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The Media Created Myth Of Libya the "success story"

  • 01-08-2012 1:49am
    #1
    Brown Bomber
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    I came across this video quite by chance. It is of post-Gadaffi Libya i.e NATO-NTC-Al Qaeda alliance controlled.

    It's not for the faint of heart so watch at your own discretion. It shows black prisoners of the rebels caged up IN A ZOO. They are being forced to eat the new Libyan flag at gunpoint.



    Tawergha, once a village of about 40,000 mostly black Libyans is now a ghost town. It has been ethnically cleansed during NATO's humanitarian war. NATO bombing raids denied Tawergans the opportunity to defends themselves against NATO's allies, the Misrata Brigade, who have since attacked the defenseless Tawerghans in their refugee camps.

    NATO's terrorist criminals have all been given total immunity from any and all of their crimes by the NATO puppets the NTC. They will literally get away with murder.

    Now I could be wrong but I don't believe this shocking video was broadcast on mainstream news programmes. I want to ask why. Especially given the wall to wall coverage of Gadaffi's supposed crimes in the build up to the war.


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  • #2
    Chazz Michael Michaels
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    I Googled for about 30 seconds and I found:

    But things are never that simple. The US found a way to intervene in the revolution in Libya by forging an alliance with former regime elements to hijack the uprising, and piloting its allies to power. The racist violence that followed, with the ethnic cleansing of black Libyans and migrants, was a terrible conclusion to a promising uprising.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/26/antiwar-left-syria-uprising


    Lazy, lazy, lazy.


  • #3
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »
    I Googled for about 30 seconds and I found:

    But things are never that simple. The US found a way to intervene in the revolution in Libya by forging an alliance with former regime elements to hijack the uprising, and piloting its allies to power. The racist violence that followed, with the ethnic cleansing of black Libyans and migrants, was a terrible conclusion to a promising uprising.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/26/antiwar-left-syria-uprising


    Lazy, lazy, lazy.

    What did you google? Why? And what relevance does it have to my post???


  • #4
    Chazz Michael Michaels
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »
    I Googled for about 30 seconds and I found:

    But things are never that simple. The US found a way to intervene in the revolution in Libya by forging an alliance with former regime elements to hijack the uprising, and piloting its allies to power. The racist violence that followed, with the ethnic cleansing of black Libyans and migrants, was a terrible conclusion to a promising uprising.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/26/antiwar-left-syria-uprising


    Lazy, lazy, lazy.

    What did you google? Why? And what relevance does it have to my post???

    Just because Sky News didn't report this event (if that is even true) doesn't mean the world's media ignored it. You people are so obsessed with videos...


  • #5
    studiorat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    The myth is that it's being portrayed as a success story at all.


  • #6
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »
    Just because Sky News didn't report this event (if that is even true) doesn't mean the world's media ignored it. You people are so obsessed with videos...
    Could you try to be more precise? You are not making any sense. Your response bares no relation to the questions I asked of you.


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  • #7
    Brown Bomber
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    studiorat wrote: »
    The myth is that it's being portrayed as a success story at all.
    Okay. I'm open to that. Do explain.


  • #8
    Chazz Michael Michaels
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »
    Just because Sky News didn't report this event (if that is even true) doesn't mean the world's media ignored it. You people are so obsessed with videos...
    Could you try to be more precise? You are not making any sense. Your response bares no relation to the questions I asked of you.

    Do I have to continuously answer your questions because you don't understand things? No. I don't.


  • #9
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »
    Do I have to continuously answer your questions because you don't understand things? No. I don't.
    Well yes, as it's a discussion forum...y'know`?

    If your not interested in discussion can I suggest you type your random, irrelevant points into notepad instead?


  • #10
    Pablo Sanchez
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Pablo Sanchez


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    Well yes, as it's a discussion forum...y'know`?

    If your not interested in discussion can I suggest you type your random, irrelevant points into notepad instead?

    How is it irrelevant? You asked why your video was not shown on Sky news etc, and it was pointed out to you that what your trying to highlight is indeed being reported on the 'mainstream' media. Your very rude.


  • #11
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,749 ✭✭✭weisses


    Pablo Sanchez wrote: »
    How is it irrelevant? You asked why your video was not shown on Sky news etc, and it was pointed out to you that what your trying to highlight is indeed being reported on the 'mainstream' media. Your very rude.


