NAMA recycling?

rayjdav

Was looking at a report on TV the other day whereby a number of NAMA'd units were coming down. Some of these units were fitted out, kitchens/Sanitary ware doors etc etc.

Is there a facility within the legislation that these units could be cleared, legally;), before the dozer went in? I ask as there are people still building, mainly smaller extensions etc where the money is tighter and maybe the "boom style" finishes are not wanted, just plain old simple affordable finishes. These units, for certain items, would be ideal. Obviously certain items are no use, just scrap, which has a valuable price too.

It would be win win imo for all. NAMA would get a nominal return, recycler make profit and end user get "seconds" quality at more affordable cost. Mainstream manufacture may loose out but the wheel has turned. No? If not already there, why not or is this idea too simple and logical that in the Irish tradition it will be held up with Bull sh*t political red tape?

I put this here to discuss as it's where people building come to pick our brains, not AH or other?

muffler

I seen the news clip and I was a tad annoyed at the sheer waste of materials that could have been re-used. Doors, frames, architrave, skirtings, bathroom suites, kitchen units, sockets, switches, etc etc could all have been salvaged. the list is endless really but a line had to be drawn but I think they went arseways about it.

A lot of stuff, as mentioned, could have been used in house extensions or even garages/sheds and i thought it would have been more financially efficient to have offered the "contents" for sale at a figure of say €2000 - €3000 per unit. It would have generated enough finance to keep a couple of beds opened in local community hospitals or hospices.

What a bloody waste! :mad:

StillWaters

I know those places that sell reconditioned appliances have some NAMA stock. Bought a few myself. Could be just the salesman line, but the appliances hadnt been used, straight out of a show house.

martinn123

Saw the news clip, also and was amazed at the waste.
however in a follow on radio report over the weekend, comment was made about the cost of recovering items, labour, insurance, access to site, etc. etc, and conclusion was it's just not worth the cost.
Seems illogical, OK you don't want people swarming over the site, pulling out items,
anyway one comment caught my attention.

Along the lines of '' its impractical to re-use these items in a build, as the Architect would not sign off on it''

So what items if any would you be allowed/happy to use, windows, doors, electrical wiring, sockets, switches, timbers, slates, tiles, insulation,
and keep an Architect happy on certification, or was it a red herring.

Obviously kitchen items, bathroom ware, wardrobes and other fittings are OK

Thoughts.

DOCARCH

martinn123 wrote: »

however in a follow on radio report over the weekend, comment was made about the cost of recovering items, labour, insurance, access to site, etc. etc, and conclusion was it's just not worth the cost.

Bit of a Health & Safety nightmare! You could not just let any Joe in there pulling out bits and pieces.

I would sort of concur (with NAMA) that while it is a complete waste, it was probably impractical to recover much of the stuff. A single contrcator would probably have to be appointed (and probably paid) to salvage/recover materials and then there is not garuntee that anybody would actually want (to buy) the stuff.

I am working on a job at the moment where we demolished a pretty well maintained house which had a new boiler, heating pipe work, radiators, sanitaryware, and internal doors installed pior to being sold (and demolished) - despite trying, we could not get anybody to come in and salvage the good stuff and my clients were not looking for a penny for it! They just did not want to see it go to waste. All ended up in the skip.

I think the salvage stuff, like doors, architraves, skirting boards, switches, sockets, windows, etc., would only really suit the self builder? If a builder, under contrcat (or on any of my jobs!), turned up with salvaged items, I think he would be told by the client (or me)where to go! Fine if it was specified in the contract if the builder was to use new or salvaged items!