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Normal beams and High/Full beams

  • 09-08-2012 12:47am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭


    Would like to know if its possible to adjust the set up of the normal beams and high beams.

    The set up of my car is to turn high beams on you have to pull the indicator stick towards you (two clicks to turn them on properly, one to flash them).

    However when you turn them on properly the normal beams cut out and this was something I could of doing without earlier in the fog. So to have both beams going at the same time you have to hold it as if you were to only use the flash part.

    Is it possible to have the two beams without having to do I as described above ? Would a mechanic be able to do something with the wiring ?

    Forgot to say, the car is a Fusion


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    you should avoid using full beams in fog as they just reflect back and dazzle you. It sounds like what you need is front fog lights.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    Sounds like H4 bulbs. It is possible to modify them to have both on, don't know what the extra heat would do for you bulb life though.
    As said already, full beams useless for real fog and you shouldn't be expecting to make anything like normal progress in real fog. Low beams or fog lights, and much slower than usual. (There is no need to have fog lights on for any "mist" that doesn't require you to slow right down)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    As above, it can be dangerous to use high beams in thick fog which is why there is no reason for both lights to work together, although, on many cars they do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭Mister Jingles


    Unfortunately the car doesn't have front fogs so full beams was the only other real option. Dipped lights on their own weren't really doing much for me so....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    Unfortunately the car doesn't have front fogs so full beams was the only other real option. Dipped lights on their own weren't really doing much for me so....

    Wait a second by dips do you actually mean parking lights?
    Because we meant dips.
    As in the the ones that work BETTER for real fog than full beams.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭Mister Jingles


    langdang wrote: »
    Wait a second by dips do you actually mean parking lights?
    Because we meant dips.
    As in the the ones that work BETTER for real fog than full beams.

    No, dipped/normal lights that you would use at nights time.

    This thread isn't about the use of lights in fog! I've asked how to have both normal/dipped lights and full/high beams on at the same time. Like Nissan Doc said a lot of cars out there work like this which I think is better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    No, dipped/normal lights that you would use at nights time.

    This thread isn't about the use of lights in fog! I've asked how to have both normal/dipped lights and full/high beams on at the same time. Like Nissan Doc said a lot of cars out there work like this which I think is better.

    You could have them wired up to come on together if you liked, I think the point people are making is that its pointless because high beams are not a replacement for fog lights as, at night, they will just blind you rather then shine under the fog as fog lights are designed to and you would obviously never drive along in day time with your high beams on regardless of conditions.

    If its just for looks then it can be done but, especially on modern cars, it can be a bit of work for no gain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    In your original post you wanted both beams in the context of fog. ("normal beams cut out and this was something I could of doing without earlier in the fog. ")

    Now that the fog has been removed from the equation, the following are the issues, apparently:
    1) Dipped beams alone not good enough. ("Dipped lights on their own weren't really doing much for me so")
    2) High beams alone not good enough. (you want dips to stay on with fulls)

    So you need to use both sets everywhere, any time either light is on?

    a)Eat more carrots
    b)Get better bulbs
    c)Get your lights adjusted
    or
    d)All of the above

    The cars where both beams are ON have 4 bulbs with single filaments instead of 2 bulbs with double filaments.
    It would be possible to hack your lights to have both filaments in both bulbs ON, but I'd say there would be repercussions for bulb life and possibly headlight plastic parts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭Mister Jingles


    Christ almighty no :rolleyes:

    I've simply asked if both beams could work at once. And Nissan Doctor has kindly explained it all to me.

    Obviously dipped beams are fine for when driving in a lit up place but not when on a road where there is no lighting at night time. This is common sense, there were instances last night where fools were driving around in normal lit up housing estates with all there lights on, dipped, full, and fog lights. The whole lot, blinding anyone who was oncoming.

    Eat more carrots ? Are you for real ?

    Go back and read the thread again and re-arrange this part of your post.
    In your original post you wanted both beams in the context of fog. ("normal beams cut out and this was something I could of doing without earlier in the fog. ")

    Now that the fog has been removed from the equation, the following are the issues, apparently:
    1) Dipped beams alone not good enough. ("Dipped lights on their own weren't really doing much for me so")

    2) High beams alone not good enough. (you want dips to stay on with fulls)
    The cars where both beams are ON have 4 bulbs with single filaments instead of 2 bulbs with double filaments.
    It would be possible to hack your lights to have both filaments in both bulbs ON, but I'd say there would be repercussions for bulb life and possibly headlight plastic parts.

    This seems to be the answer I was looking for, thank you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭Mister Jingles


    You could have them wired up to come on together if you liked, I think the point people are making is that its pointless because high beams are not a replacement for fog lights as, at night, they will just blind you rather then shine under the fog as fog lights are designed to and you would obviously never drive along in day time with your high beams on regardless of conditions.

    If its just for looks then it can be done but, especially on modern cars, it can be a bit of work for no gain.

    Cheers man, tbh anything that can assist in my vision in such conditions I'll make use of. And of course, no way would I use high beams in daytime.

    It wouldn't be for looks, no way, that would be pointless.


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