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DHS and US Military Make Final Preparations Before Announcing Martial Law.

  • 09-08-2012 9:31am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭


    It now looks like the inevitable and the pot is finally boiling. Martial Law looks is at the US's doorstep and now possibly just one pre election false flag or [URL="Staged Presidential Assassination Are Near, Fears Tennessee Rep. Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/tennessee-rep-claims-martial-law-staged-presidential-assassination-near.html#ixzz22yaCpF7U"]staged presidential assignation attempt away[/URL].

    Obama has been paving the way for Martial Law ever since he took office with his fight terrorism executive orders. He is now fighting a court ruling that bans the indefinite detention without trial of US citizens.

    Anyone living in the US that has publicised ideologies against this up and coming fascist administration on social media should seriously consider leaving the country. It will not be too long before doors will be kicked down and those subversive against the regime being carted off indefinitely to US AKA FEMA concentration camps. .

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    Informants and military personnel are coming forth anonymously to confirm that martial law “is right around the corner.” However, right now we are under a silent martial law and citizens are reporting strange and unexplainable activity from the US armed forces and multiple federal agencies that point to a covert preparatory operation to completely lock down America in the very near future.

    Sources from multiple locations across the nation have independently confirmed that the US military are repositioning soldiers in conjunction with allied foreign troops in the initial stages of martial law.

    In section 1021 of the NDAA, the president’s authority to hold a terrorism suspect “without trial, until the end of the hostilities” is reaffirmed by Congress.


    http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/08/09/dhs-and-us-military-make-final-preparations-before-announcing-martial-law/
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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Is it me or are sites like Pakalertpress making decent money?

    Why aren't we in on this gravy train?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Is it me or are sites like Pakalertpress making decent money?

    Why aren't we in on this gravy train?

    Its called being smart.

    I'm sure anyone could do the same if they gathered up whatever relative media links.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    But surely they need the false flag attack at the Olympics as a precursor to martial law? Only 4 more days to wait.

    Or maybe the Antichrist will just reveal his true nature and there will be no need for martial law

    Or maybe he's not the Antichrist and there will be no false flag in London and he'll organise a other mass shooting

    Or maybe he's not the Antichrist and there will be no false flag in London or a mass shooting and the NWO will take over.

    I think i've covered your last few weeks posts pretty solidly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    But surely they need the false flag attack at the Olympics as a precursor to martial law? Only 4 more days to wait.

    Or maybe the Antichrist will just reveal his true nature and there will be no need for martial law

    Or maybe he's not the Antichrist and there will be no false flag in London and he'll organise a other mass shooting

    Or maybe he's not the Antichrist and there will be no false flag in London or a mass shooting and the NWO will take over.

    I think i've covered your last few weeks posts pretty solidly

    It now looks like Uk maybe following in their footsteps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Its called being smart.

    I'm sure anyone could do the same if they gathered up whatever relative media links.

    What's smart? they run a site full of garbage scare stories? some people lap it up, there must be money in this :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    What's smart? they run a site full of garbage scare stories? some people lap it up, there must be money in this :)
    Garbage to those that couldn't be bothered following up on the links that they provide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Garbage to those that couldn't be bothered following up on the links that they provide.

    That website is nothing more than doomsday porn. It's just a modern internet version of..

    Weekly_World_News_-_Cover_Art_4800.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub



    That's not a link and nice of you to ignore the rest of the post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭gibraltar


    Final preparations - ok that means it has to happen soon... so RTDH silence all the doubters, prove that your interpretation of the bible has given you the keys to unlock the mystery of the forthcoming rise of the antichrist... just answer this one question;

    When will it happen? next five days? nest week? afterall they are almost ready so it has to be soon, please tell us so we can be prepared, when will it happen?

    P.S. if you are unable to answer please fell free to post a shopped photo from a tea party site or any random link you like, thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Its called being smart.

    I'm sure anyone could do the same if they gathered up whatever relative media links.

    Psychics make a fortune too but it doesn't make them smart. Just like this site, they are exploitative. Pakalert exploit people's insecurities and paranoia. I also followed some of their links, they simply linked back to themselves or other conspiracy sites.

