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VRT on VW Caddy Crewvan?

  • 10-08-2012 8:50pm
    #1
    wexf0rd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 ✭


    Hi,
    Im looking at buying a tdi caddy 08 reg on english plates. It has 2 factory fitted seats in the rear with factory fitted belts. This is not a caddy life, it is just a standard caddy with the two extra seats in the back.
    Will this be a commercial and have commercial tax like a standard caddy.
    Also will the VRT be just 200 euro.
    Thanks in advance


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  • #2
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Does it have windows in the back and a bulkhead behind the rear seats?

    Either way I don't think it will qualify as the loadspace is too small.


  • #3
    wexf0rd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 ✭wexf0rd


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Does it have windows in the back and a bulkhead behind the rear seats?

    Either way I don't think it will qualify as the loadspace is too small.
    It has the standard back windows in the rear doors but no bulkhead behind the seats. I could take out the seats if not, How would vrt work on this


  • #4
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    wexf0rd wrote: »
    It has the standard back windows in the rear doors but no bulkhead behind the seats. I could take out the seats if not, How would vrt work on this

    Even without seats it will have the same VRT as a car based on emissions.


  • #5
    btb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭btb


    Might be classed as a Cat B vehicle, and would be subject to 13.3% of OMSP, but if they classed it as Cat A (as it has seats in the back) then would be based on emissions. Would have to be over 3.5T to get 200e VRT rate.


  • #6
    wexf0rd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 ✭wexf0rd


    btb wrote: »
    Might be classed as a Cat B vehicle, and would be subject to 13.3% of OMSP, but if they classed it as Cat A (as it has seats in the back) then would be based on emissions. Would have to be over 3.5T to get 200e VRT rate.

    I was told a caddy would get the 200 euro vrt rate??


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  • #7
    dodzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    wexf0rd wrote: »
    Hi,
    Im looking at buying a tdi caddy 08 reg on english plates. It has 2 factory fitted seats in the rear with factory fitted belts. This is not a caddy life, it is just a standard caddy with the two extra seats in the back.
    Will this be a commercial and have commercial tax like a standard caddy.
    Also will the VRT be just 200 euro.
    Thanks in advanFce
    we all know what you're up to ;)
    It's not gonna work unfortunately.


  • #8
    wexf0rd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 ✭wexf0rd


    dodzy wrote: »
    we all know what you're up to ;)
    It's not gonna work unfortunately.
    What am i up to??:confused:
    Its a really clean van and i would never be carrying more than 1 person


  • #9
    dodzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    wexf0rd wrote: »
    What am i up to??:confused:
    Its a really clean van and i would never be carrying more than 1 person
    Apologies, I was on another "thought" line :o

    VRT will not be commercial rate though, IMO


  • #10
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    wexf0rd wrote: »
    What am i up to??:confused:
    Its a really clean van and i would never be carrying more than 1 person

    Just buy a normal caddy then :confused:


  • #11
    Drummerboy08
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    VRT will be 13.3% if you're lucky.


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  • #12
    wexf0rd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 ✭wexf0rd


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    wexf0rd wrote: »
    What am i up to??:confused:
    Its a really clean van and i would never be carrying more than 1 person

    Just buy a normal caddy then :confused:
    It is a normal caddy with commercial tax up north. It is a standard caddy with just two seats in the back


  • #13
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Great, but if you only need 2 seats, why not buy one with 2 seats. Revenue aren't stupid, lads have been pulling stunts with jeeps putting seats back in etc. for years. Register that van down here as a 2 seater and it's no different.

    You haven't a hope of Reging it as a crewcab. Are they actually factory fitted seats, or just seats from a caddy life bolted in?


  • #14
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Great, but if you only need 2 seats, why not buy one with 2 seats. Revenue aren't stupid, lads have been pulling stunts with jeeps putting seats back in etc. for years. Register that van down here as a 2 seater and it's no different.

    You haven't a hope of Reging it as a crewcab. Are they actually factory fitted seats, or just seats from a caddy life bolted in?

    My brother brought in a crew cab, tipper Transit late last year, and after months of arguing, and seizing it - TWICE - they refused to allow it commercial VRT. Got done for €1600 instead if €200. And that was a tipper, for a legit paving business.

    You haven't a hope, unfortunately.

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  • #15
    wexf0rd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 ✭wexf0rd


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Great, but if you only need 2 seats, why not buy one with 2 seats. Revenue aren't stupid, lads have been pulling stunts with jeeps putting seats back in etc. for years. Register that van down here as a 2 seater and it's no different.

    You haven't a hope of Reging it as a crewcab. Are they actually factory fitted seats, or just seats from a caddy life bolted in?
    They are genuine vw factory fitted from new. The van is mint and good value. Thats why i want it so much


  • #16
    dodzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭dodzy


    wexf0rd wrote: »
    They are genuine vw factory fitted from new. The van is mint and good value. Thats why i want it so much
    http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/commercials/3746332 ????


  • #17
    topaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 ✭topaha


    Hi folks,
    Didn’t want to start a new thread. Resurrecting a related topic instead. I’m hoping someone might be able to help.

    Would there be VRT due on a caddy maxi (Irish reg’d) following conversion from a 2 seater to a 5 seater? (I’m wondering is the vrt on day 1 different for a 2 seater and 5 seater and if the balance between the two {if there is one} is payable after conversion?)

    Thanks for any help.


  • #18
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    You won’t be able to classify it as a crewcab now as far as I know

    Not even sure if you can classify it as a regular car either.

    VRT paid as a van would only have been €200.


  • #19
    topaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 ✭topaha


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    You won’t be able to classify it as a crewcab now as far as I know

    Not even sure if you can classify it as a regular car either.

    VRT paid as a van would only have been €200.

    Thanks for the reply. There does exist a factory built caddy 5 seater though, the Caddy Kombi, so a 5 seater would have to land on the vrt spectrum somewhere to be reg’d coming out of the factory?


  • #20
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    A new or used crewcab (as in a 5 seat van with separate load area which is classified as a commercial vehicle) now must have been factory built from day 1 to be registered as a crewcab.

    Now, if it’s a car and not a crewcab, things may be different. You can tax a van privately (cc rates and not CO2 rates apply, regardless of year in this case) but I’m not sure that the vehicle could actually be re-registered as a passenger car, if it could then you’d be paying the regular VRT for such a car minus the €200 already paid.

    Then you get into insurance, it’s still a van that was modified to be a car rather than a factory job, and this is likely to cause issues.


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