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trailer license

  • 03-08-2012 11:10am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭


    i got pulled the other day by a garda on the way to the factory, he checked my license said im not insured to pull a cattle box! Anyone know do i have to do a test or just upgrade my license to obtain this special privelege:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭dasheriff


    Unfortunately you have to do a trailer driving test and before that you have to do the theory test and get a provisional licence category EB..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Tora Bora


    dasheriff wrote: »
    Unfortunately you have to do a trailer driving test and before that you have to do the theory test and get a provisional licence category EB..

    In other words, you have to put the trailer on Donedeal:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    i got pulled the other day by a garda on the way to the factory, he checked my license said im not insured to pull a cattle box! Anyone know do i have to do a test or just upgrade my license to obtain this special privelege:(

    i heard that it's costing about €800 to do the lessons and all the whole associated paperwork..

    Maybe someone could confirm/bust that figure ??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    bbam wrote: »
    i heard that it's costing about €800 to do the lessons and all the whole associated paperwork..

    Maybe someone could confirm/bust that figure ??

    You don't have to do any lessons.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056115062&page=4


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    johngalway wrote: »

    thanks..
    I haddnt looked into it myself... pub talk :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Karmann


    Not sure how relevant this is but if you have an Artic truck license you are automatically covered for a car and trailer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭dasheriff


    An artic licence will cover you but not many younger generation farmers will have that and it did cost me a good €1000 or more to get the artic licence 4 or 5 years ago..Id imagine that the trailer test cant be as complicated tho..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭Casinoking


    An artic license DOES NOT cover you to drive a car and trailer, it's a different category altogether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭yog1


    Casinoking wrote: »
    An artic license DOES NOT cover you to drive a car and trailer, it's a different category altogether.

    it covers me and i did my artic test in jan, i'm in the north tough but you'd think it would be the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭dasheriff


    Casinoking wrote: »
    An artic license DOES NOT cover you to drive a car and trailer, it's a different category altogether.
    It definately does when you go in for the EC licence they tick the EB box aswell,i think they presume if you can pull a 40 foot trailer behind a truck you'll manage a car trailer..;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,321 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    Tora Bora wrote: »
    In other words, you have to put the trailer on Donedeal:D:D

    Don't be an asshole


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    If you did the driving test before 1989 and don't have a trailer licence you have 2 weeks to get it on your licence without doing a test.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭renandstimpy


    Casinoking wrote: »
    An artic license DOES NOT cover you to drive a car and trailer, it's a different category altogether.

    no offence meant but your wrong IT DOES .. im only after doing my test 3 weeks ago.


    by the way .. to get an artic license you need to do a rigid which is the C license first


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭gtx


    no offence meant but your wrong IT DOES .. im only after doing my test 3 weeks ago.


    by the way .. to get an artic license you need to do a rigid which is the C license first


    if u don't mind me asking how much did the artic license cost you to do. i have a rigid license and want to be able to pull a drag trailer was told to go for artic license it will cover both is this right?

    sorry for the hi jack on the tread. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭renandstimpy


    gtx wrote: »
    if u don't mind me asking how much did the artic license cost you to do. i have a rigid license and want to be able to pull a drag trailer was told to go for artic license it will cover both is this right?

    sorry for the hi jack on the tread. :rolleyes:

    with gills in castlebar .. for 8 hours lessons @ €80 euro an hour .. test €120 .. hire of truck for test €150 .. total €910 .....diesel used getting to sligo not taking into account .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭gtx


    with gills in castlebar .. for 8 hours lessons @ €80 euro an hour .. test €120 .. hire of truck for test €150 .. total €910 .....diesel used getting to sligo not taking into account .


    thanks for that do u know will your license cover a rigid an trailer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭satstheway


    3 2 hour lessons €300 in testers van with trailer. Used his van and trailer for test for free. You have to pay for theory test ,driving test, provisional license and to add the category unto your existing license. Probably adds up to about €450.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭renandstimpy


    gtx wrote: »
    thanks for that do u know will your license cover a rigid an trailer?

    Yup sure does


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭renandstimpy


    gtx wrote: »
    thanks for that do u know will your license cover a rigid an trailer?

    Yup sure does


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭iverjohnston


    Had a look at my own licence, having read this thread.
    I am licenced to drive small trucks up to 7500 kg,(C1) as is usual on the car licence. Also small truck and trailer up to 12000kg(E+C1), although never done a test with a trailer attached, and same for car and trailer (E+B)

    I got the rigid licence back in 2000.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭brian_t


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    If you did the driving test before 1989 and don't have a trailer licence you have 2 weeks to get it on your licence without doing a test.

    Car and Trailer Driving Licence Announcement
    It has been decided that a person who held a full driving licence for
    a car before 13 November 1989 and who did not then avail of the
    car and trailer licence option may now do so.

    To establish whether a driver is entitled to apply for the car and trailer licence the Road Safety Authority (RSA) must be satisfied that the driver held the car licence before 13 November 1989 and this initial assessment is being carried
    out by the RSA. You must have been born before 13 November 1972
    and have held a full driving licence for a car before 13 November 1989
    in order to apply.

