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Car off-road on wrong side of the border

  • 07-08-2012 09:16AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭


    My mate has been working abroad for a bit and isn't likely to return permanently anytime soon.
    He parked his car up in Dublin before he headed off, and reported it to the Northern authorities as off-road (SORN cert.) Now, the car park spot he's left it in is needed soon, and he'll be back for a visit shortly and is looking to get rid of the car.
    Problem is, it's not taxed or insured, hasn't had its last MOT, and is on the wrong side of the border from where it's registered.
    What's the best thing to do here? (Obviously driving untaxed or uninsured is not a runner.)
    It's a ten year old Mondeo, hardly worth much, but the alloys are probably worth a few quid. He just wants rid of the headache really. I don't know much about how such things work, as I generally just buy a car and drive it till it won't go then replace it. So I thought I'd ask for him here.
    What's the best way for him to get the car offloaded legally and above board? He is the registered owner with all the paperwork available, and while the car probably does move, it hasn't been turned over in months.
    Are there scrap dealers in Dublin who would come and tow it? Or what would people recommend?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Bigus


    There are loads of scrap dealers that will come and take it and issue end of life cert, but I'd be trying to get 400 or 500 hundred for it on top of taking it away.
    Is it an 02 petrol mondeo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    01 petrol, I think. The alloys would be worth a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    Sorry for the bump, but can anyone give me a few numbers for scrapyards I could ring about this? I'm trying to get things sorted so my mate can just fly into town and get it offloaded before he heads up North to see the family.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    Throw an add for it on donedeal.
    Sell on that and state all that the car has is it worth putting on the road again as in is there high mileage or damage ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    you can't legally sell it in the Republic.I doubt you can legally scrap it either. So, you , sorry HE ,is going to have to bend the rules somehow.I think Id cover (or remove) the plates, advertise it for spares only and chance my arm.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    So it wouldn't be legal to scrap it south of the border?
    It's a decent car, mileage in the 70s, was running well last time it was going, clean, couple of scratches on the paintwork but no damage, good alloys, so it certainly could be sold for use, except its a Northern reg and is out of tax and insurance and missed the last MOT because it was off-road.
    So what are the options here? I said I'd look into what could be done for him, but I'm frankly not going to the trouble of putting up an ad and fielding calls on this. It's not mine, after all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    Hi red does he or you have anyone with property up north that you could bring the car up and park up as to sell that would be worth selling for road use I understand it's 01 but if only 70k on it that would be a good car.
    If you don't mind me asking whats he want for it.

    He would be ok to bring the car back up to park up once insured to do so as he has proof it has been off the road.
    Let the owner do that though cause you could always come across atough cop, but I wouldn't worry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    To be honest, I think he just wants rid of the headache (car could be clamped or towed in a bit if it isn't moved), but would like a few quid for the alloys at least as they cost a few quid. I have a gaff up north, but there's no off-road parking, plus the car's not insured or taxed or MOT'd.
    Problem is getting it up there. I don't want to drive it running the risk of getting pulled over for no tax disk etc, and I doubt he does either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    If he transfered insurance over for the few hours or that would be ok suppose you don't know anyone with a trade policy?
    Do you have any pics car/ alloys


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    If he transfered insurance over for the few hours or that would be ok suppose you don't know anyone with a trade policy?
    Do you have any pics car/ alloys

    still risky to drive it across the border with no tax /MoT.and probably not worth enough to pay for a transporter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    Dunno anyone with a trade policy, and to be honest I'm not running the risk of getting pulled over bringing it up to the North, and my mate doesn't want to either.
    How much would a transporter cost, or what is the situation with trying to get rid of it in the Republic? Is it definitely the case that it can't be sold or scrapped in the 26?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    Whats he want for it?
    Any pics?
    transportstarts from as little as €50 but to cross would be thinking around €100 or bit more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    I'll give him a bell later and ask, but to be honest I think if he got a few hundred to cover the value of the alloys he'd just be pleased to be rid of the headache. I haven't checked what the book price on those late 01 Mondeos are, North or South, but I don't think he's holding out for a top price. He's got a life elsewhere now and this is just a hassle for him that could get worse if the thing gets clamped and towed and he's left with a bill.
    I'll go check on the car tomorrow and take some pics but to be honest I think he and I are both agreed that the most painless way of resolving this is the best way forward. I've a load of work on and don't have the time to be dealing with it, and he only intends to be in town for the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    Well let me know send a pm I may be able to help now I not saying I can but you never know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Bigus


