
    let them know how much you have for the year, etc end jan pipe slurry, first/second cut splash plate, then one day a week/forthnight/month.
    no point ringing a lad to come spread in the morning as ou wont get him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Does anyone know a contractor who pipes it in North Tipp?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Dont be daft


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Does anyone know a contractor who pipes it in North Tipp?

    There's a lad in Newtown doin it with an old John Deere and some lad with a New Holland doin it aswell (might have been John Kennedy, not sure)

    Think Joe Foggarty had the system years ago but dunno if he still has it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭tim04750


    New Holland 8360 range command 97-99, 130 hp, same as a tm tidy bit of kit if you can find a clean one with genuine hours .
    Had a fiat 1180 with a 130 engine in it good to pull but slow, heavy, real bad steering lock, and a right cnut of a gearbox ,not troublesome but a bitch to get gears going down the box


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭GERMAN ROCKS


    tim04750 wrote: »
    New Holland 8360 range command 97-99, 130 hp, same as a tm tidy bit of kit if you can find a clean one with genuine hours .
    Had a fiat 1180 with a 130 engine in it good to pull but slow, heavy, real bad steering lock, and a right cnut of a gearbox ,not troublesome but a bitch to get gears going down the box

    was that a column shift box. to this day they are one of my favourite gearboxs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭tim04750


    Yes column shift , good auld yolk at the time but seriously underpowered with standard engine , had her under a jf 900 ,got the brainwave of putting a turbo on it, great job for an hour and a half then she blew the rings into the sump.


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