Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Quality wheelset at good price

  • 31-07-2012 8:19pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭


    Looking for a little help with wheelsets.
    Have a pair of Shimano R500 on bike, and the quality isn't great. Have about 3,000 km on them since April and have had to replace a few spokes front and back.

    May spare back wheel an older r500 also, about 4 years old and they have been bullet proof.

    For reasonable money could lads recommend a good value wheelset with prioity on reliability rather than weight or speed. Don't race, just look to do 7-8 long sportives a year with a little very light touring, with training spins etc.

    Weigh 13st on New Years Eve so that would be max load!


Comments

  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Mavic Aksiums from CSS, special offer every couple of weeks for 169euro, no guarantees but great wheels for me.

    That said I have r500s on my fixed and they have been perfect for 2 or 3 years despite being bet into Dublins **** back roads and we are approximately the same weight, are you truing them and replacing spokes yourself or are you going to an LBS?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    Thanks for reply.

    If slightly out, true myself but if spoke snaps or badly off they go to LBS.

    Don't mind spending up to 300 for better reliability

    CramCycle wrote: »
    Mavic Aksiums from CSS, special offer every couple of weeks for 169euro, no guarantees but great wheels for me.

    That said I have r500s on my fixed and they have been perfect for 2 or 3 years despite being bet into Dublins **** back roads and we are approximately the same weight, are you truing them and replacing spokes yourself or are you going to an LBS?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭macnab


    Mavic Aksiums seem to be the favoured choice for cheap good value and dependable wheels, I have never used them though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,800 ✭✭✭C3PO


    While the Aksiums are a great wheel for training, I would suggest Hope Pro 3 Hubs laced to Mavic Open Pro rims as a worthwhile upgrade - a bit over budget though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,087 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    I've just ordered Fulcrum Racing 5's for €159 on bike24, they get good reviews as an all-rounder and have aero profile spokes.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Define a 'good price' - you can get Fulcrum 5s for around €200 delivered from Germany. Fulcrum 7s are about 150.

    I've 5s on two bikes and I've found them to be excellent - robust and fast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    200 for robust and face would fit my definition of "good price". Thank You
    Jawgap wrote: »
    Define a 'good price' - you can get Fulcrum 5s for around €200 delivered from Germany. Fulcrum 7s are about 150.

    I've 5s on two bikes and I've found them to be excellent - robust and fast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭Seaswimmer


    Mavic Open Pros, Ultegra Hubs, 36 DT Swiss spokes. Will last forever. Get them hand built. Plenty of people on here will recommend a good local wheelbuilder..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,087 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    They've gone back up to €179 now, but delivery was only €7.50 when I ordered with a cassette. Keep an eye on the site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭mp31


    Seaswimmer wrote: »
    Mavic Open Pros, Ultegra Hubs, 36 DT Swiss spokes. Will last forever. Get them hand built. Plenty of people on here will recommend a good local wheelbuilder..

    What do they weigh and how much do they cost?


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭letape


    Jawgap wrote: »

    I too would recommend wheels from the fulcrum range. Fulcrum 7s are a great wheel for the money!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Postit


    letape wrote: »
    Jawgap wrote: »

    I too would recommend wheels from the fulcrum range. Fulcrum 7s are a great wheel for the money!

    Are these the ones that make a loud ticking noise when freewheeling?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,838 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Postit wrote: »
    Are these the ones that make a loud ticking noise when freewheeling?

    Yep, though not that loud. I got a pair of 7s a few months back from Ribble and find them excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Postit


    Seaswimmer wrote: »
    Mavic Open Pros, Ultegra Hubs, 36 DT Swiss spokes. Will last forever. Get them hand built. Plenty of people on here will recommend a good local wheelbuilder..

    Would this be a better alternative to Fulcrum 7 or Mavic Askium?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭letape


    I have a number of wheels built with record hubs and open pro rims - while I like them (more for the retro feel and look of them) I don't see much advantage of them over pre built wheels like Fulcrums or various campagnolo models.