    Once he gets and end of life cert here he's fine on all fronts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    Sorry for sounding like a moron here, but is that straightforward? How would you go about it? Would the car need to be formally imported first or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Bigus


    Registered breakers will issue end of life cert.

    no it doesn't have to be registered here

    what do you think happens crashed uk cars here that can't drive home.
    Also parts don't require vrt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    OK. That's great. Is there a list of registered breakers in the Dublin area available anywhere? Or does anyone have recommendations?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,028 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,028 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Below is an *old* countrywide list from shagman that I had saved to e-mail. Some may be gone; phone nos. out of date etc. For instance, Summerhill Spares are now in Coolock....

    The original thread is here (in Classic Cars forum)
    shagman wrote: »
    List of 100+ car breakers/dismantlers in Ireland

    Here y'are the big list of car breaker/dismantlers which are located all over Ireland.
    If you can't find your part here, bring the car to the nearest breaker.
    You can always try KE Car Dismantlers first because KE has the biggest range of older cars IN THE COUNTRY!
    And we're located only 30 minutes from Dublin near Kildare Town.


    Bray Car Dismantlers
    Greenpark rd Bray Wicklow
    (01) 2860771

    Kenny Donal
    Ballycarney Enniscorthy Wexford
    (054) 88740

    Molloy John
    Tomgarrow Ballycarney Enniscorthy Wexford
    (086) 2514265

    MullingarAutoRecyclers.com
    Mullingar/Dubl/Nationwide Westmeath
    (044) 43755

    Moroney Jim Car Dismantlers
    Ballycullane Dungarvan Waterford
    (058) 43019

    Traynors Car Dismantlers & Motor Factors
    86 Armagh Rd Moy, Co Tyrone
    (048) 38891242

    Flynn P J Car Dismantling Ltd
    Capparoe Nenagh Tipperary
    (067) 25224

    Bailey Mike
    Dundrum rd Tipperary Tipperary
    (062) 52750

    Southern 4 X 4 Sales Ltd
    Garnavilla Cahir Tipperary
    (052) 42040

    McCarrick Anne
    Ballyglass Cloonacool Tubbercurry Sligo
    (071) 9184090

    North West Car Dismantlers
    Grange Sligo Sligo
    (071) 9163243

    Gillen Matthew
    Carrigans Ballinfull Maugherow Sligo
    (071) 9163054

    4 X 4 Market
    Erris Boyle Roscommon
    (071) 9662210

    Boyle Dismantlers
    9 Station Rd Boyle Roscommon
    (071) 9663385

    Bracken David
    Clara rd Ballycumber Tullamore Offaly
    (0506) 36333

    Condron Motor Factors
    Cappincur Tullamore Offaly
    (0506) 22905

    Morris Patk
    Annagh Birr Offaly
    (0509) 39098

    Atkinson Kenneth M
    Carrigans Emyvale Monaghan
    (047) 87247

    Sragh Breakers
    Sragh Ballybay Monaghan
    (042) 9748300

    Japarts.com
    Meath
    (046) 9541549

    TD Caldwell & Sons Ltd
    Ballinlough Kells Meath
    (046) 9243919

    Oristown Car Dismantlers
    Oristown Kells Meath
    (046) 9240165

    M D Power Steering Co.
    Greenpark Dunshaughlin Meath
    (086) 2777965

    B.S. Parts Ltd
    Boiles Duleek Co Meath Meath
    (041) 9823587

    Naughton Sean Car Spares
    Belcarra Co Mayo
    (094) 9032131

    McDonald Dismantlers
    Claremorris rd Ballinrobe Mayo
    (094) 9542077

    Dempsey's Car & Van Spares
    Whitestream, Bonniconlon, Ballina, Co Mayo
    (096) 45412

