Obama preparing for Oklahoma City Type False Flag bomb prior to November Election?

Run_to_da_hills

This prospect was mentioned on a thread several months back about the possibility of a false flag attack in the run up to the November elections.

As what was mentioned before nothing would surprise me about current US dirty tricks politics since the United States of America has now earned the deserved title as the false flag capital of the world.

We have with anything from underwear bombers to staged shoot outs using drugged up patsys that cannot even be photographed in court or have information passed on to media for fear of exposing the case.. .

Obama is currently itching himself to pass NDAA AKA Martial Law. He is also just one stroke of the pen away from indefinite internment without trial on US citizens and complete control over the internet. A major amateurish style Reichstag attack on a prominent landmark would be the perfect excuse to draft it all the above to suit his agenda.



"Recently the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) placed a solicitation by way of the Transportation Safety Administration (TSA) for 700 pounds of High Density Ammonium Nitrate and 700 pounds of A-5 Flake RDX. With the delivery date scheduled for August 31, 2012, could DHS be planning a false flag attack involving a planted home-made bomb?"

When creating a “makeshift terrorist bomb” ammonium nitrate is an integral ingredient. The DHS was given oversight of procurement of ammonium nitrate after Congress requested they “regulate the sale and transfer of ammonium nitrate by an ammonium nitrate facility…to prevent the misappropriation or use of ammonium nitrate in an act of terrorism.

The Pentagon has come before Congress decrying that domestic terrorist attacks may increase with the use of improvised explosive devices (IEDs) in the US. They are asking Congress to lay aside Posse Comitatus (PCA) in an effort to increase their use of military on the streets of America.

Citing James Holmes’ apartment and use of home-made bombs, Army Lt. Gen. Michael Barbero told Congress that the threat “from both homegrown terrorists and global threat networks is real and presents a significant security challenge for the United States and our international partners.”

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/08/11/dhs-preparing-oklahoma-city-type-false-flag-before-november-elections/

Owryan

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

"Recently the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) placed a solicitation by way of the Transportation Safety Administration (TSA) for 700 pounds of High Density Ammonium Nitrate and 700 pounds of A-5 Flake RDX. With the delivery date scheduled for August 31, 2012, could DHS be planning a false flag attack involving a planted home-made bomb?"

Ok, let me think, the DHS are going to carry out a "false flag attack" using explosives they have publicly requested ??

Am i alone in seeing the possible flaw in this plan ??

As for the "August 31, 2012" deadline alluded to by you, if nothing happens, WILL you come on here and admit you were wrong ??

Run_to_da_hills

Owryan wrote: »

Ok, let me think, the DHS are going to carry out a "false flag attack" using explosives they have publicly requested ??

Am i alone in seeing the possible flaw in this plan ??

There was also a hell of a lot of flaws in the 9/11 plan.

Owryan wrote: »

As for the "August 31, 2012" deadline alluded to by you, if nothing happens, WILL you come on here and admit you were wrong ??

Where dose it mention anything about a deadline for an attack?

Brown Bomber

Owryan wrote: »

Ok, let me think, the DHS are going to carry out a "false flag attack" using explosives they have publicly requested ??

Am i alone in seeing the possible flaw in this plan ??

As for the "August 31, 2012" deadline alluded to by you, if nothing happens, WILL you come on here and admit you were wrong ??

The OP was a question not a prediction you'll find if you read it again.

And Runtodahills:

Do you even think it's necessary to carry out large scale false-flag terrorist attacks anymore? I mean Obama has already given himself the power to kill US citizens on his command - a power he wasted no time in using. I can't think of anything more extreme than a president giving himself the power of life and death over a nations citizens without even a trial, yet he didn't need to pull off any black ops to make state murder legal.

hooradiation

Brown Bomber wrote: »

The OP was a question not a prediction you'll find if you read it again.

Technically, It a prediction with tacit support from RTDH - he does call the US both the "False flag capital of the world" and insisting that both the wisconsin and aurora shootings were using 'patsys' as well as Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab.

So asking him what'll happen when an idea he appears to look on as being truthful fails to pan out, yet again, is not an unfair question, regardless of your protesting.