    Actual conspiracies have been uncovered by the mainstream press. The Washington Post took down an entire president during Watergate. Pakalert on the other hand have not uncovered anything although you'll probably claim that their conspiracies have been confirmed....


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭Brain Stroking


    I see Run_To_Da_Hills has moved on from his failed "London is an Olympic Ghost Town" thread. Keep it vague man. Thats how you make a conspiracy theory work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Corkfeen wrote: »
    Psychics make a fortune too but it doesn't make them smart. Just like this site, they are exploitative. Pakalert exploit people's insecurities and paranoia. I also followed some of their links, they simply linked back to themselves or other conspiracy sites. .
    Pakalert Press gets people thinking, more so than your average main stream media dumbdown.

    People can now follow up and look for themselves through media links to see if there is any possibility of martial law happening.

    BTW when Martial law is passed the first thing that will disappear will be on line communication. Of course you would think that this is a great thing because it would kill off the likes of Pakalert Press and other of your so called scaremongering sites.

    Corkfeen wrote: »
    Actual conspiracies have been uncovered by the mainstream press. The Washington Post took down an entire president during Watergate. Pakalert on the other hand have not uncovered anything although you'll probably claim that their conspiracies have been confirmed....

    I now consider martial law the inevitable..

    "Tennessee lawmaker forwards e-mail saying Obama to impose martial law by faking own assassination"

    This is also something that I would expect as seen as he is so good at staging everything else, Bin Laden, Underwear Bombers, Arura and what ever else. .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc




    Came across this last night.

    One theorist put an explanation of an imminet natural disaster about to hit the West Coast of the US as a reason for these "assets" being moved. But it could back up RTDH's theory.

    Or it could be something totally innocent (as innocent as moving a few hundred tanks across the country can be)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭gibraltar




    I now consider martial law the inevitable..

    "Tennessee lawmaker forwards e-mail saying Obama to impose martial law by faking own assassination"

    This is also something that I would expect as seen as he is so good at staging everything else, Bin Laden, Underwear Bombers, Arura and what ever else. .

    Ok its inevitable and final preparations are being made - so when is it going to happen? prove your theories with an answer, come on when is going to happen, you dont even need to get as close as a day or week just name the month that martial law will come into effect - even the season will do, come on...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    gibraltar wrote: »
    Ok its inevitable and final preparations are being made - so when is it going to happen? prove your theories with an answer, come on when is going to happen, you dont even need to get as close as a day or week just name the month that martial law will come into effect - even the season will do, come on...
    Before november 6th seems about right.

    I think others would also go along with that.


    That would give us a little under three months. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭gibraltar


    Before november 6th seems about right.

    I think others would also go along with that.


    That would give us a little under three months. :)

    Great thats great a real answer - just to confirm- november 6th is when the antichrist will usher in his reign of terror martial law will be effected in America.

    I want to be sure here so is that 100% confirmed, set in stone and iron clad guaranteed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Before november 6th seems about right.

    I think others would also go along with that.


    That would give us a little under three months. :)
    Just like the olympics..... :) When nothing happens, you'll claim they were spooked or something along those lines.
    Pakalert Press gets people thinking, more so than your average main stream media dumbdown.

    People can now follow up and look for themselves through media links to see if there is any possibility of martial law happening.

    BTW when Martial law is passed the first thing that will disappear will be on line communication. Of course you would think that this is a great thing because it would kill off the likes of Pakalert Press and other of your so called scaremongering sites.




    I now consider martial law the inevitable..

    "Tennessee lawmaker forwards e-mail saying Obama to impose martial law by faking own assassination"

    This is also something that I would expect as seen as he is so good at staging everything else, Bin Laden, Underwear Bombers, Arura and what ever else. .

    You regularly post links of documents that don't say what you say they do. These statements are based solely upon what Pakalert or Prisonplanet told you was the 'truth' and what they say is said in documents..... There is plenty of actual news outlets that are perfectly capable of telling the news and they will provide real sources. The sites you refer to, generally have no basis for their statements and say what a certain branch of people want to hear....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    Before november 6th seems about right.

    I think others would also go along with that.


