certified copy of documents

Faolchu

Folks

I need to get some documents copied for an application process but they must be certified copies. where would to go to get this done and roughly how much should it cost?

dublin daz

Faolchu wrote: »

Folks

I need to get some documents copied for an application process but they must be certified copies. where would to go to get this done and roughly how much should it cost?

Can they be done by your local Garda station?

I brought the originals and a copy to the local station and the they stamped each copy (page) on the back as a true copy of the original.

Thats free. I had called around local solicitors and the prices varied.

Zambia

Your bank manager should be able to do this for you.

They should certify the front page of the copy. In Australia that's the common practice.

Faolchu

Zambia wrote: »

Your bank manager should be able to do this for you.

They should certify the front page of the copy. In Australia that's the common practice.

my bank manager?? i use ulster bank so i wouldnt trust them to do it right

happy days a garda station it is so, i thought i may hav eneeded a comm of oaths or a lawyer or something

Zambia

My Ulster bank manager did mine. . . . . . .

Hooch

Garda stations are no longer allowed to certify true copies.

tricky D

I'm going to try the local Garda station in a few minutes anyway. Who else can do the certification? I'm at a loss as to why the Gardaí can't do it and also note in my case, a Death Cert, it would be cheaper to get a load of copies from the Reg Office at €8 a pop than going to a solicitor.

tricky D

Got 4 copies with zero problems. When I asked if it was no longer allowed, he did say something about new procedures which required me to write, 'I certify that this is a true copy of the original' on the back, then we both sign the back and he stamped both sides.

Simples.

angeline

Yes, you are the one who has certified that the copy is a true copy, not the guard. The guard merely witnessed what you wrote.

Hooch

angeline wrote: »

Yes, you are the one who has certified that the copy is a true copy, not the guard. The guard merely witnessed what you wrote.

Exactly. And as such it is not a certified copy.......

tricky D

Well, according to the Garda, it fulfills the requirements of the pension company which is what matters most.

Eru

tricky D wrote: »

I'm at a loss as to why the Gardaí can't do it

Because its not their job, Why would they do it? Would you do it for random people calling to your place of business?

McCrack

Eru wrote: »

Because its not their job, Why would they do it? Would you do it for random people calling to your place of business?

Its always good to be helpful to people and have a positive attitude in work, something that is generally lacking across public sector staff that deal face-to-face with "customers".

Someone looking to get documents certified is not going to call to a random place of work and ask. Going to a Garda station to ask is reasonable. Similarly asking your local bank manager is reasonable or a practising solicitor.

MagicSean

tricky D wrote: »

Well, according to the Garda, it fulfills the requirements of the pension company which is what matters most.

How would he know what they'll accept?

McCrack wrote: »

Its always good to be helpful to people and have a positive attitude in work, something that is generally lacking across public sector staff that deal face-to-face with "customers".

Someone looking to get documents certified is not going to call to a random place of work and ask. Going to a Garda station to ask is reasonable. Similarly asking your local bank manager is reasonable or a practising solicitor.

Regular Gardaí are not qualified to certify documents as genuine originals. How is a Garda supposed to know if the exam results or bank letter you bring in is a genuine original? You could make an argument for passports or driving licences but the fact remains that a regular garda at a counter would be unlikely to spot a comlpex forgery. There are specialists for this.

McCrack

Yes but my point was its not unreasonable to ask in a Garda station in the first place.

If the documents to be certified are non-state such as what you mention I think it is reasonable for the desk Garda to tell the person to get the college or bank to certify it as it is their own document.

nuac

1. with modern photocopying, photo-shopping, and availability of various fonts on wordprocessors and printers, it is possible to forge practically any document.

2. Identity can also be problematic especially in case of common names in a particular area.

3. For that reason many solicitors will only certify copy documents or witness signatures for those they know personally.

keano007

Hooch wrote: »

angeline wrote: »

Yes, you are the one who has certified that the copy is a true copy, not the guard. The guard merely witnessed what you wrote.

Exactly. And as such it is not a certified copy.......

You are technically right, but this is the procedure that's being adopted in all stations. The person certifies the copy and the Garda witnesses it.

I have done hundreds of documents in this manner and to date no one has come back to me which suggests that it is accepted.

Hooch

keano007 wrote: »

I have done hundreds of documents in this manner and to date no one has come back to me which suggests that it is accepted.

Shoddy banking went on for ten years and was accepted.....doesnt mean it is now.

Everything is relative. One day it will be realized it isn't certified and it "could" mean a whole lot of trouble in that people could be asked once again to submit correctly certified papers years after whatever they needed them for.

234

nuac wrote: »

3. For that reason many solicitors will only certify copy documents or witness signatures for those they know personally.

Well when it comes to swearings, I know dozens of solicitors who will happily oblige without having ever laid eyes on the deponent, or seen them sign.

McCrack

Deponents are rarely if ever swearing an Affidavit whilst being attested.

The jurat is amended to cover that (or at least it should be).

nuac

234 wrote: »

Well when it comes to swearings, I know dozens of solicitors who will happily oblige without having ever laid eyes on the deponent, or seen them sign.

Most solicitors I know, and I know hundreds over many years in practice, are very careful about what they witness or certify.

234

nuac wrote: »

Most solicitors I know, and I know hundreds over many years in practice, are very careful about what they witness or certify.

Hmmm, I guess that raises uncomfortable questions about the class of solicitor's I mix with then...:D

rightyabe

Hey, I'm just wondering about certifying documents here in Oz?

I have a scan of a copy of my birth cert, can I just print this off and take it to a chemist to get it certified or does it have to be a origional? Or do all my Irish documents like my degree, garda clearance got to be certified in Ireland?

Also for Australian documents like our house lease, joint bank statements etc. Can these be copied and then certified?

Cheers

Fred Swanson

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Delta2113

Can I get a friend to call to his bank to certify a utility bill for me?