    Where in this thread did he show that it was on the mainstream media (other then saying it was)?? maybe i missed something.


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  • #12
    Pablo Sanchez
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Pablo Sanchez


    Well the link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/26/antiwar-left-syria-uprising leads one to http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/30/libya-spectacular-revolution-disgraced-racism which itself refers to pieces in the Indpendent and Channel 4, which is all mainstream media right?


  • #13
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Pablo Sanchez wrote: »
    How is it irrelevant? You asked why your video was not shown on Sky news etc, and it was pointed out to you that what your trying to highlight is indeed being reported on the 'mainstream' media. Your very rude.
    You are very wrong. Nowhere in this thread has it been pointed out where that video in the OP was reported.


  • #14
    Pablo Sanchez
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Pablo Sanchez


    Daily Mail http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2109327/Torture-video-shows-black-Africans-locked-zoo-cage-force-fed-flags-Libyan-rebels.html
    Russia Today: http://www.rt.com/news/libya-rebels-torture-africans-679/comments/page-6/


  • #15
    studiorat
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    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    I came across this video quite by chance. It is of post-Gadaffi Libya i.e NATO-NTC-Al Qaeda alliance controlled.

    NATO-NTC-Al Qaeda? WTF?

    The Sunday Telegraph on Sunday Sept 11th 2011 reported the town had been the target of ethnic cleansing on the part of the Misrata Brigade, they didn't show the video because it's a newspaper. Is that mainstream enough?

    It's been on the agenda of HRW, the UN and countless Libyan human rights groups since at least December last year.

    So what's the conspiracy? NATO and Al Qaeda have set up shop together? Or the mainstream media except for The Daily Mail are trying to silence something or other? Or a little bit of everything I suppose?

    This looks to me it looks like a poorly researched rant. I expected better...


  • #16
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Pablo Sanchez wrote: »
    Daily Mail http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2109327/Torture-video-shows-black-Africans-locked-zoo-cage-force-fed-flags-Libyan-rebels.html
    Russia Today: http://www.rt.com/news/libya-rebels-torture-africans-679/comments/page-6/

    Okay, thanks for that.

    For obvious reasons Russia today doesn't count but the Daily Mail article certainly covers what I was asking despite not actually showing the video and insisting on calling them sub-saharan Africans, the implication being that they may be mercenaries.

    I'm afraid an isolated example doesn't disprove what I am saying i.e. the overriding official narrative of the triumph of good over evil in Libya, mission accomplished and the fairytale ending.

    Compare the coverage and response (or lack thereof) of political leaders to the vagrant violations of the Geneva conventions above to the intense coverage of the so-called rape epidemic in Libya carried out by Libyan soliders.


  • #17
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    studiorat wrote: »
    NATO-NTC-Al Qaeda? WTF?
    Do you deny it? If so, on what basis?

    The Sunday Telegraph on Sunday Sept 11th 2011 reported the town had been the target of ethnic cleansing on the part of the Misrata Brigade, they didn't show the video because it's a newspaper. Is that mainstream enough? [/QUOTE]
    There is an enormous difference between "a target of ethnic cleansing" and actual ethnic cleansing. Which was it?

    Also, newspapers can and very often do publish videos online. Did they?
    studiorat wrote: »
    It's been on the agenda of HRW, the UN and countless Libyan human rights groups since at least December last year.
    I'm not doubting the integrity of Human Rights Orgs. In fact they are the best source of information.


  • #18
    studiorat
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    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    There is an enormous difference between "a target of ethnic cleansing" and actual ethnic cleansing. Which was it?

    :rolleyes: I said the target. If you are going to argue poxy semantics you could at least read the post a little more carefully.

    Here : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8754375/Gaddafis-ghost-town-after-the-loyalists-retreat.html

    Read the article and see can you figure it out for yourself.


  • #19
    studiorat
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    Morning! Assuming this is a discussion on media coverage perhaps the OP care to comment on the amount of media coverage given to Tawergha compared to perhaps the amount of media coverage given to the Abu Salim Prison massacre at the time. When 1,200 prisoners were murdered. Which the Gadaffi government only admitted to 5 years later in 2001.

    How for example is the coverage between the two different? Who is providing it? etc.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/human-rights-watch/libya-abu-salim-prison-ma_b_1630051.html


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