    That would give us a little under three months. :)

    So what happens when martial law is not declared in the US and they have the Presidential election as normal?

    Will you admit that it was a load of rubbish, or will you just give the usual 'oh they must have decided to put it off' guff?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    seanmacc wrote: »

    Came across this last night.

    One theorist put an explanation of an imminet natural disaster about to hit the West Coast of the US as a reason for these "assets" being moved. But it could back up RTDH's theory.
    This could possibly explain something. :eek:

    New prediction from psychic who nailed Japan quake.

    104 Hour Tsunami Warning Close: Celebrity Psychic Mitchell Coombes; 9.5, 9.6, 9.4, 9.4 Earthquakes To Come ‘Within The Same Hour’?

    "Ok everyone, you’ve been warned of what’s to come, we are getting extremely close to the 104 hour tsunami warning. I strongly advise that if you live on the east coast of NSW and west coast of USA, have your evacuation gear ready to go as soon as possible. I said on March 11 that California would be next after Japan’s countdown… Sydney’s earthquake will be magnitude 9.5, California’s earthquake will be magnitude 9.6, followed by two 9.4′s, all of these tsunamis will be created in the same exact hour."

    http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2012/08/104-hour-tsunami-warning-close-celebrity-psychic-mitchell-coombes-9-5-9-6-9-4-9-4-earthquakes-to-come-within-the-same-hour-2442432.html

    http://www.facebook.com/mitchellcoombes2012


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Pakalert Press gets people thinking, more so than your average main stream media dumbdown.

    Not so much thinking as using your imagination :pac:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭asherbassad


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    What's smart? they run a site full of garbage scare stories? some people lap it up, there must be money in this :)


    Why always the smiley faces after your "stab in the dark" jibes?

    Is it to soften the substance of the replies?


    My impression of you:

    "Anyone who doubts or has ever doubted the existence of Iraqi WMD and their ability to annihilate Europe in 45 minutes is a tin-foil hat wearing terrorist sympathiser :);)"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Dont know why you folks cant see past a few sensational words and pictures.
    Is everyone these days dazzled by pretty lights?
    Focus on the content that applies.This becomes natural after you watch over 100 CT related videos.
    Until then, you waste your breath so to speak, asking a person posting theories to predict the future.

    Unless RTTH's works very high up in the American gov,which i doubt lol...how do you expect him to predict the future so accurately?

    I mean if he said martial law within the year, ok a brave guesstimate...but you must understand it IS a guess, based on the information he has collected.Not based on word straight from the Bilderberg group or something similar.

    Wish some "skeptics" would stop being irrational and rise above the sensationalism by actually dicsussing the likelyhood of this happening.

    Fair enough if you dont think this is remotely possible within the next 5 years.State exactly why you think so.
    The way has been paved on this forums long ago for this theory.
    Instead of trying to score a "win" as some misguided souls might see it,by asking for the near impossible, you could actually challenge your minds.
    Why take the easy bait? Are we at this level of simplicity in general? :(
    Come on guys, make an effort.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    My impression of you:

    "Anyone who doubts or has ever doubted the existence of Iraqi WMD and their ability to annihilate Europe in 45 minutes is a tin-foil hat wearing terrorist sympathiser :);)"
    To be honest, that claim - even at the time it was made - was almost as silly as all this martial law/Obama anti-Christ stuff. It was just a fig-leaf to allow the Neo-Cons justify what they were going to do anyway. Comparisons between the USA and ancient Rome are a bit of a cliché at this stage, but it's interesting to note that Rome also only ever fought 'defensive' wars - even if they had to provoke the hell out of others or basically just make something up for the home audience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭gibraltar


    Torakx wrote: »
    Dont know why you folks cant see past a few sensational words and pictures.

    I think most people can, but when thats all there is...
    Torakx wrote: »
    Unless RTTH's works very high up in the American gov,which i doubt lol...how do you expect him to predict the future so accurately?

    I agree, so can anyone explain how RTDH makes so many predictions?, no maybes, no ifs but plenty of It will happen. how does he know?
    Torakx wrote: »
    I mean if he said martial law within the year, ok a brave guesstimate...but you must understand it IS a guess, based on the information he has collected.Not based on word straight from the Bilderberg group or something similar.