    Dunleer Car Dismantlers
    Grangebellew Co Louth
    (041) 6851214

    Dungooley Salvage
    Dungooley Kilcurry Dundalk Louth
    (042) 9377592

    All Clutch Repairs
    Cearns rd Bellewstown Louth
    (041) 9823995

    Ardee Car Parts
    Golf Links rd Ardee Louth
    (041) 6856428

    Midland Ford Auto Spares
    Carrickboy Longford
    (086) 8638226

    Norton Motors
    Ballinalee Longford
    (043) 23034

    Ahern John
    Tournafulla Limerick
    (069) 81171

    Fenton Liam
    Loughmore Hse Raheen Limerick
    (061) 229177

    Longs Garage
    Drombanna Limerick
    (061) 414948

    Auto Towing
    Castleconnell Limerick
    (061) 377496

    Autobreak
    Roxboro Ballysheedy Limerick
    (061) 314678

    O�Riordan David
    Scart Ballyneety Limerick
    (061) 351930

    Laffan Martin
    Stradbally Laois
    (0502) 25342

    Byrne Martin
    (aka 'The Chicken'
    Killone Stradbally Portlaoise Laois
    (0502) 46680

    Auto Dismantlers (Whelans) Portlaoise
    The Heath Portlaoise Laois
    (0502) 46663

    Assistance Mulhall
    Kilkenny
    (056) 7762508

    Power Paschal Car Sales
    Busherstown Glenmore Kilkenny
    (051) 878911

    Clara Cars
    Clara Co Kilkenny
    (056) 7726289

    Brien John Dismantlers
    Allenwood South Naas Kildare
    (087) 2295808

    Doolin Dismantlers
    Killeaney Maynooth Co Kildare
    (01) 6285339

    Kilcock Car Dismantlers
    Laragh Kilcock Co Kildare
    (01) 6285671

    All Spares Ltd
    Ballysax Curragh Kildare
    (045) 441453

    Auto Spares
    Boherbee Tralee Kerry
    (066) 7128200

    Treacy Sean
    Rangue Killorglin Kerry
    (066) 9762204

    Murhill Car Spares
    Church rd Muckross Killarney Kerry
    (064) 33719

    Nohilly Martin
    Cummer Tuam Galway
    (093) 41602

    Headford Road Car Dismantlers
    Headford rd Galway
    (091) 751148

    Greenhills Motor Spares
    Greenhills rd Walkinstown 12 Dublin
    (01) 4500003

    Duffy Bros
    Longmile rd Walkinstown 12 Dublin
    (01) 4604655

    A.A.C. Modern Car Spares
    Greenhills rd Walkinstown 12 Dublin
    (01) 4508178

    Miniparts.ie
    Mutton Lane Tibradden 16 Dublin
    (01) 4933544

    Boland Joe
    Nevenstown Swords Dublin
    (01) 8401907

    Summerhill Spares
    Ballymun Cross Santry 9 Dublin
    (01) 8624222

    Cafco Motorparts
    St Margarets 11 Dublin
    (01) 8642832

    O'Connor & Murphy Ltd
    Fitzwilliam st Ringsend 4 Dublin
    (01) 6683463

    Car Dismantlers South Dublin Autos
    Rear 371-385 South Circular rd Rialto 8 Dublin
    (01) 4733331

    Kinsella's Car Dismantlers
    Red Cow Naas rd Dublin
    (01) 4640726

    Joyce Wayne
    26 Cardiff Bridge Avenue Finglas West 11 Dublin
    (087) 7665455

    The Paddy Car Dismantler
    22 Caderbridge Avenue Finglas 5 Dublin
    (087) 6521525