Brown Bomber wrote: »

And Runtodahills:

Do you even think it's necessary to carry out large scale false-flag terrorist attacks anymore? I mean Obama has already given himself the power to kill US citizens on his command - a power he wasted no time in using.
I can't think of anything more extreme than a president giving himself the power of life and death over a nations citizens without even a trial, yet he didn't need to pull off any black ops to make state murder legal.

Even if this assessment were legitimate, and I don't believe it is, it has precious little to with the original prediction that a so called "false flag" would be needed in order to secure Obamas re election.
Unless you're suggesting that Obama would simply murder people who don't vote for him...

That notion is the one that this idea falls down on, even if you accept every other outlandish idea in this prediction as true.
There is no need for any of this kind of clandestine shenanigans (not that any of the examples given are what RTDHs claims they are anyway) seeing as the GOP seem to be hellbent on letting Obama have a second term and reducing themselves to being cantankerous obstructionists for the next four years.

Owryan

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Where dose it mention anything about a deadline for an attack?

apologies on that one, the deadline prediction part anyway i misread the post . Just to clear things up, are you predicting a false flag attack in the U.S. before the elections or just floating the idea because there is a big difference between the two ?

But my original point is still valid, why would the DHS consider carrying out a false flag operation using explosives requested through public means ?

If as has been alleged they are behind numerous other events and have left evidence implicating them , then surely they would at least take better care this time ?

Run_to_da_hills

Owryan wrote: »

apologies on that one, the deadline prediction part anyway i misread the post . Just to clear things up, are you predicting a false flag attack in the U.S. before the elections or just floating the idea because there is a big difference between the two ?

Yes I would suggest the likely hood of a pre election false flag attack is very high at this stage. It would buy him time if a state of emergency was drafted in plus it could also give him the opportunity of gaining 'solution" votes should the election pick up after.

Owryan wrote: »

But my original point is still valid, why would the DHS consider carrying out a false flag operation using explosives requested through public means ?

If as has been alleged they are behind numerous other events and have left evidence implicating them , then surely they would at least take better care this time ?

According to this the DHS initially requested plastic explosives and then tries to hide the request

Read more: http://pprnnews.prepperpodcast.com/dhs-requests-plastic-explosives-hides-request/#ixzz23Fs5eWjH

Owryan

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Read more: http://pprnnews.prepperpodcast.com/dhs-requests-plastic-explosives-hides-request/#ixzz23Fs5eWjH

not the most unbiased source there

Jonny7

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Yes I would suggest the likely hood of a pre election false flag attack is very high at this stage. It would buy him time if a state of emergency was drafted in plus it could also give him the opportunity of gaining 'solution" votes should the election pick up after.

I would suggest the "likely hood" of you ever getting jury duty is close to nil.

weisses

Jonny7 wrote: »

I would suggest the "likely hood" of you ever getting jury duty is close to nil.

What has this to do with the OP ??

Jonny7

weisses wrote: »

What has this to do with the OP ??

Juries have to deal with something called "evidence". They don't do prophecies and predictions, therefore it's a good way to get out of jury duty to start spouting them.

Obama is not the anti-Christ, and no, the government of the US is not going to stage an Oklahoma style bombing to kill it's own citizens just so that the incumbent can win the election..

Unless of course someone has got some ****ing evidence to the contrary

Brown Bomber

Jonny7 wrote: »

Juries have to deal with something called "evidence". They don't do prophecies and predictions, therefore it's a good way to get out of jury duty to start spouting them.

Obama is not the anti-Christ, and no, the government of the US is not going to stage an Oklahoma style bombing to kill it's own citizens just so that the incumbent can win the election..

Unless of course someone has got some ****ing evidence to the contrary

That doesn't answer the question. What has your personal opinion on who is or isn't suitable for jury duty got to do with the OP?

Run_to_da_hills

Jonny7 wrote: »

Juries have to deal with something called "evidence". They don't do prophecies and predictions, therefore it's a good way to get out of jury duty to start spouting them.

Obama is not the anti-Christ, and no, the government of the US is not going to stage an Oklahoma style bombing to kill it's own citizens just so that the incumbent can win the election..