    RTDh never mentions guessing, he said it would occur in a matter of weeks. as for his source, its not bilderberg, its the bible, every theory he has is based on his decoding of the book of revelations - TBF thats not collecting information - thats reading fairytales and saying the pixies agree with him.
    Torakx wrote: »
    Wish some "skeptics" would stop being irrational and rise above the sensationalism by actually dicsussing the likelyhood of this happening.
    .

    Ok honest question - do you think its rational to say that martial law will be declared in America within weeks because someone claims to have decoded the bible?

    Thats a genuine question, is that a valid basis for a theory?
    Torakx wrote: »
    Instead of trying to score a "win" as some misguided souls might see it,by asking for the near impossible, you could actually challenge your minds.

    i did this years ago by challenging what I was brought up to accept as the truth, I looked beyond the bible for an easy answer, as I presume you have too, so I dont understand you defense of someone whos only argument is better suited to a religious arena.
    Torakx wrote: »
    Why take the easy bait? Are we at this level of simplicity in general? :(
    Come on guys, make an effort.

    with RTDH there is no difficult bait... its all the same - revelations, antichrist, microchips, I thought after RTDH got caught copy & pasting his entire posts he might try something new but sadly not to be.

    as for the level of simplicity, when the thread begins with utter nonsense its an uphill climb.

    Lets be honest RTDH act is getting old, even the recent attempt to move to a tea party stance has done little to distract from the law of diminishing returns , random headline + Obama + bible = conspiracy... I dont understand why you are defending him, at best all he does is cloud more important issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    All points noted.
    I did indeed come from a very religious background especially focussing on prophecies in revelations and Isaiah.
    And i also did make a complete turn around and go in the opposite direction for some years after i left.
    Im now a bit more balanced..i hope :) and probably no suprise the to hear im agnostic.Atheism is too definite lol

    My point to all the people havign a go is that they are wasting their time focussing on religious content.
    I take what information RTTH's puts out that is not bible related and go with that.
    I have filters...

    Im a little frustrated at people here who seem to be unable to filter information at all.
    Or what seems more likely, just hee to make themselves feel better by focussing on the easy target of religious speculation.
    These should be infracted or banned or they will never learn how to filter or lower their egos.

    I dont remember anything much about the anti christ in the op.

    Martial law is not that outrageous that it will definetly not happen in America...so whats the issue here?
    Seems its peoples willingness to harrass people who contribute to the forums.

    Who cares if he guesses the date wrong...are you guys having a laugh?

    I just want to discuss martial law and how possible it could be and im happy to speculate with everyone else on when and who initiates.

    Its not easy with retarded behaviour and childish egotistical jabs from a percieved higher ground.
    Not pointing at anyone in particular.
    I just find this behaviour taxing on my love for humanity lol

    Just to be clear or round it up.
    I think anyone who posts a smart ass comment about how his theory on the anti christ cant be true is being retarded or is retarded in some way.
    Doesnt take a genious to know what the majority think.And i much more respect people who can ignore the obvious and focus on the important information or key issues that might actually be relevant.

    If someone believes in God fair enough, does not mean i cant dicuss the Ct with them from my view point or as a devils advocate.
    Ok honest question - do you think its rational to say that martial law will be declared in America within weeks because someone claims to have decoded the bible?

    Thats a genuine question, is that a valid basis for a theory?
    Apologies if im wrong, but where in the op or posts after did he say his information came form the bible?

    So far i have a link from the op http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-indefinite-detention-forrest-070/
    Which seems to relate to court proceedings.Although the court probably aknowledges the bible quite strongly so maybe they follow the book of revelations too :D

    I dont think its rational to say that ANYTHING will happen like that in such a short time frame.But it might be a very good guess based on research of legislation,war tiem behaviour and political moves in that country.
    And this is what i am interested in discussing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Torakx wrote: »
    Im a little frustrated at people here who seem to be unable to filter information at all.
    The problem is that most of what some people post isn't actual information, it's opinion, speculation or outright fiction. You can't argue with the actual facts that they post - they just post so few of them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    The problem is that most of what some people post isn't actual information, it's opinion, speculation or outright fiction. You can't argue with the actual facts that they post - they just post so few of them!

    http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-indefinite-detention-forrest-070/
    The White House has filed an appeal in hopes of reversing a federal judge’s ruling that bans the indefinite military detention of Americans because attorneys for the president say they are justified to imprison alleged terrorists without charge.