    Southside Motor Spares
    The West Pier Dun Laoghaire Dublin
    (01) 2804177

    Farrelly & O'Sullivan Ltd
    Carmen Hall 8 Dublin
    (01) 4533985

    Fairview Car Dismantlers Cannon Motors
    Rear 16 Windsor ave 3 Dublin
    (01) 8332558

    H Q Auto Parts
    8-13 Emerald pl Saville pl 1 Dublin
    (01) 8366166

    Barney & Sons
    Morgans Place Blanchardstown, Castleknock 15 Dublin
    (087) 6830010

    Joyce Mr Bernard
    Church St Blanchardstown 15 Dublin
    (087) 2555634

    Christie P. Motors
    Man O'War Balbriggan Dublin
    (01) 8412339

    B.S. Parts Ltd
    Ashbourne Dublin
    (01) 8352107

    Japanese Autospares
    20 Ashbourne Ind Pk Ashbourne Co Meath
    (01) 8351740

    McDaid Car Dismantlers
    Main st St Johnston Donegal
    (074) 9148211

    Doherty Joseph P
    Ballinahone Churchbrae Fahan Donegal
    (074) 9360309

    Dungloe Car Breakers
    Meenmore Dungloe Donegal
    (087) 6167807

    Innisowen Car Dismantlers
    Anaugh Clonmany Donegal
    (074) 9376855

    Bridge Van Dismantler
    24 Macknagh la Maghera Co.Derry
    (048) 79643954

    Japrek
    Sluggera Cross Whitechurch Co Cork
    (021) 4385545

    Sixmilewater Car Dismantlers
    Sixmilewater Whitechurch Cork
    (021) 4886431

    Fenton Car Dismantlers
    Sluggera Whitechurch Cork
    (021) 4381012

    McCarthy Car Parts
    Watergrasshill Cork
    (021) 4889235

    Gerlan Car Parts Ltd
    Rutland st Cork
    (021) 4968500

    Keohane Car Parts
    Opp Airport Gate Cork
    (021) 4311814

    O'Sullivan John A
    Ballydaly Millstreet Cork
    (029) 70693

    Kirby Godfrey Car Dismantlers
    Bawnard East Midleton Cork
    (021) 4632790

    Smyth Frank
    Scarteen Kennell Hill Mallow Cork
    (022) 20231

    First Choice Dismantlers
    Clounbanin Cross Mallow Cork
    (029) 78026

    O'Sullivan Car Dismantlers
    Clonbanin Mallow Co Cork
    (029) 78031

    Paul Hogan Motors Ltd
    Raheens Carrigaline Cork
    (021) 4378942

    Pouladuff Car Dismantlers Ltd
    Forge Hill Airport rd Cork
    (021) 4311031

    Conway Car Dismantlers Ltd
    Tulla Co Clare
    (065) 6835369

    Ennis Motor Factors
    Mill rd Ennis Clare
    (065) 6828576

    Modern Car Dismantlers
    Doora Ind Est Quin rd Ennis Clare
    (065) 6822033

    J & J Breakers
    Nedd Doogarry Cavan
    (049) 4333098

    International Salvage Brokers ltd
    Killycannon Cavan
    (087) 6522610

    Corrigan - Autoparts of Cavan
    Cloverhill Cavan
    (049) 4338149

    Abbott Denis
    Belturbet Co Cavan
    (049) 9522078

    Mee's Car Dismantlers
    Gannons X Belturbet Cavan
    (047) 55119

    Doran Car Dismantlers
    Tinryland Carlow
    (059) 9146188

    Munnelly Car Spares
    Arles Carlow
    (059) 9147729

    D & R Breakers
    Fenniscourt Bagenalstown Carlow
    (059) 9722259

    Temple Auto Salvage
    11A Knockany rd Balliesmills Lisburn BT 27 6YB Antrim
    (048) 92638359

    E.T. International
    Ballymoney BT53 8HD Antrim
    (048) 27664161

    Not your ornery onager



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