Unless of course someone has got some ****ing evidence to the contrary

I still hold my ground to Obama being the forthcoming Antichrist and Global dictator.

If he gets mortally wounded in an assassination attempt and comes around days later as a wonder I will be fully convinced on that assertion.

I said before I would hold off on Obama until after the elections, but things have now changed. He is not playing ball, he has now brought America to the brink of martial law, he has been signing off more civil damaging EO's than ever before in the name of "national interest". For all we know the internet may be even censored or cut off by end of the year.

Torakx

Im not so sure on this one.
The only thing that makes me suspicious is the control of the materials for making bombs is officially in the hands of the gov.
Thats a bad sign lol
They already know they can take down 3 or more buildings with "two airplanes" and kill 3k+ citizens without any convictions.

So even a bomb that was "found" and disarmed would do the job i think.
They dont need to blow anyone else up for a while.
I would think maybe every few years they need a reinforcement.

Anyway besides that the elections are a fraud anyway.So i dont see the need to scare people into voting for a person...but a legislation yes that would make sense to me.Its all about congress NOT the voters imo.

Sarky

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I still hold my ground to Obama being the forthcoming Antichrist and Global dictator.

If he gets mortally wounded in an assassination attempt and comes around days later as a wonder I will be fully convinced on that assertion.

I said before I would hold off on Obama until after the elections, but things have now changed. He is not playing ball, he has now brought America to the brink of martial law, he has been signing off more civil damaging EO's than ever before in the name of "national interest". For all we know the internet may be even censored or cut off by end of the year.

And when none of this happens at all before Obama retires, what will you do? Admit you were wrong? Or just fob the title of antichrist off on the next president and start the tedious cycle again?

hooradiation

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I said before I would hold off on Obama until after the elections, but things have now changed. He is not playing ball, he has now brought America to the brink of martial law,

A highly dubious claim at best. One which rests on incorrect interpretations of the actual role and powers of the POTUS and seemingly deliberate misreadings of executive orders.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

he has been signing off more civil damaging EO's than ever before in the name of "national interest".

An oft repeated claim, one which has yet to have any questions about it answered.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

For all we know the internet may be even censored or cut off by end of the year.

Indeed, for all we know it may be replaced by tubes of blancmange.
I mean, "for all we know" is indeed the ultimate in weasel phraseology - it really does allow you to slip in any outrageous claim while still maintaining the slimmest of pretences of being a question.
Reminds me of Glen Becks infamous style of questioning.


I do however have to question your grasp of the current American political landscape when you honestly seem to think that the Obama campaign actually needs this kind of outlandish bond-esque scenario in order to win the election.

Monty Burnz

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I still hold my ground to Obama being the forthcoming Antichrist and Global dictator.

If he loses the election, will you still hold to that belief, or will you begin to question your world view?

Dude111

He has to do something TO STAY IN OFFICE!!!! (And i know he does as he isnt finished ruining us yet )

Run_to_da_hills wrote:

There was also a hell of a lot of flaws in the 9/11 plan.

Indeed and it sad so many CANT SEE IT!!!!!!

Monty Burnz

Dude111 wrote: »

Indeed and it sad so many CANT SEE IT!!!!!!

People can't see things that aren't there.

hooradiation

Dude111 wrote: »

He has to do something TO STAY IN OFFICE!!!!

Have you seen the ticket he's running against?
He doesn't need to "do something" - barring some kind of amazing catastrofuck there's no way that a charismatic, likeable incumbent is losing to team Gekko/Galt.

gnfnrhead

Torakx wrote: »

Anyway besides that the elections are a fraud anyway.So i dont see the need to scare people into voting for a person...but a legislation yes that would make sense to me.Its all about congress NOT the voters imo.

Dude111 wrote: »

He has to do something TO STAY IN OFFICE!!!!

Their is no need to scare people into voting because the majority will vote for him anyway. It'll take a miracle for anyone to get more votes than Obama. He isn't in any danger of losing unless he does something incredibly stupid and even then losing wouldn't be a sure thing, as Ireland has shown, voters take a lot to change their vote.

This has to be one of the least realistic CT's I've read in a long time.