    So this never happened?

    Reuters reports this week that the government believes they are justified to have the authorization to lock alleged belligerents up indefinitely because cases involving militants directly aligned against the good of the US government warrants such punishment. Separate from Judge Forrest’s injunction, nine states have attempted to, at least in part, remove themselves from the indefinite detention provisions of included in the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, or NDAA.
    Or this?

    Sorry if this has been covered, i may have missed it between all the spam and insults.
    im still searching for biblical prophecies in the op but none to be found.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Torakx wrote: »

    Im a little frustrated at people here who seem to be unable to filter information at all.
    Or what seems more likely, just hee to make themselves feel better by focussing on the easy target of religious speculation.
    These should be infracted or banned or they will never learn how to filter or lower their egos.

    Not directed at you personally but..

    424256_10151080577077418_959142895_n.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Torakx wrote: »
    http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-indefinite-detention-forrest-070/


    So this never happened?



    Or this?

    Sorry if this has been covered, i may have missed it between all the spam and insults.
    im still searching for biblical prophecies in the op but none to be found.
    Those things are factual, and I've no problem with facts. Would you like me to post a few dozen examples of outright fiction to balance things out?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 97 ✭✭SIR PEADO BAILOUT


    To be honest, that claim - even at the time it was made - was almost as silly as all this martial law/Obama anti-Christ stuff. It was just a fig-leaf to allow the Neo-Cons justify what they were going to do anyway. Comparisons between the USA and ancient Rome are a bit of a cliché at this stage, but it's interesting to note that Rome also only ever fought 'defensive' wars - even if they had to provoke the hell out of others or basically just make something up for the home audience.

    Jaysus you got that right, cliche hey :rolleyes: and sure who`s fiddling now :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Those things are factual, and I've no problem with facts. Would you like me to post a few dozen examples of outright fiction to balance things out?
    Sure, if they are from this thread.
    But even if there are fictional responses,my point still stands i think.
    I didnt do a /rage on the antichrist thread iirc.
    But where nobody was antagonised if you can even call it that, by religious speculation, i believe i am making a good point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Torakx wrote: »
    Sure, if they are from this thread.
    Ok, this thread only:

    This is pure fiction:
    Informants and military personnel are coming forth anonymously to confirm that martial law “is right around the corner.” However, right now we are under a silent martial law and citizens are reporting strange and unexplainable activity from the US armed forces and multiple federal agencies that point to a covert preparatory operation to completely lock down America in the very near future.

    Sources from multiple locations across the nation have independently confirmed that the US military are repositioning soldiers in conjunction with allied foreign troops in the initial stages of martial law.

    This is fiction and (at best) pure speculation on the part of a right wing nut in America:
    The latest example comes from Tennessee where state Rep. Kelly Keisling (R) is telling his constituents he believes President Obama plans to fake his own assassination and declare martial law all to avoid an election against Republican challenger Mitt Romney.

    The communications came in an email sent from a government email address in his office. Keisling forwarded the email along with a warning that the President is coordinating the rouse with the Department of Homeland Security. According to The Huffington Post, the rumor was apparently started by a Florida-based conservative blogger, and was based on an article written by Doug Hammon and posted on CanadaFreePress.com.

    This is some total nonsense about a 'psychic'* - you know, like Mystic Meg and that strange guy on TV3 at night:
    According to ‘Celebrity Psychic’ Mitchell Coombes, we are getting very close to the 104 hour countdown to an Australian and California tsunami.

    Prior to the Japan earthquake of March 11, 2011, Mitchell posted a 104 hour countdown to the earthquake and nailed it.

    That's just from a couple of contributions on this thread alone. There may even have been more if people were able to post all their links correctly.

    This stuff is not factual, and it's not evidence of anything other than the type of stuff some (quite strange) people are saying.