    Personally for an eveyday/commuter bike I'd prefer to buy the Fulcrum 7s. They are cheaper to buy and pretty much bomb proof. They're also lighter and stiffer than the handbuilt wheels will work out.

    The only benefit of the open pro/ultegra wheelset is that they are easy to true and replace spokes on when needed.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Postit wrote: »
    Are these the ones that make a loud ticking noise when freewheeling?

    That's what you want though, so everyone knows you've got a better or more expensive wheel, it was established that the louder the clicking, the more your wheel is worth as the noise is added to make sure people know you have the cash to splash.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭colm_gti


    CramCycle wrote: »
    That's what you want though, so everyone knows you've got a better or more expensive wheel, it was established that the louder the clicking, the more your wheel is worth as the noise is added to make sure people know you have the cash to splash.

    They also remind you to stop being lazy and pedal more!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭Seaswimmer


    letape wrote: »

    The only benefit of the open pro/ultegra wheelset is that they are easy to true and replace spokes on when needed.

    Ah but the Open Pros dont go out of true or break spokes. Thats my experience with them. I have 8000+ kms on my latest set and they are as true now as the day i got them..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭xbox gamer


    Rosebikes/Roseversand have the mentioned Open Pro, Ultegra, DT swiss wheels for sale here at €237. I believe they make them themselves. I don't have these or bought wheels from Rose but i thought i'd throw it in the mix.

    Might look here for tips to reduce the price a little.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭AaronB


    I bought a pair of the Fulcrum racing 5 two days ago off bike-discount for 133 since i have a vat no.
    Cant wait for them to arrive, but i can not use them until my new cassette arrives. I got a 12-28 to help with the amount of hills i have around here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Postit


    The Fulcrum 5 wheelset on bike-discount is a great price but that loud ticking noise irratates me and I'd rather have silence when freewheeling.

    Does anyone have the 2012 Fulcrum 5's? I was told they're quiet/normal. Is that true?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭route66


    xbox gamer wrote: »
    Rosebikes/Roseversand have the mentioned Open Pro, Ultegra, DT swiss wheels for sale here at €237. I believe they make them themselves. I don't have these or bought wheels from Rose but i thought i'd throw it in the mix.

    Might look here for tips to reduce the price a little.
    Broken link for the wheels - try this: www.roseversand.com/article/road-bike-wheel-set-28700-c-mavic-open-pro--shimano-ultegra/aid:401781

    I fitted my new Rose wheels (mentioned in "tips" thread above) last night; they are more basic than the ones mentioned here. I'm no expert, but they appear to be well made and very strong. Not lightweight, but I'm hoping they will last more than the 3-4K kms the original "Concept-SL" branded wheels on my Focus did. And at €137 (link), I can't complain.

    But should I have got the Fulcrum 7s as discussed in this thread: link :confused: About the same price from Merlin with shipping included ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 jtwoods


    Seaswimmer wrote: »
    Mavic Open Pros, Ultegra Hubs, 36 DT Swiss spokes. Will last forever. Get them hand built. Plenty of people on here will recommend a good local wheelbuilder..

    I have two sets of these (32S) and they are just brilliant - basically bombproof and still pretty light and very quick. I bought them as winter training wheels and now use them for everything. If you are in to deep-section-bling-bling wheels these may not suit you, but they definitely wont let you down.
    I got mine built by Parker International but good bike shops should have someone able to build them for you. Try and get a good recommendation though as there is a big difference between well built wheels and badly built ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Yi Harr


    Not sure if this is against forum rules but I have a set of Planet X Al30s for sale over here if you're interested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭mp31


    jtwoods wrote: »
    I have two sets of these (32S) and they are just brilliant - basically bombproof and still pretty light and very quick. I bought them as winter training wheels and now use them for everything. If you are in to deep-section-bling-bling wheels these may not suit you, but they definitely wont let you down.
    I got mine built by Parker International but good bike shops should have someone able to build them for you. Try and get a good recommendation though as there is a big difference between well built wheels and badly built ones.

