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Close in a Balcony

  • 03-08-2012 12:48pm
    #1
    martinn123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭


    Hi Guys,

    three storey terraced house. balcony on the second floor, concrete floor, block walls at waist height with capping, lean to roof over balcony, open on three sides, all part of the original construct of the houses.
    With our wonderful weather, balcony is useless, as rain a constant, fairly exposed site, can I fit windows to close in the balcony, without planning permission.
    Its to the front of the house.
    Cheers.


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  • #2
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,449 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Simply, the answer would be no (IMO).

    That is not something specifically covered by exempted development, therefore, IMO, it would need planning permission.

    You could try Section 5 declaration route but I'd say you'd be told to apply for planning permission. Status would be similar to that of a conservatory.


  • #3
    Poor Uncle Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    No, imo.

    It isn't mentioned in the exemptions on SI no. 600 of 2001.


  • #4
    archtech
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭archtech


    The safety route would be obtain planning permission, failing going down that route, going down the Section 5 declaration route may address the matter. I would certainly pursue the later route first if the object of the exercise was to create a winter garden type enclosure.

    I definitely won't go ahead an enclose the balcony without one or the other from the planning authority/An Board Pleanala.


  • #5
    martinn123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    Thanks Guys, will advise client to seek Planning,

    love the idea of
    archtech wrote:
    the object of the exercise was to create a winter garden type enclosure.

    No its just to keep the fec*in rain out.


  • #6
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,449 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    I am going to assume the existing balcony is open on three sides? If this is the case, and as you say the house is terraced, the 11.0m rule for windows (above ground) from the boundaries they face, will get you at a minimum in terms of exemption and/or Section 5. In addition to the fact there is no exemption for anything at second floor (well that's how I would interpret the regs).


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  • #7
    MaureenMac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 ✭MaureenMac


    martinn123 wrote: »
    Thanks Guys, will advise client to seek Planning,

    love the idea of


    No its just to keep the fec*in rain out.

    Maybe just install Cafe Blinds if they are available made to measure in Ireland.


  • #8
    haulagebasher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭haulagebasher


    NO. Planning would be needed. And even to get planning you have to show that the stucture can handle the increased loading, ie increased permanent action from windows and proobably increased wind action. Get in a civil or structural engineer to analyse it. If it is a cantilevered balcony I doubt you would get away with it.


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