    On the other hand, appealing the decision that refused to allow military prisoners be held indefinitely - that's fact. That is something we all can work with.

    *how believing in 'psychics' fits in with Christianity and the Bible, I just don't understand, but that's for someone else to explain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    That is fair enough about psychics if his main theory is based on that.
    But he has a half decent theory from the op and after that post are some smart asses who think everything he says has to relate to the apocalypse and totally miss that there might be a theory there to work with.

    If RTTH's just happens to be trolling(which i doubt) then who are the bigger fools?
    If he believes in psychics which i dont think he brought up,but responded to, then fair enough, what are we going to do, convert him to the popular religion of atheism? ok its not a religion but its close :D

    However i agree if any of the above posts are based on religious belief alone without any foundation in our reality and hiding this fact i would then agree with you 100% in those cases.

    About Rep. Kelly Keisling, i havent looked into it yet, so not sure how you know its not true.
    At first glance it is too sensational for me to aknowledge as being true or 100% true.But i cant discount it for now either.
    I may have missed a rebuttle though on that point,been a busy day today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Torakx wrote: »
    However i agree if any of the above posts are based on religious belief alone without any foundation in our reality and hiding this fact i would then agree with you 100% in those cases.
    I'm not really arguing that the above links are based on religious belief (although it is likely that some are) - I'm just pointing out that those things are not 'factual evidence', they are opinions, imaginings, scare-stories, paranormal nonsense and so forth put forth as if they are evidence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Torakx wrote: »
    About Rep. Kelly Keisling, i havent looked into it yet, so not sure how you know its not true.
    At first glance it is too sensational for me to aknowledge as being true or 100% true.But i cant discount it for now either.
    I may have missed a rebuttle though on that point,been a busy day today.

    From the Huff Post:
    WASHINGTON -- A Republican member of the Tennessee state legislature emailed constituents Tuesday morning with a rumor circulating in conservative circles that President Barack Obama is planning to stage a fake assassination attempt in an effort to stop the 2012 election from happening.

    Rep. Kelly Keisling (R-Byrdstown) sent an email from his state email account to constituents containing a rumor that Obama and the Department of Homeland Security are planning a series of events that could lead to the imposition of "martial law" and delay the election. Among the events hypothesized in the email is a staged assassination attempt on the president that would lead to civil unrest in urban areas and martial law.

    Keisling appears to have forwarded a more widely circulated email from Joe Angione, a Florida-based conservative blogger. Angione prefaces the rumor by saying it has not been confirmed but likewise notes it has not been denied. Angione also writes that people need to work to prevent the rumor from becoming reality.
    It's as if he's suggesting that by not denying this (umpteenth) ridiculous rumour, the government is actually giving it some credence. Oh my god. Anyway, basically the guy putting around the rumour seems to have no proof for it either. Perhaps this indicates it is nonsense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Yep its kind of as i thought on that one, just rumour mongering.
    And i doubt i was getting at you on this thread Monty.
    Unless you posted on the first page about the Ct being orientated around religion before the op'er even mentioned anything of the sort.

    I highly doubt Obama will be assassinated or fake assassinated.That would actually make me laugh if i saw that on the news as harsh as that might sound it would be ridiculous...but not beyond the US gov from what ive seen from them so far!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭gibraltar


    Torakx wrote: »
    My point to all the people havign a go is that they are wasting their time focussing on religious content.
    I take what information RTTH's puts out that is not bible related and go with that.
    I have filters...

    By filtering like that you are effectively cherry picking the items that fit the narrative you want.
    Torakx wrote: »
    Im a little frustrated at people here who seem to be unable to filter information at all.
    Or what seems more likely, just hee to make themselves feel better by focussing on the easy target of religious speculation.
    These should be infracted or banned or they will never learn how to filter or lower their egos.

    By "filter information" in relation to RTDH that means ignore total nonsense.

    For example if I wrote "Martial law will be effected in america within three years, I know this because Obama id trying to get rid of all the guns (insert link to tangent news item) also God told me this is true"

    Would you be happy to simply filter out the part about God talking to me and believe everything else?

    Torakx wrote: »
    Who cares if he guesses the date wrong...are you guys having a laugh?

