''Ryanair announces 5 new routes from Cork'' - Not!

charliehotel

Ryanair announces five new routes from Cork airport

Four of the routes are to the Polish cities of Warsaw, Gdansk, Wroclaw and Krakow. The fifth new destination is to the Lithuanian capital Vilnius...

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0802/ryanair-announces-five-new-routes-from-cork-business.html


For consumers there really is only 1 new route from Cork in today's announcement - Krakow.

Warsaw, Gdansk, Wroclaw and Vilnius are already served by Wizz Air. I find this type of (almost always FR) announcement so annoying.

Of course one can say that these are ''5 new Ryanair routes from Cork'', but the headline explicitly says ''5 new routes from Cork''. Aggh :mad:

JJLongford

I notice that Ryanair has acknowledged Wizz's decision to go head to head on some routes out of Warsaw I think. If I'm correct Ryanair called them 'idiots' and have reduced seats on particular routes to €0.35 each way. I'd say their Cork routes are part and package of their strategy to compete with Wizz now...

L1011

Ryanair attempting to push out Wizz like they pushed out Buzz and Easyjet, nothing more.

devnull

All very well but Wizz are not the most ethical of Airlines themselves. For well over a year they were charging 10 euro "government tax" on flights from Cork despite the fact that it was reduced to 3 euro a long time ago now which is a scandal in itself, I wonder if they paid the extra seven euro to the Government or they just deliberately misled their passengers to try and earn a few bucks.

They also charge 8 euro per sector for a VISA card, and only offer you the lowest prices if you pay 29.99 to join their club and generally have larger and more fees than Ryanair and until very recently were charging very high fares on their Cork to Poland routes which were about twice the price as the Ryanair prices from Dublin, yet suddenly today I notice Wizz have reduced the prices of their flights to something more sensible. They are also now trialing charging for hand luggage.

This can only be good for consumers in the long run.

castie

devnull wrote: »

All very well but Wizz are not the most ethical of Airlines themselves. For well over a year they were charging 10 euro "government tax" on flights from Cork despite the fact that it was reduced to 3 euro a long time ago now which is a scandal in itself, I wonder if they paid the extra seven euro to the Government or they just deliberately misled their passengers to try and earn a few bucks.

They also charge 8 euro per sector for a VISA card, and only offer you the lowest prices if you pay 29.99 to join their club and generally have larger and more fees than Ryanair and until very recently were charging very high fares on their Cork to Poland routes which were about twice the price as the Ryanair prices from Dublin, yet suddenly today I notice Wizz have reduced the prices of their flights to something more sensible. They are also now trialing charging for hand luggage.

This can only be good for consumers in the long run.

Turns out really smart from Wizz then as everyone now has to pay the amount different from 10.

the beerhunter

charliehotel wrote: »

Of course one can say that these are ''5 new Ryanair routes from Cork'', but the headline explicitly says ''5 new routes from Cork''. Aggh :mad:

that's a bit of a daft non-point. ryanair are hardly going to be announcing routes for someone else, are they?

Cessna_Pilot

Don't worry OP seems to have a chip on his shoulder against a massively successful IRISH company

roundymac

MYOB wrote: »

Ryanair attempting to push out Wizz like they pushed out Buzz and Easyjet, nothing more.

In the long term this won't be good for Cork, once Wizz go Ryanair will start demanding reduced landing charges, then when they don't get them they'll up and leave with the warning that they will return if anyone else operates these routes.

charliehotel

the beerhunter wrote: »

that's a bit of a daft non-point. ryanair are hardly going to be announcing routes for someone else, are they?

My point was that 4 of these 'new routes' from Cork already exist. ie. they are not new

charliehotel

Cessna_Pilot wrote: »

Don't worry OP seems to have a chip on his shoulder against a massively successful IRISH company

I'm more pro-EI than anti-FR. It's common knowledge that FR has been an outstanding commercial success.

Turbine

roundymac wrote: »

In the long term this won't be good for Cork, once Wizz go Ryanair will start demanding reduced landing charges, then when they don't get them they'll up and leave with the warning that they will return if anyone else operates these routes.

Well if you're to believe what you read on other forums, Wizz Air brought this on themselves when they began recruiting staff from Ryanair management with the sole aim of starting a price war with Ryanair. This all started when Wizz Air began competing directly with Ryanair on certain routes to London, then it escalated when they launched a rake of new routes from the new Warsaw Modlin airport in direct competition with Ryanair. Ryanair's response has been to reduce all fares to 35c, and now they're launching all these new routes in direct competition with Wizz Air.

So this is much bigger than just driving them out of Cork.

kub

charliehotel wrote: »

Ryanair announces five new routes from Cork airport

Four of the routes are to the Polish cities of Warsaw, Gdansk, Wroclaw and Krakow. The fifth new destination is to the Lithuanian capital Vilnius...

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0802/ryanair-announces-five-new-routes-from-cork-business.html


For consumers there really is only 1 new route from Cork in today's announcement - Krakow.

Warsaw, Gdansk, Wroclaw and Vilnius are already served by Wizz Air. I find this type of (almost always FR) announcement so annoying.

Of course one can say that these are ''5 new Ryanair routes from Cork'', but the headline explicitly says ''5 new routes from Cork''. Aggh :mad:

So does that mean that Ryanair will be charged landing fees etc for the 4 routes which Wizz currently operate on and will get a deal on the 1 new route?

Turbine

kub wrote: »

So does that mean that Ryanair will be charged landing fees etc for the 4 routes which Wizz currently operate on and will get a deal on the 1 new route?

Yes.

kub

Turbine wrote: »

Yes.

Good news for Cork Airport so, in the short term that is.

Zyox

Didn't think Ryanair were on for direct competition with Wizzair seeing as Bonderman has mutual interest in both?

roundymac

I was talking to some of the Poles working with me this morning, almost to a man/woman not a bit impressed with Ryanair coming on the scene. Have no trust in Ryanair at all and will only fly with them as a last resort. Almost all have had bad expeirences with Ryanair in the past.

Turbine

Good for them.

Stinicker

Turbine wrote: »

Ryanair's response has been to reduce all fares to 35c

Where are these fares? I've never been to Poland but for 35c I'd go for a weekend to see what all the fuss at the Euros was all about.

IngazZagni

The war between Wizz and Ryanair is heating up everywhere now. In the short term this will be good for pax but I think bad in the long run as Wizz will probably lose the fight, move out of Ireland and then a short while after Ryanair will reduce/cancel the routes blaming the airport for failing to agree to Ryanair's new "growth plan". We've seen it all before.