    Don't suppose you could get the kitchen scales out and let us know what they weigh ...pls :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Andalucia


    AaronB,

    Keep us updated on how you find the fulcrum 5's, thinking I'll chance a set myself, very reasonable price, don't think I can justify the mavic cosmics for around 200euro extra


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭Surinam


    *Disclosure: I am a complete clueless newb*

    Would the Fulcrum 5's be compatible with sram apex? One of the websites linked only mentions shimano and the other mentions sram so I'm a bit confused.

    My bike came with a bog standard mavic cxp 22 wheelset and I think I'll have to replace them in time (awful reviews online and they seem relatively heavy).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,799 ✭✭✭cython


    Surinam wrote: »
    *Disclosure: I am a complete clueless newb*

    Would the Fulcrum 5's be compatible with sram apex? One of the websites linked only mentions shimano and the other mentions sram so I'm a bit confused.

    My bike came with a bog standard mavic cxp 22 wheelset and I think I'll have to replace them in time (awful reviews online and they seem relatively heavy).
    SRAM and Shimano use the same shape free hub body, so a wheel made for a Shimano cassette should take a SRAM one, and vice versa. You really just want to be careful not to buy a set for campag if you want to use with existing shimano or SRAM kit.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭letape


    mp31 wrote: »
    Don't suppose you could get the kitchen scales out and let us know what they weigh ...pls :p

    As an indication of weight, I have a set of Open Pro CDs built on campagnolo record hubs (current 11 speed ones) with DT Swiss competition spokes and they weigh 1,744 grams (918 + 826) without quick releases. Record hubs weigh 228 and 114.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭Surinam


    cython wrote: »
    SRAM and Shimano use the same shape free hub body, so a wheel made for a Shimano cassette should take a SRAM one, and vice versa. You really just want to be careful not to buy a set for campag if you want to use with existing shimano or SRAM kit.

    Thanks!

    Also, do all these wheelsets come with semi decent tyres or is it just the rims that are important? I ask because I was thinking of buying gatorskins or a pair of schwalbe ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭Plastik


    99.9999% of the time they don't come with any tyres/tubes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭AaronB


    Andalucia wrote: »
    AaronB,

    Keep us updated on how you find the fulcrum 5's, thinking I'll chance a set myself, very reasonable price, don't think I can justify the mavic cosmics for around 200euro extra


    Ya i got mine for 133 so you cant go wrong, but i im still abit too heavy for them i think. I emailed them to confirm but still no answer yet.

    I live with some nice bumpy roads, so they'll defo get a good testing and i will let you know how it goes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭mp31


    letape wrote: »
    As an indication of weight, I have a set of Open Pro CDs built on campagnolo record hubs (current 11 speed ones) with DT Swiss competition spokes and they weigh 1,744 grams (918 + 826) without quick releases. Record hubs weigh 228 and 114.

    Thanks for those figures letape.
    1,744 grams is approx 50gm less than a pair of Mavic Aksiums - I guess you pay more but also get a much more robust product.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,800 ✭✭✭C3PO


    Just picked up a new set of wheels from Expert Cycles in Rathfarnham. Hope Pro 3 Hubs, Sapim Spokes and Mavic Open Pro Rims. Should be a really reliable wheel with a nice bit of bling at a great price! And with the added advantage of being hand-built by the legend that is Robin Seymour .... 3 time Olympian and one of the best bike mechanics in the country!!

    IMG_0521.JPG


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭letape


    Very nice wheels C3PO - always good to buy at home when we can too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,087 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    Postit wrote: »
    The Fulcrum 5 wheelset on bike-discount is a great price but that loud ticking noise irratates me and I'd rather have silence when freewheeling.

    Does anyone have the 2012 Fulcrum 5's? I was told they're quiet/normal. Is that true?

    Got mine yesterday, put together this evening and just a spin up and down the road outside the house, they don't have the ticking noise that my 7's have. Taking them out for an hour in the morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭royrogers


    What about RS80's was thinking of upgrading to these, any opinions on these much appreciated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,502 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    royrogers wrote: »
    What about RS80's was thinking of upgrading to these, any opinions on these much appreciated.
    I was thinking about that set as well and would welcome any comments.


Advertisement