    Again RTDH did not guess, he stated that it would happen, not that it might happen.


    Torakx wrote: »
    Its not easy with retarded behaviour and childish egotistical jabs from a percieved higher ground.
    Not pointing at anyone in particular.
    I just find this behaviour taxing on my love for humanity lol

    "retarded behaviour and childish egotistical jabs from a percieved higher ground" I dont think anything is more egotistical than someone posting that they have a true understanding of a book that gives them and only them insight into the future.

    Torakx wrote: »
    Just to be clear or round it up.
    I think anyone who posts a smart ass comment about how his theory on the anti christ cant be true is being retarded or is retarded in some way.
    Doesnt take a genious to know what the majority think.And i much more respect people who can ignore the obvious and focus on the important information or key issues that might actually be relevant.

    What do you mean by ignore the obvious? for me the obvious is that when a theory is based on a fantasy and all other information is added to simply build on that fantasy - the end result is at best a fantasy with elements of truth woven into it.
    Torakx wrote: »
    Apologies if im wrong, but where in the op or posts after did he say his information came form the bible?

    Come on be serious, has RTDH ever had any other theory?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    gibraltar wrote: »
    By filtering like that you are effectively cherry picking the items that fit the narrative you want.



    By "filter information" in relation to RTDH that means ignore total nonsense.

    For example if I wrote "Martial law will be effected in america within three years, I know this because Obama id trying to get rid of all the guns (insert link to tangent news item) also God told me this is true"

    Would you be happy to simply filter out the part about God talking to me and believe everything else?




    Again RTDH did not guess, he stated that it would happen, not that it might happen.





    "retarded behaviour and childish egotistical jabs from a percieved higher ground" I dont think anything is more egotistical than someone posting that they have a true understanding of a book that gives them and only them insight into the future.




    What do you mean by ignore the obvious? for me the obvious is that when a theory is based on a fantasy and all other information is added to simply build on that fantasy - the end result is at best a fantasy with elements of truth woven into it.



    Come on be serious, has RTDH ever had any other theory?

    Why do you even bother opening the thread if you have already judged whats in it?
    And when you do open it, why do you entertain a percieved fantasy?

    I dont see martial law as a fantasy. I do see the apocalypse as a fantasy.
    So yes i choose to focus on what i percieve as reality and try my best to find and talk about information i find and see based on this.

    Just because RTTH's might think martial law is related to a religious belief as many do, does not in any way mean that martial law will not take place anyway.
    Its seems common sense then to investigate the reality as we see it instead of trolling about something we "know for certain".

    I do still consider it mildly retarded to argue about something you cant change and you dont even believe in, especially when it comes to religious belief systems.
    Maybe i just know better about argueing those things because of my past.But i had thought this was obvious.

    It seems to me RTTH's wanted to talk about martial law and legislation/politics and a couple of trolls wanted to steer it towards psychics and religion for an easy troll session, seemingly to me because they wanted an easy target instead of using their brains and talking about realities of martial law.

    ps , i treat every thread as a new theory by default.Unless he states his religious belief i do not even consider it into the equation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭gibraltar


    Torakx wrote: »
    Why do you even bother opening the thread if you have already judged whats in it?
    And when you do open it, why do you entertain a percieved fantasy?

    I dont see martial law as a fantasy. I do see the apocalypse as a fantasy.
    So yes i choose to focus on what i percieve as reality and try my best to find and talk about information i find and see based on this.

    Just because RTTH's might think martial law is related to a religious belief as many do, does not in any way mean that martial law will not take place anyway.
    Its seems common sense then to investigate the reality as we see it instead of trolling about something we "know for certain".

    I do still consider it mildly retarded to argue about something you cant change and you dont even believe in, especially when it comes to religious belief systems.
    Maybe i just know better about argueing those things because of my past.But i had thought this was obvious.

    It seems to me RTTH's wanted to talk about martial law and legislation/politics and a couple of trolls wanted to steer it towards psychics and religion for an easy troll session, seemingly to me because they wanted an easy target instead of using their brains and talking about realities of martial law.

    ps , i treat every thread as a new theory by default.Unless he states his religious belief i do not even consider it into the equation.