    Any person who wishes to be considered must complete the Initial Assessment Form(PDF) and return it to the RSA by Friday 8 November 2013.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭NewBeefFarmer


    I could,

    sell my tractor trailer, and get one for a 2 or 2.5 car or jeep,
    Buy the car or jeep.
    Do the test, which seems to cost a bit doing it the way id do it. . . Taking a lesson or 2.

    Or. .

    Put 500 or even a 1000 in to stopping a few oil leaks on a ford 3000
    and keep money in my pocket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭NewBeefFarmer


    Hate that cold morning drive in feb/mar for 45 mins to mart though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭NewBeefFarmer


    Actually . . Why is a date in time a deciding factor whether some needs to sit a test or not! . . . Crazy irish crap. .

    Just like bupa. .
    Insurance. .

    Punish younger ones. . . .let them pay. .

    Uckers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    I could,

    sell my tractor trailer, and get one for a 2 or 2.5 car or jeep,
    Buy the car or jeep.
    Do the test, which seems to cost a bit doing it the way id do it. . . Taking a lesson or 2.

    Or. .

    Put 500 or even a 1000 in to stopping a few oil leaks on a ford 3000
    and keep money in my pocket.

    Remember if your buying a trailer to pull with your regular car lisence..
    The combined laden weight limit is 3500kg.

    Allow say 1900kg for a jeep that leaves you 1600kg for the trailer and its contents, so if you wanted to draw 2 500kg animals the trailer would need to be 600kg or less, wouldn't be much of a trailer for the job !!

    I'd say your options are get the lisecnce or upgrade the tractor to something more comfortable for longer journies..


    And the reason its done by date is that say a requirement for liscences changes at a particular time - we in Ireland don't have an interest in applying things retrospectively. So it will often be that a certain rule applies up to a date and then a different rule afterwards.. Take rear seatbelts as an example, if you bring an early 1970's car in for NCT it can't fail for no rear seatbelts as they weren't compulsary at the time of manufacture, its only a fail on cars made after the date that seatbelts were made compulsary in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭larrymiller


    Well lads, can any of yee tell me how to get the trailer license automatically within the nest 2 weeks? (for the owl fella :))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭countryjimbo


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    If you did the driving test before 1989 and don't have a trailer licence you have 2 weeks to get it on your licence without doing a test.

    Thanks for the heads up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭brian_t


    Well lads, can any of yee tell me how to get the trailer license automatically within the nest 2 weeks? (for the owl fella :))

    I put the link in my post above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    brian_t wrote: »

    This is going to be the new last minute tax your tractor panic all over again, very little publicity about this


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭The Nutty M


    dharn wrote: »
    very little publicity about this

    True very little about it but that's the Irish way

    Also there is very little about Gosafe vans sending out fines for speeding jeeps/cars and trailers.Keep her under 80km/h if you come across them or risk the envelope in the door :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭Rho b


    I am going to be sitting my C theory test in a few weeks. Do you have to have official driving lessons from a registered driving instructor before you have your driving test, the same way as a car license.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    Rho b wrote: »
    I am going to be sitting my C theory test in a few weeks. Do you have to have official driving lessons from a registered driving instructor before you have your driving test, the same way as a car license.
    im sure you have to show a certain amount of lessons anyways


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭mayota


    Rho b wrote: »
    I am going to be sitting my C theory test in a few weeks. Do you have to have official driving lessons from a registered driving instructor before you have your driving test, the same way as a car license.

    No. But no harm to go to an instructor for tips and the test route. You should do the CPC theorys after you pass the C theory and do the CPC practical with your driving test. Good luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭Rho b


    Thanks, I have access to a lorry and the owner is willing to put me on the insurance if I get my theory test. I can get some experience driving with him.
    Will see how the theory test goes first.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    Rho b wrote: »
    Thanks, I have access to a lorry and the owner is willing to put me on the insurance if I get my theory test. I can get some experience driving with him.
    Will see how the theory test goes first.
    best of luck with it lassie


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭Rho b


    Thanks again although its actually lassie :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    Rho b wrote: »
    Thanks again although its actually lassie :)
    Sorted :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭DieselPowered


    gtx wrote: »
    thanks for that do u know will your (Artiic) license cover a rigid an trailer?

    Looks like things have changed under the new RSA categories, while the Artic Licence and the Rigid+Trailer licence are two different categories, the Artic now covers a Rigid+Trailer where as in the past this was not the case and they treated a Rigid + (dolly) Trailer as needing different training.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭Rho b


    Looks like things have changed under the new RSA categories, while the Artic Licence and the Rigid+Trailer licence are two different categories, the Artic now covers a Rigid+Trailer where as in the past this was not the case and they treated a Rigid + (dolly) Trailer as needing different training.
    When you say Rigid+Trailer was that not for C1+E which only covers up to 12 ton combined, as opposed to C+E artic or rigid and drag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭DieselPowered


    Rho b wrote: »
    When you say Rigid+Trailer was that not for C1+E which only covers up to 12 ton combined, as opposed to C+E artic or rigid and drag.


    As it stands today (new RSA categories)

    C1 = Rigid,Small
    C = Rigid
    C1E = Rigid+Trailer

    CE = Artic


    CE=Combination of drawing vehicles in category C and trailer where the MAM1 of the trailer is greater than 750 kg.


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