    I have been polite and asked honest questions of you, in return you called me retarded for for not entertaining a religious fantasy.

    Also if you read the thread you will find that it was RTDH who brought up the Psychic - so do you think he is troll? or only people who disagree are trolls, anyway what would i know - after all I'm retarded for asking questions.

    Waste of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    gibraltar wrote: »
    Final preparations - ok that means it has to happen soon... so RTDH silence all the doubters, prove that your interpretation of the bible has given you the keys to unlock the mystery of the forthcoming rise of the antichrist... just answer this one question;

    When will it happen? next five days? nest week? afterall they are almost ready so it has to be soon, please tell us so we can be prepared, when will it happen?

    P.S. if you are unable to answer please fell free to post a shopped photo from a tea party site or any random link you like, thanks.

    Can you honestly say this post was in response to any statement in this thread about religion or the bible or the antiChrist from RTTH's?

    Because i have looked a few times now and still i cant see it.
    I dont think he is trolling because he appears to have a strong belief where religion is concerned.Aside from the fact you brought up religion nd not him.
    If you dont, then your better off not bothering.
    You cant change a persons religious beliefs by arguing them, i have lived that type of life for too long and the only way to instigate change is a building of respect and leading peope in the right your direction.Even then it can be near impossible to change a belief system like religion.
    To me alot of the arguing over nothing (as ive explained regarding belief systems) is totally retarded.I was being nice and saying mildly because im not sure if retarded is the correct word.There are different levels of retardation of the brains growth so i figured it a suitable word.
    I guess the behaviour of focusing on details so much could also be autism but im not a professional so plaease dont take my opinion that serious, im more talking about the behaviour presented in this thread than the people posting.
    Im sure theres good reason to be acting this way, i just havent understood it yet.

    Are we still discussing the obvious because the martial law topic is boring?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭gibraltar


    Torakx wrote: »
    Can you honestly say this post was in response to any statement in this thread about religion or the bible or the antiChrist from RTTH's?

    Every theory he has has the same idea at the core (when he chooses to discuss them)
    Torakx wrote: »
    I dont think he is trolling because he appears to have a strong belief where religion is concerned.

    So he is not trolling when he mentions physics but other people would be?
    Torakx wrote: »

    Are we still discussing the obvious because the martial law topic is boring?

    I think I will stop discussing this with you, as I posted I was polite and asked honest questions then you posted this.
    Torakx wrote: »
    I do still consider it mildly retarded to argue about something you cant change and you dont even believe in, especially when it comes to religious belief systems.
    Maybe i just know better about argueing those things because of my

    Saying arguing about something you dont believe in makes you retarded - I wonder if the "retarded" people always have an opinion different to yours...


    I dont believe that martial law will be effected and I cant change anyones mind who does, so in your book I'm mildly retarded, to me that means you will not take what I say seriously so I will not waste any more time trying to have a positive discussion with you.

    Edit; you called me "mildly retarded" to be nice? as for why you have not understood the "behaviour presented in this thread", here is a suggestion, why dont you ask he person to explain their opinion, it would be more effective then insulting them imho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Nearly everyone has some form or mental retardation in my view.It depends f you use the slang versio or the literal version.
    To retard something is to hold it back.Everyone has areas mentally where they are limited.
    I have my own too.
    I am still correct in that it was not RTTH's who started trolling.
    I didnt even name names to save face for those that did.
    But a closer looks shows that you did bring up alot of anti christ stuff which imo was very provocative.
    You could have went into legislation etc but you chose the easy route.

    You also mis quoted me, which distorts the meaning.

    Its perfectly normal for people to have different opinions.
    Its a little mentally retarded(proper use of the word) to try argue something you do not hold any faith in and cannot change anyway.
    Its an exercise in wasting time.
    im sorry genuinely if that has gotten to you.When i have a busy day like yesterday and will have today i have alot less patience, especally wheni have to try flick through loads of posts that are not on topic with the current thread :(

    Maybe im mildly autistic because i do use literal meanings for words when im talking seriously.

    lol by the way we are both looking like total retards now because of this conversation which is way off topic.
    1-0 to the trolls i guess.


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